Hitman's Pontiac Trans Am Forum
Trans Am Photos => Restoration Projects => Topic started by: KeePat on January 09, 2008, 08:13:25 PM
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Started the Disassembly on my 72 455 HO Trans Am with my son this past weekend. ;D I love this stuff!
More picture to come.
Pat
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Well, that's where it starts, best wishes and keep us posted with pics!
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cool take pics for when he gets older
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Yes...take lots of pics and save them for him, but show us in the meantime! :D :D
BTW -- you don't need another son do you? I've always wanted to wrench on true HO TA... :-\ :-\
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BTW -- you don't need another son do you? I've always wanted to wrench on true HO TA...
Sorry you look too tall so you can't fit in the trunk to remove bumper bolts, and if your arms are to fat to get to all the hard to get nuts & bolts I can't use you. I'm sure my son Kurt eat less then you! ;)
Thanks!
Pat
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It's about time you got that T/A!!!! Good luck. I know it will turn out as great as the Charger
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For those of you that don't know Pat. He has an amazing talent at making great looking, great perfoming cars. You guys really have to see his '68 Charger. it is the best looking car I have ever seen. Great attention to detail!!
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More parts removed from the TA! I have a date the soda blaster on the 28 of January. Motor & trans come out next weekend!
Pat
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Man the color combo on that car is great!!! Have fun with your resto!!!
I am sure you son will remember it forever.....Enjoy
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Removed the motor and trans thie past weekend, sent all the chrome out to Pauls Chrome in PA, some of the body parts are going to the soda blaster this week, and the car gets blasted next week!
Pat
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I could use that young man at my house!
Those snowflake wheels look great on that car.
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Good progress there! And your son seems to be thoroughly enjoying himself (I know *I* would)...:) :D :)
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Nice car and shop. Goodluck with the car.
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Nice electric hoist ;D
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great work done.
now me and my 12 and 11yo. boys have started ;D
funny how we have more patience with them, when doing stuff like this!
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I could use that young man at my house!
Those snowflake wheels look great on that car.
I'm sorry to say the snowflake have to go! They look great on mid & late year T/A, but not on 73 down! Just Me! I have a buddy with a 78 T/A that's buying them. I'm going with 17" Wheel Vintiques http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page78.html
Thanks!
Pat
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Any time Kurt can use tools and the hoist, he is on it! The only thing as good as work all day on a T/A with one of my sons is playing pick-up basketball with my other son! (he's not into working on cars just sports)
Thanks for your post!
Pat
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Just picked-up my T/A from the soda blaster. Very little rust but a alot of dents! Time for some old school metal bumping.
Pat
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Nice, looks like my car now. I will take dents over rust any day. Floors look great. Do you want to sell the snowflakes? Let me know. Your car is going to look great when it's done.
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I sold the wheels and tires to one of my car buddy who owns a 78 T/A, sorry!
Pat
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You have far too many toys. Remember about the camel, the eye of the needle and heaven? Well, perhaps you should take a vow of poverty.....and donate all your toys to me!
What a beautiful shop.....and a heck of a lot of great cars!
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Kurt and I pulled some more parts off the 455 HO and worked some dents out of the body this weekend!
Pat
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Oh Master, great work. Congratulations.
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I’m teaching myself old school metal bumping, slow but rewarding. Sorry the picture don’t show the work that well.
Pat
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Yeah, that's a tough art to get good at doing. Persistence is the key! :) ;)
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i nominate this guy for jerk of the year due to the fact that he makes all this look easy haha. car looks good so far, keep posting!!
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This is my 1st attempt at welding & rust repair, not counting the chicken wire and bondo job I did on my 66 GTO back in high school. And working out the dent in right front fender
Pat
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1st time fender bumping
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That looks pretty good! How long did it take you to do the entire cut/weld/grind job? :-\
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Rick, Thanks! it took about 3 hrs.
Pat
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Nice!!, I think Trans Ams and Chargers are the best muscle cars already, this is just reaffirming it...again.
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You know that chrome spray paint that looks like shi$/silver? well it looks like the right color inside the tail light housing!
Pat
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A lil' rattle can makes a big improvement.... ;D
You're starting to motivate even me ;)...very nice work.
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VERY NICE! I also have a 72 T/A I powder coated all of the subframe and components and aim glad I did. good luck to you and your son, this will last a lifetime! I am restoring a 79 T Top car for my 16 year old and he works on it with me, by any chance are you going to sell tose snowflakes? We are looking for a set for his 79.thanks and good luck :)
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I sold the wheels and tires to one of my car buddy who owns a 78 T/A, sorry!
Pat
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VERY NICE! I also have a 72 T/A I powder coated all of the subframe and components and aim glad I did. good luck to you and your son, this will last a lifetime! I am restoring a 79 T Top car for my 16 year old and he works on it with me, by any chance are you going to sell tose snowflakes? We are looking for a set for his 79.thanks and good luck :)
Sold! sorry. But I would love to see some picture of your 72 T/A Thanks!
Pat
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Cut the rust out and weld-in new steel on the drivers rear 1/4, starting to get the hang of this welding stuff??
Pat
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I'm with you on that...I love my welder!!
It gets better/easier every time ;D
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Nice, someday I just might try that myself :)
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Nice, someday I just might try that myself :)
Careful, Rich -- you've still got engine work to do! :D ;)
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Rich, you can practice on my 80 firebird :) I won't mind but I will be a little picky on the results.
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This is how I plan on working on the bottom of the car. It’s not a rotisserie but I think it will work!
Pat
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Pretty cool idea...nice wheel stand btw ;)
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Uhhh...Pat? I've got a question for you...
That's an I-beam running the span of your garage that the chainfall is hooked on, right? It looks to be a 6" beam. Is that used exclusively for shop purposes or does it carry the weight of space above the garage? I only ask because I wonder about the deflection loading on that beam with the weight of the shell added to it right in the middle. That's the point of maximum loading for the beam, and seeing as how you'll be *under* the shell I just had a little concern.
If the beam was installed exclusive for this purpose and doesn't carry any additional weight from overhead then that's a different matter.
Is there a reason you don't use the lift with jackstands to support the shell while working on it?
Not trying to be critical or contrary, I just look at the potential consequences of failures on about everything I do... :-\ :-\
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Rick,
No problem! The beam is 18” and when we built the garage the I-beam was over sized for this lift by are architect. And when Kurt and I work under the car we will have a tall sailboat jack-stand as a safety! The upstairs of the garage is setup to hold 12 Harleys. I built an elevator out of a boat lift to get the bikes upstairs. Only two bikes up there now and T/A body parts!
Thanks for your concern.
