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Offline 242 Motorsports

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Turbo TA value?
« on: December 17, 2011, 09:34:15 PM »
If you had a Pace or Y84, would the value be lowered by it not having the turbo engine?

What about a stock resto with a 400 Poncho?

How important is having the turbo engine to a turbo car?

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 10:21:13 PM »
A Pace Car without the Turbo 301 is just another hacked up Pace Car.

No value what so ever.  IMHO

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 11:17:44 AM »
A Pace Car without the Turbo 301 is just another hacked up Pace Car.

No value what so ever.  IMHO

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 03:01:15 PM »
A Pace Car without the Turbo 301 is just another hacked up Pace Car.

No value what so ever.  IMHO

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 03:05:32 PM »
A car without it's orgininal engine or at least a year and production correct loses value.  But it all depends on what the "value" is.  S0mething is only worth what someone will pay.  There are alot of 57 Chevys on the auction block that seem to sell for a ton of cash.  So if it is worth more to someone then bonus for you.  However numbers matching cars tend to bring greater value
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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 03:15:49 PM »
That's one reason why if you decide to do a motor swap, a lot of people say to keep your stock parts just in case. That way if you ever do want to see it and you go back to original then you still have the value. Just my 2 cents
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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 03:17:52 PM »
That's one reason why if you decide to do a motor swap, a lot of people say to keep your stock parts just in case. That way if you ever do want to see it and you go back to original then you still have the value. Just my 2 cents

The problem is once you start all that you almost never go back to stock.  Plus most pros can tell if the motor has been out before.
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Offline 242 Motorsports

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 05:52:46 PM »
Okay.  Let me lean another direction.

Referencing an '80-'81 turbo car, probably a Y84.

Since the turbo 301 was such a dog, would the average buyer be more likely to want
the original turbo 301 or a non-original 400 in a $12k-$14K car?

 

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 06:03:37 PM »
Since the turbo 301 was such a dog?

The Turbo 301 was not a dog, with a little tweaking of the turbo wastegate, it has the same horsepower as the 400.  People just don't know how to work on them, until now.

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 11:52:39 PM »
I'll give you my example. Last year I found a 80 Pace car with its engine. I was looking for a 78 with Fisher t-tops but this car was so solid and original I couldn't pass it up. I had heard bad things about the turbo motor but I have been very happy with it and think there have been more rumors than experience with the engine. Anyway, I bought the car and have since decided I got a very good deal. The thing is though I would never even have looked at the car it it hadn't had a turbo motor for two reasons. The first is where I live in Oregon requires the car to pass emissions and it wouldn't have passed without the turbo motor. The second is the car just wouldn't have  interested me as much. I take quite a bit a pride in that my car is mostly original. I have since found that almost nothing has been changed. Even the shocks were original. I would only have been willing to pay 25% of what I did pay for a car that had had it's engine changed because I couldn't even drive it with a turbo motor and I needed to budget for an original engine and effort to install it plus the risk it still wouldn't pass emissions. Just my 2cents but I looked at many cars before I purchased one and found that originality gets the most money.

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 01:06:14 PM »
Okay.  Let me lean another direction.

Referencing an '80-'81 turbo car, probably a Y84.

Since the turbo 301 was such a dog, would the average buyer be more likely to want
the original turbo 301 or a non-original 400 in a $12k-$14K car?

 

A non original will probably not bring you 12 - 14K.  Not to mention the 80-81's are not the popular years for the TA.
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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 06:39:30 PM »
Are turbo parts hard to find should everything not be there??

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 07:36:23 PM »
Alot of the TTA's lost their original 301T's when their owners tried to race them and grenaded them- plenty also got swapped out for 400's and 455's. Admittedly, the TTA's worth the most are the stock unmolested cars w/ low miles. Modified TTA's with 400's and 455'scan be worth good money too, provided the owner kept the original engine. IMO it's a win-win situation since the larger engine is usually modded w/ power adders so you get to drive a 400+ hp TA w/o the liability and unreliability of a modded 301T.

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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 09:50:56 PM »
To echo 80tapacecar, the cars are misunderstood and most put them down based on hearsay, not experience. I have owned a couple and will own another someday. Even as builders, the 81 TA's should be recognized as a better base due to the fact that they had better shells than earlier cars due to advances in rust preventatives and better seam sealers. Most had 4 wheel disk brakes as well, another plus. As often happens the early technology was not allowed to reach it's full potential and as such, the cars got a bad rap. Check out 301garage to see what Turbos are capable of today, now that enthusiast have been able to collaborate over the Internet.  ;D as far as reliability, I have found them to be no less reliable than any other car as long as both were maintained equally. As with any engine, it must be maintained within it's guidelines. You cannot treat a turbo car the same as you would a 403, nor should you.
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Re: Turbo TA value?
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2011, 12:13:46 AM »
Are turbo parts hard to find should everything not be there??

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