I know what you are saying Rick. I just got finished scraping the R/S wheel tubs and there is a few spots that need attention. Also did the L/S wheel tub and there is a few more problems than I expected. Fortunately the L/S 1/4 that I am purchasing has both inner and outer wheel tubs so that side is going to be mint. The other side on the other hand has got me puzzled, I think that since it is only going to be a nice looking street/strip car I am going to do the best I can without removing the 1/4.