Pat
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Whew! Thanks for telling us, Pat! That is a *load* off my mind (pun in there :D ) I had a friend of mine get pinned under his RV when the jack slipped out and mashed his arm between the frame and some cribbing. Fortunately it was only his arm and not his head, although he suffered a lot of soft tissue damage and had some nerve problems that went of for quite a while. I just think "safety first" when I look at climbing under something. You've got it under control! ;)
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Rick,
The guy I bought the T/A from lost his brother when the mustang he was replacing the transmission in fell off the small jack-stand he was using. You all ways need a back-up! Safety first!
Thanks!
Pat
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Gee!
Now I want to see the Harleys! ;)
George 8)
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Auto Instruments restored the gauges from my T/A and they did a great job! Check out the before and after pics
Pat
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They look great, what did they charge and can you post there info. Your car is coming along.
Scott
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Scott,
They also did my Charger gauges and all the plastic chrome on the Charger dash. The only Plastic on the T/A they have re-chromed is the two small vents under the column and glovebox
Thanks!
Pat
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that is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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that is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey man how are you and your T/A & Charger? You going to spring Carlisle? If so let me know I'll buy you a drink.
Have a great weekend!
Pat
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that is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey man how are you and your T/A & Charger? You going to spring Carlisle? If so let me know I'll buy you a drink.
Have a great weekend!
Pat
Hey Pat, I'm not going to be able to go to Carlisle. I will be at the paris air show 23-27 of April. The T/A and Charger are doing fine. I'm glad that you finally got the T/A you were searching for. I really can't wait to see it done. You do some great work!
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Very nice, I will contact them today. Your cars are looking good.
Thanks
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Most of the underside of the T/A is cleaned, red oxide primer, and satin clear coated! Now it time for the rear aft :( Most of the work is fun, but this uder the car cleaning stuff suck!
Pat
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the bottm of your car will look better than the top of some cars!
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the bottm of your car will look better than the top of some cars!
Thanks! I'm shooting for the top of mine to look better.)
Pat
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you are setting the bar high
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That's pretty smart using the straps to pull and hold the body up. I'll have to remember that. Looking good Pat!
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Looks great, keep up the good work.
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thats it..... i'm not reading this post anymore! ;D
AWESOME job!
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The bottom of the T/A is completed! The aft end was a pain in the backside! Time to bolt the front end on to check panel alignment, going to the body shop in 3 weeks!
Pat
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Wow!
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Okay okay........ I lied, i'm still reading.............. your project is terrific! GREAT job! :o
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Okay okay........ I lied, i'm still reading.............. your project is terrific! GREAT job! :o
Thanks! Say tuned, I think I'm geting some of my engine parts this week from Butler Proformance and will post some pics!
Pat
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I'm jealous. Whatcha getting from Butler?? Serpentine system by chance?
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I'm jealous. Whatcha getting from Butler?? Serpentine system by chance?
Brian,
I’m restoring the car by the number, all original. All but the parts you can’t see! So I ordered a complete rotating assembly with forged crank, rods and custom piston. I hope to put the engine together while the car is at the body shop!
Thanks!
Pat
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Ahh I see. Reason I asked is that I bumped into the guys from March at Carlisle and they suggested hopping over to Butler to see their setup on a Pontiac. They were running a special of 15% off with free shipping - too bad I couldn't take advantage of that! According to the rep I was talking to they were coming out with a modular system like the chevies in 4-6 months and could add in the PS and AC pumps at extra cost.
Looking forward to seeing more of this build as I love this year car - love to find one one day that I could afford to buy/bring back!
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This is looking great, Pat! Thanks for keeping us updated! :) :)
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Rotating assembly from Butler showed up yesterday, Krut is looking forward to puting the motor back together!
Pat
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Received my completely restored brake booster & master cylinder From Bill in TN. His attention to detail and the correctness of the restoration is 1st class! All parts re-plated as original. I also installed most of the front end body part this past weekend. One step closer to the body shop!
Pat
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wow i really wish i had a 70-73 those look amazing and yours will too! keep up the great work
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Wow What a beautiful shop, Im jealous with envy. Keep up the good work.
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Eroc & 1fast78, Thank You!
On anther forum (PY) I found this great guy that some of you may know? His PY forum name is 70RAIII (Bill from TN) to date he has restored and plated many parts for my 72 T/A the latest is a complete disassembly of my hood latch. Note all parts removed re-plated and reassembled with new rivets. The rivets and reassemble was preformed by another great guy you may also know (Craig aka Norwood)
The work they do in one word is AWESOME!
Pat
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holy crap you are right that is total attention to detail....
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Nice looking work! :) :) And just when I was starting to feel better about removing the rustproofing overspray from mine... ::)
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Repaired some dents in the rear valance and power washed the car with Hold Tight (salt remover & rust inhibitor) Car goes to the body shop this week! ;D
Pat
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That's really looking excellent 8)
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Pat,
Looks well on the way!
How do you keep it from rusting when you are working on it?
Jeff
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Coming along looks great.
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Jeff,
After soda blasting the car and if it is stored (climate controlled)inside it will stay rust free for 2 or 3 months. Then after its power washed (with Hold Tight) its good for another two weeks!
Thanks All!
Pat
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Pat,
It is nice you can do that.
That was a poblem on my schedule and in my garage.
I had a floor pan. Ir got rusty in a few days with all the humidity.
Jeff
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Stop by the body shop today to check on the T/A and took a few pics!
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Looking good Pat..
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lookin good... as always!! cant wait to see see more Pat!!
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The inside of the doors & fenders got painted today! ;D Next week the jams get painted!
I hope you all have a great 4th!
Pat
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Wow Pat, I need to come over here more often....Very Nice
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Stop by the paint shop today and they had my car in the spray booth.
Pat
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That's some nice progress! :) :)
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It is just me, or am I the only one lusting after the shop he has............
Man that car is gonna be SWEET..........I mean REALLY sweet.
Gunner
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Rick & Gunner,
Thanks!
Pat
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One thing I noticed...........Thats a pretty hard bitten looking crew you got in there helping you ;D
Thats one thing I didn't really get the oppurtunity to do. My dad had neither the time nor the patience when I was that age to show me much of anything. I didn't really begin to interest him till I was about 16-17 years old. I worked with him a lot later in life, and it's one thing I really enjoyed, but when I was a kid, my dads idea of interaction with me was pretty much "Here's 5 bucks, go away" or "Why don't you go outside and play".
I guess that was just the way he was raised
Gunner
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Picked up my T/A from the body shop today so I could test fit the fender flairs and spoilers before they paint the car. It should go back for paint in 3 weeks!
Pat
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Okay Pat......It's been 3 weeks..... i've been waiting (somewhat) patiently....... is she at the paint booth?
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Brad,
I'm sorry to say she is still in the Garage, lots of litte things to do before it gets painted. But I got the motor back from the machine shop I'll post some pic.
Thanks!
