Hitman's Pontiac Trans Am Forum

Classifieds => Ebay Listings => Topic started by: bandit nz on September 08, 2007, 06:18:08 AM

Title: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: bandit nz on September 08, 2007, 06:18:08 AM
I sent this guy an email, I dont see any gold anywhere, no gold birds no gold dash, no gold steering wheel spokes.

What are your thoughts

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220148114683

Stu  
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: WarbirdTA on September 08, 2007, 10:18:48 AM
I see some really faded stripes around the car, gold bird on the steering wheel, and what looks like gold spokes on the steering wheel, and the most inportant thing, the invoice showing it as a Special Edition.
Maybe he added some pictures?

George  8)
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: 79 S E W72 on September 08, 2007, 03:24:47 PM
   I have to agree with warbird. I see the gold bird emblem and faded spokes. The phs is the clincher. I would say its real.
   The 403 SE are not nearly as rare as the W72, there were like 9,800 made as opposed to 1,107 of the 400 4spd.
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Hitman on September 08, 2007, 09:58:17 PM
Yep, I can see the faded stripes, the larger SE sail panel birds, the gold grilels up front, the gold bird on the steering wheel, the gold on the dash behind the missing RTS emblem, and of course the PHS documents.
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: merc64 on September 11, 2007, 10:13:32 PM
Well that model constitutes around 8% for the total production in that year.  Alot of people would consider that rare I suppose.  I can't blame him for listing it that way especially on a no reserve auctiion.
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: bandit nz on September 12, 2007, 06:22:29 AM
IMPORTANT TO NOTE:

In his defence, he did politley answer my email message, thanking me for my attention, he also posted the PHS document after I emailed him and told me had done so, since receiving my email.
He gave a good clear and detailed explanation of the car and why it was an SE.
He came across as an OK guy and having good knowledge of SE cars and Trans Ams in general.
Looks like I jumped the gun on this one, sorry team.  :P ::)

But I do agree not all that rare, although they are becoming sought after, as we all know.

Cheers
Guys  
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Hitman on September 12, 2007, 01:07:30 PM
Although it is not rare for an SE (403 automatic most common one built), it is rare for a 1979 SE which accounts for only 8% of total production.  So, it is rare for a 1979, but not rare (most common) for an SE.
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: merc64 on September 12, 2007, 02:51:47 PM
"Although it is not rare for an SE (403 automatic most common one built), it is rare for a 1979 SE which accounts for only 8% of total production.  So, it is rare for a 1979, but not rare (most common) for an SE."

Which was the point I was trying to make.  The seller was only using good marketing in the labeling of his car and I wouldn't exactly call him a liar or misleading.  I'm new to Trans Am's but have dealt with classic Fords for a long time, I thought they were a serious crowd but y'all are on top of your game too.  As a side note today I just bought my first T/A, an anniversary car and since it's the only one I got that makes it rare   :)  Look forward to getting to know all you guys.

Scott
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Rick on September 12, 2007, 05:10:49 PM
As a side note today I just bought my first T/A, an anniversary car and since it's the only one I got that makes it rare   :) 

Uh-oh!  You KNOW what that means! 8)

PICS!  We want PICS!

Post some up when you get them! :) :) ;)
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: milly on September 12, 2007, 09:52:43 PM
I didn't see the 8" gold snowflakes. Just plain old 7" gold snowflakes.  ;)
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: WarbirdTA on September 12, 2007, 11:29:12 PM
Not all Special Editions got WS6, so 7 inch snowflakes would/could be correct.
Also, that's a California car, says so on the invoice.

George  8)
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Prettybird81 on September 13, 2007, 11:22:51 AM
Either way... It's MINE!  Hahahahaha... Buahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: RENOVATIONS on September 13, 2007, 11:43:32 AM
Either way... It's MINE!  Hahahahaha... Buahahahahahaha!

You couldn't wait to announce that, could ya? :D :D
I don't know about your garage but your sig line is getting full! :o ;)
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: mastiso77 on September 13, 2007, 09:25:00 PM
Hammer......"No soup for you".  LMAO
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Prettybird81 on September 13, 2007, 09:27:22 PM
Hammer......"No soup for you".  LMAO

LOL... I love that episode!
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Rick on September 13, 2007, 09:45:18 PM
At the risk of re-offending, I don't think you came across as a jerk at all, Hammer!  You might not have stated what you meant in the clearest terms, but I took what you wrote the way I'm sure you intended it and I'm sure merc64 did too. ;)

But...to back to the important stuff...

Hey merc64 -- how 'bout some PICS of that new TA... :D  ??? :D
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: mastiso77 on September 13, 2007, 10:12:40 PM
Hammer......"No soup for you".  LMAO

LOL... I love that episode!

Ditto!
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: mastiso77 on September 13, 2007, 10:14:21 PM
Ditto to Rick too!
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: merc64 on September 14, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
To everyone,

Hammer sent me a PM expressing an apology which was very sincere and these days very uncommon.  I understood where his original post was coming from and did not take offense.  As long as none of you ever try to steal my beer then we should all be fine  :)

Hopefully I'll be picking up the car tonight or Saturday morning.  Like I stated this is my first T/A after many years of Fords.  I'm sure I'll have lots of questions as I find things to "fix" and look forward to everyone's help.  As soon as the car gets to its new home I'll post the pics in the proper thread.

Scott
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Hitman on September 14, 2007, 03:01:10 PM
Just don't leave your beer unattended and we won't steal it.  The one you have to watch out for anyway is Prettybird81.
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Maryland Bandit on September 14, 2007, 04:11:53 PM
Jeri, Nice score. That car has TONS of potential. Most of it is sun faded damage it looks like. New paint, weatherstripping and some interior and its going to be nice. Underhood would be FUN to detail. Ask me how I know. Nice Find!!! 
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: Hitman on September 14, 2007, 07:11:37 PM
Tom... Can I ask you how you know?  JK
Title: Re: Yet another SE pass off
Post by: RENOVATIONS on September 14, 2007, 07:55:12 PM
Tom... Can I ask you how you know?  JK

 :D :D That's privileged information... I think only Jeri can ask... ;) :D