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Title: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 22, 2009, 10:35:37 PM
Has anyone come across a clear picture of the bird used on the year one T/A?

If so could I bother you to e-mail it to me at cmarson@vianet.ca

Thank-you
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: y88rick on January 22, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
i believe it is just the reg bird but in platinum isnt it?
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: transam dave on January 22, 2009, 10:45:49 PM
Heck no its all new for that car.Real sharp bird too.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: y88rick on January 22, 2009, 10:47:18 PM
i know i seen it hell i know i have a post card of it just cannot remember for the......ooooh ohhh yeah its an od looking bird thats right the factory one i like more duhhhh
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: P-Js_BLKBRRD on January 23, 2009, 01:33:07 AM
Doing a little web-crawlling this is the the best one I could find:

(http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/9136816+w100/0710phr_17_z+1977_pontiac_trans_am+year_one_bandit.jpg)(click to see a larger version) (http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/9136816/0710phr_17_z+1977_pontiac_trans_am+year_one_bandit.jpg)

It looks like there is a lot of flat black matte that goes forward from the trailing edge of the hood and wraps around the scoop.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 23, 2009, 07:52:08 AM
Hey thanks for lookin. It was the best I could come up with as well
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: dblhh on January 23, 2009, 08:11:17 AM
Check out these posts over at TAC:

http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=23445.0

http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=23575.0
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 23, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
OK that was cool!!...I don't say I'm jealous because I'm not. But envious perhaps. Seeing as how we're on the topic has anybody come across the headlight mods year one used? I can't seem to find it on their website.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: LOMILETA on January 23, 2009, 10:38:40 AM
The headlights are from an 88-98 Chevy Silverado truck.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 23, 2009, 10:50:33 AM
Really!!
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: LOMILETA on January 23, 2009, 10:55:39 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 23, 2009, 10:57:09 AM
very intersting. cool thanks
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on January 23, 2009, 11:50:07 AM
so I did digging and voila...The headlights I was searching for. I kinda expected them to cost more but their steap enough I guess.

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/IMPCWCCE12.htm

Figured I would post the link for anybody else that might be interested

Thanks LOMILETA for sending me in the right direction

Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: y88rick on January 23, 2009, 04:45:26 PM
you could also use other model composite set ups too such as 87-88 rwd cutlass with the euro front clip and many more if you really researched it. im sure they shine on the road much better than a sealed beam light.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: LOMILETA on January 23, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Actually the 87-88 Cutlass lights are to big,( height wise) they are about 3/4 of an inch taller than the truck lights.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: y88rick on January 23, 2009, 09:10:07 PM
really? so they wouldnt work? i figured they would since it uses virtually the same header panel as the other sealed beam cars i would have thought for sure thsi would be an easy find. i've considered it but building a y82 this leaves me with no options aside from factory unless its wheels that i can unbolt and put the stockers on it.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 05, 2009, 03:42:24 AM
Are you sure they are truck headlights? I thought yearone made these special for the BRE
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Justin on August 05, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
Are you sure they are truck headlights? I thought yearone made these special for the BRE

  I called year one and talked to the guy who made the custom headlight panel(forgot his name now) about a year and a half ago. He went to stillen.com and got them. They got the ones that have the blinker in the same headlight panel. These are not custom made lights for the T/A. He said it did take alot of fab work to make the grill insert fit right so there wasnt a huge gap around the light.

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?id=IPCWHEAD01&c=EX&year=1989&make=CHEVROLET&model=PICKUP
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 05, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
So making that bezel around the light wouldn't be too hard would it? Just take the bezel around the 79 headlight cut it and lengthen it?
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Justin on August 05, 2009, 01:29:54 PM
So making that bezel around the light wouldn't be too hard would it? Just take the bezel around the 79 headlight cut it and lengthen it?