Pat
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Here are some pictures of the 455 HO just back from the machine shop, I hope to start puting it back to gether in two weeks.
Pat
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She's coming together!! Good stuff partner.
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Man that's a good-looking block! :) :) ;)
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i see a challenger in the backround
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i see a challenger in the backround
Good eyes! Ordered it 12/3/07 and it came in 3 weeks ago! fun car!
Thanks!
Pat
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:o That's one fine looking driveway :o
(I think I hate you :D :D)
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I thought that was a Challenger in the first pic of the motor........ ever watch Tombstone? "It appears Mr Ringo is an educated man.......... now I really hate him!"........ ;D joking of course....... not to hijack the thread......... i guess there is no better person to ask than you....... it's been a big question of mine as to how the GT500 would compare to the Challenger....... in your expierence...... tough question..... but, whats got more? What do you like best?
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But.........But............But.............They're not all PONTIACS! :D
Just bring those Fords and Chryslers over to my place............I'll hide em for you.........Nobody has to know ;D
Gunner
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I thought that was a Challenger in the first pic of the motor........ ever watch Tombstone? "It appears Mr Ringo is an educated man.......... now I really hate him!"........ ;D joking of course....... not to hijack the thread......... i guess there is no better person to ask than you....... it's been a big question of mine as to how the GT500 would compare to the Challenger....... in your expierence...... tough question..... but, whats got more? What do you like best?
They are both awesome cars! I hope to take the Challenger to the track in the next week or two. As for comparing them it’s not apples and apples, the Challenger is 10” longer and over 300 lbs heavier. Now if the Shelby only had 425 hp and the Challenger had 500 hp it would be closer. The Challenger is more like a midsize car (like a original GTO) as apposed to the Shelby which is more like the original pony-cars (Firebirds, Cudas, & Mustangs) It look like the new Camaro is only 2” longer then the Shelby and about the same weight. Now if they ever bring back the Trans Am I going to have to add on to the garage
Thanks!
Pat
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Just bring those Fords and Chryslers over to my place............I'll hide em for you.........Nobody has to know
Gunner
Thanks! I may take you up on that offer! ;)
Pat
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Here are some before and after pictures of my air conditioning case. The new evaporator is still on back order.
Pat
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Are you clear-coating the assembly to keep it clean? ???
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Are you clear-coating the assembly to keep it clean? ???
Yes! I used a satin clear.
Thanks!
Pat
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Lookin good Pat, lookin good!
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Lookin good Pat, lookin good!
Thanks! One day my car will be on all 4 wheels and on the road like yours!
Pat
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as usual..... looks great!!
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<------------------jealous :'(
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<------------------jealous :'(
Hey John, How are you? I hope all is well with you, and your T/A, & Charger!
Pat
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Kurt & I assembled the pistons and rods and fit all the rings for the 455 today. Filed the top to .022 and the 2nd ring at .018 Kurt’s little fingers did a great job with the spiro-loxs on the connecting rod pins. We will set the crank tomorrow night.
Pat
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That's some nice-looking hardware! Are you willing to rent out your son for contract assembly work? ??? :D :D
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Rick,
Sorry got to keep him working around the house as to get my moneys worth for the college education I’ll be paying for! :)
We installed the crank and pistons & rods tonight!
Thanks!
Pat
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Very nice Pat, you can feel the excitement in the air waiting for that rumble of 455 cubic inches!
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Pat,
Its awesome your getting your son involved in this project so much. I only have a twelve year old daughter, and she has no interest in cars. :(
Great work, your pictures are great.
Wayne
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Wayne,
That’s the best part about this project is the time that Kurt & I work together on it! Keep trying to work with your daughter she/you will find something that she likes about cars!
Thanks!
Pat
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pics look great!......... i'm as excited as you! ;D
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Haven't stopped in for quite some time..........
Looks like I should have...........project is looking AWESOME
And anytime you need me to hide your other rolling stock, just let me know ;)
Gunner
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Thanks to all! She is painted and will get buff out next week. I hope to get it home by Friday?
Pat
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Pat the car looks great!! Glad your son is helping out, sounds like he is doing well with this project.
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Hi Pat! I just read this thread from start to finsih...you are doing an amazing job! I can't wait to see the rest!
Bill
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Thanks! Bill & Conrad.
Here are some pictures of the T/A back from the paint shop. I hope to take the frame back off next week. I think its time to order some wheels & tires!
Pat
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Nice job Pat, looks great.
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Drool!!! Looks great!!! ;D
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yup....... just what i thought......... awesome! ;D
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I am envious Pat, that thing is sharp buddy!!
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I really hate some of you guys! lol That car is so sweet, it's sick! Can't wait to see it done.
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Thanks for the kind comments.
I’ve been think about going on the Hot Rod Power Tour for years. So this year I stop thinking about it and register my son Kurt & myself. It starts June 6th in Madison Wisconsin and ends up in Bristol Tennessee on the 12th . With stops in Racine WI, South Bend IN, Warren MI, Dayton OH, and Somerset KY along the way. It should be about 2,400 mile round trip with only one long leg (850 mile) Annapolis to Madison WI.
So it looks like I need to get going on this T/A! I only have 5 months.
Pat
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sounds fun
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If you do the power tour maybe I will come up to Madison and make the trip over to Racine and then down to Chicago. I bet we could get a few T/As for this one....
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If you do the power tour maybe I will come up to Madison and make the trip over to Racine and then down to Chicago. I bet we could get a few T/As for this one....
That sounds great! See you in June.
Pat
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I bought my Trans Am a year ago this past December 27th and like most thing, they always take longer then we estimate. I’m still shooting to complete the car by spring, but mid summer is starting sink-in. As for the HR Power Tour I have the 68 Charger as a back-up car if the T/A is not complete
Anyway I finished the steering column and the frame is going to the paint shop tomorrow!
Pat
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Still, perking right along and looking VERY good! :) :) ;)
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The project still looks great! I love seeing the picture with the dashboard off....not often you get to see a vehicle like that!
Bill
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Started the Disassembly on my 72 455 HO Trans Am with my son this past weekend. ;D I love this stuff!
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That's one of the best thing that a man can ask for in his life! Good luck with the project!
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This is an awesome thread, I'm new to the site and really enjoyed reading whole thing from the start. I just bought a 73 Firebird, I love the body style.
Great work on yours so far!
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Looking sweet.
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Looks like you are doing a fantastic job :o, that's going to be one beautiful Trans Am. I wish I had the room to attempt something like that. :D Looking forward to seeing more pictures.
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This is an awesome thread, I'm new to the site and really enjoyed reading whole thing from the start. I just bought a 73 Firebird, I love the body style.
Great work on yours so far!
Welcome! and congrats on your 73 Firebird! I,ll look forward to seeing some pic of your car.
Thanks!
Pat
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Got a few things mounted on the fire-wall this past weekend. I hope to get the sub-frame back on two wheels next week!
Pat
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great progress your making.... keep up the good work
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again and again and again i find myself giving you props on your progress.... OUTSTANDING job pat! one word......... SHOWROOM
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Looks great Pat.. I had forgot about them having a POA valve that year, I think '72 was the final year for that if I remember correctly.
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this is a car to be very proud of. I am looking forward to this car slapping the faces of many award ceremonies when done. I am impressed with the lengths of to the tee stock restoration your doing with your 72 it is amazing. I can only hope to stay that focused on my y82 I really really hope that i can. I may be pm'ing you from time to time for moral support as to how you stay so focused and yet nothing but the best of efforts and quality are really showing! OUTSTANDING!
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this is a car to be very proud of. I am looking forward to this car slapping the faces of many award ceremonies when done. I am impressed with the lengths of to the tee stock restoration your doing with your 72 it is amazing. I can only hope to stay that focused on my y82 I really really hope that i can. I may be pm'ing you from time to time for moral support as to how you stay so focused and yet nothing but the best of efforts and quality are really showing! OUTSTANDING!
Hey Man, Thanks and anytime you need some moral support just PM me.
Good luck with your Y82
Pat
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Pat...OUTSTANDING job...attention to details...IT'S PERFECT... ;) ;) ;)
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The front frame is just about ready for the motor & trans! Now if I could just find the right color paint for the motor???
Pat
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It's looking very good! Are you having trouble finding out what color the engine paint should have been, or in locating the color you're looking for? ???
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your car is nothing short of amazing. i have always bought the correct pontiac blue from napa.
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amazing as awalys
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Rick,
I’m having trouble with both, as I’m sure you know 71 & 72 engine color is different then other years. Classic Industries offers a color they call teal that they say is for 71 & 72 but it’s out of stock and they are having OER make new paint for them???
Thanks to all and their kind comments!
Pat
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it is a hard paint to come by though i know napa carries it. you may get a guy who knows what he's talking about or may also want to take a look at their stock on the shelf one day. i can check with my uncle to see if he has a can left around to get you their pairt number. we had some troubles finding it as well when we needed it.
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Rick,
I’m having trouble with both, as I’m sure you know 71 & 72 engine color is different then other years. Classic Industries offers a color they call teal that they say is for 71 & 72 but it’s out of stock and they are having OER make new paint for them???
Thanks to all and their kind comments!
Pat
You might try here also Pat
http://www.hirschauto.com/
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it is a hard paint to come by though i know napa carries it. you may get a guy who knows what he's talking about or may also want to take a look at their stock on the shelf one day. i can check with my uncle to see if he has a can left around to get you their pairt number. we had some troubles finding it as well when we needed it.
I'll check with my local NAPA. Please pass along any part # you may find.
Thank You!
Pat
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Looking fantastic Pat!
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Looking fantastic Pat!
Thanks Rich, It great to hear you have your motor running Congrats!
Pat
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New guy here, I found this site last week and it is the best move I made in 43 years. I just read this thread form start to finish (so far) and found myself glued. Pat...your one amazing dude! You have just motivated me. I cant wait to see the end results. I just want to say THANKS for letting us enjoy this with you. I just picked up a 76 455 and am just getting started....
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Joe,
First off welcome to the site and thank you for the kind words. Congrats and good luck with your T/A, I look forward to seeing some of your progress pictures!
Pat
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Looks really great! Thanks for posting all the progress. Makes me want to go out and work on mine.(oops, it's midnight) The pic of your interior really blew me away. Great to see your son involved.
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Restore my drive shaft and unitized distributor last week. The distributor tested out good on the bench I hope it works well in the car? I still like to get another set of wires just can't find any.
Pat
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Unreal job!...... piece by piece....... eventually you're going to run out of things to replace!! ;D It's looking fantastic!
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man i wish my dad was like you. sheesh. he cant even fix a toaster.
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The motor is almost ready to be bolted back on the frame! Just need to get the converter on order.
Pat
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Looks great Pat.. Where did you find the valve covers or did you just get yours re-chromed ?
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Looks great Pat.. Where did you find the valve covers or did you just get yours re-chromed ?
Jamie,
I have the originals painted and stored, the chrome VC I ordered from Ames. I know my car didn’t come with chrome VC but I just had to add them!
Thanks!
Pat
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Looks great Pat. Is that Gold paint in the middle of your clutch fan or is that the original plating and how did you get it to look like that? It looks like the factory plating much like that on the brake booster.
Michael,
I mix Mat silver and satin gold to get the look!
Thank You!
Pat
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Lookin' GOOOD! ;)
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Unreal!!! I'm very envious ;D
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dude i cannot wait to see this monster done. WOW
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Restored the air cleaner today, I had to get the shaker on the motor for some pic's
Pat
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Dang it Pat.. your making me wish I had gone with chrome VC's now, I think you just cost me some money.
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Kurt and I put the motor and the trans on the frame today. I still need a few things here & there on the motor, I just need to see another 72 T/A with air!
I keep looking for another 72 T/A at car shows and cruise-in with no luck!
Pat
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That is just sweet!
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i cant wait to see your car when it is done it is awesome
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OK my car in rolling on all 4, well for now, as I will be taking the rear out to restore it next week!
Pat
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Did you win the lottery by any chance?
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I look forward to your updates! Looking fantastic, can't wait to see her when she's done ;D
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Did you win the lottery by any chance?
Nope! I just work hard 6 days a week at the same & only job for 29 years and I've been fortunate!
I look forward to your updates! Looking fantastic, can't wait to see her when she's done ;D
Thanks!
Pat
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I just seen this thread for the first time today ,and all I can say is WOW !
Incredible work your doing there .I can hardly imagine how nice it's going to be when it's finished ,better than new I would suspect
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Looks good Pat, thanks for the pics.
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wow. I havent seen this post yet until today. thats incredible. I think I hate you too.but in a good way. awesome car.
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Lookin' really good, Pat! ;)
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Did you win the lottery by any chance?
Nope! I just work hard 6 days a week at the same & only job for 29 years and I've been fortunate!
what is your job i may need to change majors
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Did you win the lottery by any chance?
Nope! I just work hard 6 days a week at the same & only job for 29 years and I've been fortunate!
what is your job i may need to change majors
Sell & outfit Fleming Yachts! http://www.burryachtsales.com/index.html
I just seen this thread for the first time today ,and all I can say is WOW !
Incredible work your doing there .I can hardly imagine how nice it's going to be when it's finished ,better than new I would suspect
Looks good Pat, thanks for the pics.
wow. I havent seen this post yet until today. thats incredible. I think I hate you too.but in a good way. awesome car.
Lookin' really good, Pat! ;)
Thank You!