  He said if you know how to use fiber glass then it wouldn't be too hard. he said the hardest part was the also the housing for the bracket. he said lots of cutting. Im going to wait until I have new grills so I can practice on my old ones. Could turn into a very expensive process
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 05, 2009, 07:18:13 PM
How would you cut it to mount them on the front?
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Justin on August 05, 2009, 11:10:58 PM
Well you have to take the grill insert out and the fiberglass housing behind the actual lights themselves has to be modded for the new bracket that comes on the new light. The grill insert gets the little skinny piece cut out and the rest gets sanded down to the bare plastic and then you have to fiberglass the hole completely shut then using a template cut the hole to the size you need for the new light. These are the directions he told me. If you think of an easier way to do it try it out. I have a broken 77 grill I may try it on. Really for me its a matter of getting everything else on my car working right so I can do this and not be wasting money on something I dont really need. Would be cool though.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: RainMan on August 06, 2009, 12:03:53 AM
  (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/GMC_Guy/YO.jpg)

I found  this look alike on ebay the other day . I really like the way YO redesigned the bird . I also like the smaller amount of gold they used in the grills .
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Justin on August 06, 2009, 10:13:20 AM
yeah that was was really sweet looking. I really like the bird too. Love the flat black.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Nexus on August 06, 2009, 12:45:11 PM
I do like that bird!!!

I want it done in black. Did Pheonix Graphics make the vinyl?

Nice work on the info Justin...thanks

Charlie
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 06, 2009, 12:49:05 PM
Yeah it would, so it's not a piece that goes around the headlights? It's just a bunch of fiberglass
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Justin on August 06, 2009, 11:31:50 PM
Quote
Nice work on the info Justin...thanks

  No Problem. I really had to fined out for myself when I first saw these cars so after a lot of phone calls I got ahold of the right people. He said wiring was easy though.

Yeah it would, so it's not a piece that goes around the headlights? It's just a bunch of fiberglass

 Not a bunch. Those arent new griils. From what the guy said they had to make them. Maybe they found an easier way of doing it after the first ten cars were made. He said everything was fabbed. Lots of man hours.
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 06, 2009, 11:34:18 PM
I do like that bird!!!

I want it done in black. Did Pheonix Graphics make the vinyl?

Nice work on the info Justin...thanks

Charlie

Do they sell those sticker birds?
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 06, 2009, 11:39:06 PM
This headlight looks like it has a piece that isnt fiberglassed around the light

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Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: SoonerTA on August 08, 2009, 04:43:22 PM
It looks like a molded piece of plactic that they made for the light to fit into.  Then the whole assembly get installed into the grill.  Just my opinion.  Your right it does not look like fiberglass.  

Also, I used to have those lights on my '98 Z71.  I remember paying a whole lot less for them.  Like in the range of $150.  I will try and find out where I got them from.  
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 08, 2009, 04:44:52 PM
That would be awesome thanks
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: BanditDave on August 08, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
Hey Guys,

I am working on a headlight set-up and Shaker set-up for these types of conversions. A machine/composites shop near me is going to do the injections for the plastic and hopefully it will look OEM when all is said and done. My '78 TA has a beefy LS1 conversion and it is being painted WRX World Rally Blue with Blue decals. It has BRE spoilers and TTIIs on her currently. Very pro-touring. I will keep everyone posted as she is going in for paint very soon.

Basically for the headlights I am going to try and make it so it is easy enough for ou guys to make the swap. Perhaps it will make the whole back fiberglass piece for a drop-in deal, but since I am using my own bread and this isn't cheap. Progress is slow. The shaker should be pretty sweet as well - I am trying to come up with a universal concept but since there are so many potential ways to mount a GEN 3 small block in an 2nd Gen Fbody a universal approach is kind of difficult.

Time will tell...

Thanks,
Dave
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: Anderson0741 on August 08, 2009, 09:50:10 PM
sounds good
Title: Re: Year one bandit T/A
Post by: hada76 on August 09, 2009, 12:20:08 AM
LMC has those lights but i prefer the sealed beams ...just as bright..and...they never cloud up