Pat
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Pat,
Will post the pics of the work on your bezel this week! RC
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Pat,
Will post the pics of the work on your bezel this week! RC
Randy, I look forward to seeing the pics!
Thanks!
Pat
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I cant believe how far you've come and how close it is to being complete.......
Whats your plans for the interior? I have seen the pics of your charger and I can only assume, from the resto so far on the T/A, that the same is in store. Are you planning to get the originals recovered or new assemblys altogether or....... ? I see where you are having randy re-do your bezel....... have you started collecting other inside stuff? Your resto is unreal!..... and as for the pics of the motor / tranny..... well..... i dont believe i need to say anything...... WOW!!
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I cant believe how far you've come and how close it is to being complete.......
Whats your plans for the interior? I have seen the pics of your charger and I can only assume, from the resto so far on the T/A, that the same is in store. Are you planning to get the originals recovered or new assemblys altogether or....... ? I see where you are having randy re-do your bezel....... have you started collecting other inside stuff? Your resto is unreal!..... and as for the pics of the motor / tranny..... well..... i dont believe i need to say anything...... WOW!!
Brad,
I can see light at the end of the tunnel, but there's so much left to do! I do have all the new interior covers and I hope to start recovering the seat soon! I just polished the roof so I can install the roof stripe, then I will install the headliner that I have hanging on the wall to get the wrinkles out (for the past 2 months) after that the dash is next! Like I said so much left to do!
Hey man thanks for your kind words!
Pat
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Pick up some JW wheels at Carlisle and UPS drop off 2 of the 4 Firestone wide oval I order today. So I mounted two tonight and I'll get them balance tomorrow and bolt them on tomorrow night.
Pat
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Pat -- I'm trying to remember -- did the 72 TAs come with the trim rings? (If they did, then they'd be the sharp-edged shiny ones, not the rounded edge brushed ones.) Are you going to use them? ???
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Pat -- I'm trying to remember -- did the 72 TAs come with the trim rings? (If they did, then they'd be the sharp-edged shiny ones, not the rounded edge brushed ones.) Are you going to use them? ???
Rick, No trim rings on the 70 - 72 T/A note the JW 15" wheels use a 14" wheel center and the rim is taller to make the space, very unique looking.
Pat
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Getting close to finishing up Pat's dash bezel, lower right plate and heater/AC bezel, here are some progress pics, have about three hours left on the project with machining, clear coating, and reassembling, will look good as new when completed.....
Before Pics (Not in too bad of shape, typical oxidation, faded pattern in a few areas and the usual "yellowed" clear coat from exposure to the elements over the years..no surface rust or pits!!!!!!!!!!
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After Sanding process: 80 grit, 120 grit, 180 hand sand, 220 grit, 320 hand sand.......
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After the Polishing Process....two step....wiped down with laquer thinner, ready to be machined!
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Will post some progress pics later this weekend...When Completed!
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Amazing.
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Looks good Randy ... I'm assuming I'm somewhere in the que. It's all good - you'll get to it when there's time.
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Man, I just can't wait to see the finished product. That is a TA to be very proud of!!!
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Randy,
Thanks for posting the pictures of my dash, I love the before, during, & can't wait to see the after pic's
Thank You!
Pat
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Pat: Are you still going on the Hot Rod Power Tour? I am going to pick it up in Somerset Ky and go with them to Bristol. I will be in a '71 Olds 442 that I have recently restored. I will be with my Hot Rod buddy of 40 years in his nice '67 Chev Malibu. If you are going I will look for you.
Mike Martin
Madison, Ms
ps I restored recently a '75 T/A. It is not nearly as nice as your's but I had a good time fooling with it. Some photos are at http://www.flickr.com/photos/35248680@N03/
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Mike,
Yes! I head out late Friday. I was hoping to have the T/A ready for the Power tour but that not the case! So my next choice was my 68 Charger but someone at a car show two weeks ago had to have it and the $$$ was right so I sold it! To make room for my next project (old woody for my wife) So now I’m hoping the Camaro I ordered 10/13/08 will show up in time if not I will take the my 08 srt/8 Challenger. I’ll keep my eye out for you and your friend!
Thanks!
Pat
PS Your T/A looks awesome along with your other cars! nice shop to!
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Pat -- I'm trying to remember -- did the 72 TAs come with the trim rings? (If they did, then they'd be the sharp-edged shiny ones, not the rounded edge brushed ones.) Are you going to use them? ???
1970 Rally wheel trim rings were dealer installed option. 1971 and 1972 the trim rings were standard on the Rally Wheels and came in the trunk upon which the dealer installed. The trim rings used in those years are the same ones that are found on the more common Chevrolet Rally Wheel. They do look nice installed , but I am a NO RING guy.
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Pat, I just read this thread from beginning to end and I gotta tell ya, you have done a wonderful job on that car. I will be starting on my '77 when we get moved and organized. After seeing your work diary, I am both inspired and intimidated. Not sure I'll go as far as you did. I would like to but it would take me forever just to pay for it. And, while I'm not afraid of hard work, you've taken that phrase to a whole new level, where cars are concerned LOL.
My hat's off to you for the job you and your son have done. On the edge of my seat to see the end result of the massive amounts of work you have done.
Thanks for sharing this with us! I'll even be using it as a sort of guide when I begin mine.
Joel
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Mike,
Yes! I head out late Friday. I was hoping to have the T/A ready for the Power tour but that not the case! So my next choice was my 68 Charger but someone at a car show two weeks ago had to have it and the $$$ was right so I sold it! To make room for my next project (old woody for my wife) So now I’m hoping the Camaro I ordered 10/13/08 will show up in time if not I will take the my 08 srt/8 Challenger. I’ll keep my eye out for you and your friend!
Thanks!
Pat
PS Your T/A looks awesome along with your other cars! nice shop to!
Pat: Three of my buddies have ordered new Camaros. There seems to be lot of problems in the mfg/delivery of these vehicles. One just got his after a long wait (S# 202). Another of the three got confirmation that his order had been accepted for mfg. The third got tired of waiting and drove this week to Savannah Ga and bought one from a dealer there. I have not talked with him about the price but it was over retail. One dealer wanted $10k over retail!
In any case I will look for you on the HRPT. I will be in a '71 Olds 442-white with a air hood with green stripes. My friend will be in a blue Chev Malibu. We are looking forward to the trip. We join it at Somerset Ky.
Mike
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Pat just to let you know I found out that all the parts you have been restoring are actually chevy parts so your no longer going to need them. so i will gladly take them off your hands and give you a set of parts correct for a pontiac for you to start all over with. sound good? I get super envious of the progress you make! your doing one hell of a job with that car and i cannot wait to see it when its done. and hopefully one day in person would be even better.
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I agree with y88rick, I hope mine turns out even half as nice as your is. Cant wait to see it all done.
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Mike,
Yes! I head out late Friday. I was hoping to have the T/A ready for the Power tour but that not the case! So my next choice was my 68 Charger but someone at a car show two weeks ago had to have it and the $$$ was right so I sold it! To make room for my next project (old woody for my wife) So now I’m hoping the Camaro I ordered 10/13/08 will show up in time if not I will take the my 08 srt/8 Challenger. I’ll keep my eye out for you and your friend!
Thanks!
Pat
PS Your T/A looks awesome along with your other cars! nice shop to!
Pat: Three of my buddies have ordered new Camaros. There seems to be lot of problems in the mfg/delivery of these vehicles. One just got his after a long wait (S# 202). Another of the three got confirmation that his order had been accepted for mfg. The third got tired of waiting and drove this week to Savannah Ga and bought one from a dealer there. I have not talked with him about the price but it was over retail. One dealer wanted $10k over retail!
In any case I will look for you on the HRPT. I will be in a '71 Olds 442-white with a air hood with green stripes. My friend will be in a blue Chev Malibu. We are looking forward to the trip. We join it at Somerset Ky.
Mike
Mike,
If not the Camaro I'll be driving a orange Challenger and my friend will have his black Challenger. Both are srt/8 and we plan on racing them inTN.
thanks!
Pat
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Pat -- I'm trying to remember -- did the 72 TAs come with the trim rings? (If they did, then they'd be the sharp-edged shiny ones, not the rounded edge brushed ones.) Are you going to use them? ???
1970 Rally wheel trim rings were dealer installed option. 1971 and 1972 the trim rings were standard on the Rally Wheels and came in the trunk upon which the dealer installed. The trim rings used in those years are the same ones that are found on the more common Chevrolet Rally Wheel. They do look nice installed , but I am a NO RING guy.
Craig,
Thanks for posting the correct info on the trim ring for the Rally II. I am a NO ring guy as well!
Thanks!
Pat
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Pat, I just read this thread from beginning to end and I gotta tell ya, you have done a wonderful job on that car. I will be starting on my '77 when we get moved and organized. After seeing your work diary, I am both inspired and intimidated. Not sure I'll go as far as you did. I would like to but it would take me forever just to pay for it. And, while I'm not afraid of hard work, you've taken that phrase to a whole new level, where cars are concerned LOL.
My hat's off to you for the job you and your son have done. On the edge of my seat to see the end result of the massive amounts of work you have done.
Thanks for sharing this with us! I'll even be using it as a sort of guide when I begin mine.
Joel
Joel,
Thank You! and gool luck with your T/A!
Pat
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Pat just to let you know I found out that all the parts you have been restoring are actually chevy parts so your no longer going to need them. so i will gladly take them off your hands and give you a set of parts correct for a pontiac for you to start all over with. sound good? I get super envious of the progress you make! your doing one hell of a job with that car and i cannot wait to see it when its done. and hopefully one day in person would be even better.
Rick,
lol
Thanks man!
Pat
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I agree with y88rick, I hope mine turns out even half as nice as your is. Cant wait to see it all done.
I know I can't wait! I sold my 68 hemi Charger last week so I need a car to cruise in this summer!
Thank You!
Pat
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Here are the finished photos of Pat's bezel for his project, just have to reassemble, going to be gone for a few days but everything is ready to put back on it upon my return.....Came out very nice.....
(http://)(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n41/rc76banditta/100_3334.jpg)
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Randy,
That looks Awesome! Great job!!!
Thank You!
Pat
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One word...OUTSTANDING! Great job Pat.
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Pat: I made it to the Hot Rod Power Tour. I think I saw your Camaro at Bristol. Sld by a New Jersey dealer? If so that was probably your's. There were so many cars you very seldom saw the same one twice. I only did the Somerset-Bristol leg. Much fun. Hope to do it again next year and go further.
Mike Martin
Madison, Ms.
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Pat: I made it to the Hot Rod Power Tour. I think I saw your Camaro at Bristol. Sld by a New Jersey dealer? If so that was probably your's. There were so many cars you very seldom saw the same one twice. I only did the Somerset-Bristol leg. Much fun. Hope to do it again next year and go further.
Mike Martin
Madison, Ms.
Mike,
Yes, that was my black Camaro. I was told there was over 10,000 cars in Racine WI, I was #7251. I hope they tour to the northeast from Bristol TN next year! I will take the Trans Am!
Thanks!
Pat
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Randy,
I received the dash you restored today and it looks AWESOME! I will post some pictures soon but until you see the work in person, pictures just don't show the quality of your work!
THANK YOU!
Pat
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how is this puppy coming along these days pat?
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Here are some pictures of some of the work over the last few weeks.
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Cleaning the dash and re-dyeing it
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color sanding & Compounding the roof, trunk, and quarters.
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Painting the turnk.
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Installed the rear panel, bumper, and tail lights
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SWEEEEET...that car is going to be super clean and super awsome. Great job. You are very good at what you do.
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Man, that's beautiful. As soon as i find out what a turnk is, i'm gonna paint mine too! LOL
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She looks almost done. Can't wait to see it all done
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I would be mad as H-E- double hocky stick if I caught someone trying to use my car as a close line... lol ;D ;D ::)
Your doing a Phenominal job.... you are nearing the completion and I am eager to see it.
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every step is amazing Pat...... that paint really pops now that it's sanded and polished.
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Left side door trim is on; the S/S and chrome look so good with the blue paint. That's the one thing missing on the new muscle cars, Chrome!
Pat
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Chrome, yea, all ya get is plastic junk. It looks great Pat
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Nice job
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Left side door trim is on; the S/S and chrome look so good with the blue paint. That's the one thing missing on the new muscle cars, Chrome!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TransAm216.jpg)
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What is that shiney thing in the back in the middle where the back seat goes? my buddies 72 Monte has one and we cant figure out what the heck it is.
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It's part of the fuel/vent system for the gas tank. there are 4 fuel/vent line on the bottom.
Thanks!
Pat
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Is there a reason why the inside is painted that red? Why not just black or something
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Is there a reason why the inside is painted that red? Why not just black or something
That how it was built originally, GM would dip the body into a tank of red primer then paint it. It should have blue overspray here and there but I taped it off.
Pat
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yeah thats funny how some people overspray on purpose. I guess if you show your car is adds points huh? I saw something on powerblock tv of an original GTX that this guy had since he first bought it and he did a frame off resto and even over sprayed engine paint on the ground battery cable. Just like the factory.
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yeah thats funny how some people overspray on purpose. I guess if you show your car is adds points huh? I saw something on powerblock tv of an original GTX that this guy had since he first bought it and he did a frame off resto and even over sprayed engine paint on the ground battery cable. Just like the factory.
haha...I saw that episode today also. I also thought that was funny.
Your car looks great by the way. You are doing an amazing job.
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It's not like anyone's gonna see the red anyway.. It doesnt matter? So why spend the extra money?
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It's not like anyone's gonna see the red anyway.. It doesnt matter? So why spend the extra money?
So that the owner will know it is correct. Photo verification. If you want an all original car why leave out the details. A lot of people go to great detail to things no one will ever see. I know I have. I guess it is personal preference. I don't think I would go that far but I do really respect the guys that do.
Awesome job KeePat !
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It's not like anyone's gonna see the red anyway.. It doesnt matter? So why spend the extra money?
I see it! It's not like anyone's gonna see the red anyway.. It doesnt matter? So why spend the extra money?
So that the owner will know it is correct. Photo verification. If you want an all original car why leave out the details. A lot of people go to great detail to things no one will ever see. I know I have. I guess it is personal preference. I don't think I would go that far but I do really respect the guys that do.
Awesome job KeePat !
Thanks! and well put SoonerTA!
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Looking really, really good, Pat! ;)
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With the interior in, it won't matter lol.....
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It's not like anyone's gonna see the red anyway.. It doesnt matter? So why spend the extra money?
So that the owner will know it is correct. Photo verification. If you want an all original car why leave out the details. A lot of people go to great detail to things no one will ever see. I know I have. I guess it is personal preference. I don't think I would go that far but I do really respect the guys that do.
Awesome job KeePat !
Lol whatever. It really doesn't matter. How much was the paint? Some ridiculous sum for no reason. Honestly, that's ridiculous. I guess whatever floats your boat, but in the long run it doesn't matter...
Are you just going to sell it or something. I feel that's what it is.
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Lol whatever. It really doesn't matter. How much was the paint? Some ridiculous sum for no reason. Honestly, that's ridiculous. I guess whatever floats your boat, but in the long run it doesn't matter...
One thing to keep in mind is that a 72 Trans Am is one of the rarest Trans Ams of all, and the HOs were the cream of the crop that year. Firebirds were only being built in Norwood, OH, and 1972 was a strike year. Very few customer orders were filled, and a great many cars that were "in process" on the assembly line were scrapped rather than being finished when the strike was over. Why crush a new car with 0 miles on the odometer? Because they didn't meet the 1973 model year emissions and DOT crash regulations, so GM wasn't permitted to sell them. The line reopened too late to make the cutoff for the 1972 model year, so every last one of the in-process cars were crushed.
Bottom line is that this isn't a run-of-the-mill Trans Am restoration -- this is a painstaking recreation of one of the rarest cars built by Pontiac during the run of the gen 2 body style from 1970-81. It's essentially a rolling museum piece that's part of history. That's why it warrants such close attention to detail. Late in the 70s Pontiac was cranking out Trans Ams from 2 plants -- Norwood and Van Nuys -- in great quantities, so those cars don't command the prices of the early cars and the 72s in particular.
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This is going to be one fantastic restoration. I've enjoyed the entire thread!! I personally can't wait to see the finished product, awesome, awesome job. By the way, it all matters, even what you don't, or can't see :)
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Sorry gang, I guess I hit post one to many times ::)
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Yeah, well his car is no better than mine, so whatever... It's still stupid, no one's gonna see under the interior.... Only kidding yourself, seems kinda snotty to me honestly.
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Yeah, well his car is no better than mine, so whatever... It's still stupid, no one's gonna see under the interior.... Only kidding yourself, seems kinda snotty to me honestly.
I didn't say it was better than your car -- I said it was more rare than your car. That doesn't imply superiority at all -- it's a reflection of market prices as determined by supply. Your car may be worth more to *you* than his is to him -- I don't know that and it's not the kind of value I'm describing. By the raw numbers, the effort expended in observing these kind of details will bring more return than the same effort put into a car that was produced in greater quantities. You may consider it to be "guilding the lilly" but someone after a pristine example will pay big bucks for those details. That's what separates the Barrett-Jackson cars from the barn cars up on blocks that people try to extort inordinate amounts of cash from.
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Yeah, well his car is no better than mine, so whatever... It's still stupid, no one's gonna see under the interior.... Only kidding yourself, seems kinda snotty to me honestly.
At 17 its easy to know it all! This car is a true classic! Say what you will, hands down, this car is the real deal. Opinions like yours are like.... well, you know! Everyone's got one, and they always stink!
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Well put everyone. Anyone can have a nice car with nice paint ect, but to put all the time and effort to create a 100 point restoration is something a select few can do. So I say keep up the good work Pat, cant wait to see her all complete.
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Yes, Well put everyone!
Thank You!
Pat
PS. do you think its ok if I repaint the seat spring before I recover the front seats? ;)
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Pat your doing a fantastic job. That car is looking great.
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I'm with you Limey, 17 old's do know it all. I'm sure with all his worldly knowledge of cars and in depth experience at doing restorations he would do a much better job.
KeePat you should do it the way he would, oh that's right I forgot! It's not his car.
It would be an incredible waste of time (not to mention sacrilegious) to cut corners on a project like this. Everything matters in this kind of restoration if you're going to do it right, and this is most definitely being done right. KeePats car + Keepats time + Keepats money = KeePats way aka the right way. It's real cool of you to take the time to share this bad a** restoration in progress with everyone KeePat, thank you! Looks beautiful.
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Yeah I know it all, just kidding, but honestly, going with a specifically coded paint for a part of the car no one will see? Come on... I honestly think that Barret Jackson ruined all this. Rich old men willing to dish out 200 k for a car, its absurd. People restore cars just to sell them and make money, which is kinda sad. I mean, it should be about the car itself. But whatever. I mean, my car is basically factory detail with what I've done to it, as far as paint and decals and upholstery, but I mean, to an extent like that interior paint, it's just kinda... I don't know. It's not like he's doing something incredible, it all comes down to how much money you have, not your incredible skill, It's a money thing not some rare quality keepat possesses that lets him do such a job. It's the money... That's the truth..
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If you had a clue you would just shut up. (censored by Hammer)
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its what makes the differance from a restoration and a rebuild. most do not see a differance between the 2. A rebuild genereally puts it back to like new conditions, a restoration takes it back to original specifications. And having a fully documented restoration is the ultimate ownership. The pride in knowing each and every bolt on a personal level makes it even better. Those that have the ability (knowledge and money) I tip my hat to one and all, I envy you. I also give credit to those that do thier very best with limited budgets for thier ingenuity and dedication.
Not wanting to pee in anyones cornflakes but every member to this forum has a car they can be proud of, for there are no two alike. If we all had the same exact car then there wouldnt be any joy in ownership and this forum... The thing to remember here is the car being shown is the owners pride and joy and thier sharing thier knowledge in the process they choose only enlightens others as well as educates.
Pat your car is looking great and I look forward to seeing its completion, Anastasiofan92 you car has came a long ways since you got it and you should be very proud( which i know you are) and I look forward as well to seeing its completeion. Lets all keep in mind there is more than one way to build a bridge.
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Yeah totally agree.
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great work pat thanks for shareing the thread. its people like you on this forum that are willing to share and include all of us in a great project awesome work dude
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Slow day at work here so I read all 18 pages of this restoration. Nothing short of AMAZING! The eye for detail, the care and craftsmanship, beautiful. What ever money you spent, and time invested, will be well worth it. Rick's right, those are the rarest second gen Firebirds made due to the strike year. As far as any negative comments on this, there shouldn't be any, so cut 'em out. This car is a work of art, if your an art critic, fine, otherwise, shut up!
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Hadn't checked in for a while. Amazing progress Pat! I didn't notice any striping on it yet...is that in the works or was this a no-option car in that specific regard? Just curious :)
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You go Pat!!
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Lol whatever. It really doesn't matter. How much was the paint? Some ridiculous sum for no reason. Honestly, that's ridiculous. I guess whatever floats your boat, but in the long run it doesn't matter...
One thing to keep in mind is that a 72 Trans Am is one of the rarest Trans Ams of all, and the HOs were the cream of the crop that year. Firebirds were only being built in Norwood, OH, and 1972 was a strike year. Very few customer orders were filled, and a great many cars that were "in process" on the assembly line were scrapped rather than being finished when the strike was over. Why crush a new car with 0 miles on the odometer? Because they didn't meet the 1973 model year emissions and DOT crash regulations, so GM wasn't permitted to sell them. The line reopened too late to make the cutoff for the 1972 model year, so every last one of the in-process cars were crushed.
Bottom line is that this isn't a run-of-the-mill Trans Am restoration -- this is a painstaking recreation of one of the rarest cars built by Pontiac during the run of the gen 2 body style from 1970-81. It's essentially a rolling museum piece that's part of history. That's why it warrants such close attention to detail. Late in the 70s Pontiac was cranking out Trans Ams from 2 plants -- Norwood and Van Nuys -- in great quantities, so those cars don't command the prices of the early cars and the 72s in particular.
Very well put Rick!
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All I have to say is that Pat is a real class act. He takes the time and has the attention to detail with all his cars. I wish I had the money to pull off the works of art that he does. And, for what it's worth, that is one hell of a fast resto too!
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Put the headliner in a few weeks ago, and the left side upper door trim. Installing the headliner is a MF but it turnout great!
Thank you all for the kind words and support for this project!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TransAm201.jpg)
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Looking good.
Yeah, those old school headliners are a B**CH. Did one in my 70 442. I also had my interior out and it was still a pain. Can you imagine trying to put a headliner in with the seats still in the car?
As much fun as tearing it apart was, reassembly is even better, isn't it? It's almost like Christmas every day you get to open up something else to put it on the car.
For me, the most nerve wracking part was the paint phase. Having to turn it over to someone else and trust that they would put same the care and attention to detail into it as I was really hard. It was a huge relief when it was finally painted and it turned out great. And it's a black car.
I see that you drive your other cars. Do you plan on driving this one as well? Or will it ONLY do show and cruise in duty for a few years?
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Looking good.
Yeah, those old school headliners are a B**CH. Did one in my 70 442. I also had my interior out and it was still a pain. Can you imagine trying to put a headliner in with the seats still in the car?
As much fun as tearing it apart was, reassembly is even better, isn't it? It's almost like Christmas every day you get to open up something else to put it on the car.
For me, the most nerve wracking part was the paint phase. Having to turn it over to someone else and trust that they would put same the care and attention to detail into it as I was really hard. It was a huge relief when it was finally painted and it turned out great. And it's a black car.
I see that you drive your other cars. Do you plan on driving this one as well? Or will it ONLY do show and cruise in duty for a few years?
No question the re-assembly is the best part and when the UPS man drops off stuff you bought from ebay or one of the supplier it is like Christmas! As for driving this car, my wife and I will take it on the Hot Rod Power tour next June and maybe to one of the big all Pontiac events.
Thanks!
Pat
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Man, I have got to get some of that Plastic Dip.....outstanding idea! You didn't patent that idea yet did you? Can I use it?
Please send all royalty to the keepat T/A fund. lol.
Thanks!
Pat
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Wow that plastic dip is an awesome idea. That just gives me so many ideas now. lol Great job
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Wow that plastic dip is an awesome idea. That just gives me so many ideas now. lol Great job
I would have never thought of that. Thanks for the tip Pat!
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Wow that plastic dip is an awesome idea. That just gives me so many ideas now. lol Great job
I would have never thought of that. Thanks for the tip Pat!
Yeah, I've used it a few times. That's a prefect application. I plan on using it for the same parts on the 71 Lemans and the 78 TA I just got. The front seat back release knob/lever is another good application.
It's also good for making your own grommets over sharp metal openings that wiring has to go through or over. Takes a few coats to build it up but works great.
1980MNT/A posted a question looking for a replacement rubber cap for the seat release and I suggested he use the Plasti dip. Don't know if he did or not.
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I have the Plasti dip on order!! I will post pics on how it turns out!
Bill
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Pat........
a couple things............
#1, i'm so impressed at every post you make.... i've said it 15 times already, but awesome job! AWESOME!
#2, i hate to see the negative comments on your post. I wish that some of those last posts could be removed. I've been on the forum for a couple years now, and i saw the original post where the Hitman had the police T/A sensor made up ( i like your's too hammer!) But this is only the second time I've seen it used....
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Pat........
a couple things............
#1, i'm so impressed at every post you make.... i've said it 15 times already, but awesome job! AWESOME!
#2, i hate to see the negative comments on your post. I wish that some of those last posts could be removed. I've been on the forum for a couple years now, and i saw the original post where the Hitman had the police T/A sensor made up ( i like your's too hammer!) But this is only the second time I've seen it used....
I don't think I have ever seen it. Sorry it had to happen to such a great post and Amazing car!!! I can't wait to see more pictures!
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Hey guys it's all good, the negative post ad a little drama to the thread.
Thanks!
Pat
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You can't go wrong with a little drama ;D
Your work is phenomenal, even if you can't see it, at least you will have that sense of sastification that you did it right underath. This thread is the one of the few that I look forward to the updates and I would certainly LOVE to see it when you're all done!
Looks like you're on the right track on completing it as well ;)
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You can't go wrong with a little drama ;D
Your work is phenomenal, even if you can't see it, at least you will have that sense of sastification that you did it right underath. This thread is the one of the few that I look forward to the updates and I would certainly LOVE to see it when you're all done!
Looks like you're on the right track on completing it as well ;)
I agree. When ever I see this post have an update I click on it right away. Very cool people and cars in this one.
So do we have a due date for the car yet and a name picked out?
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You can't go wrong with a little drama ;D
Your work is phenomenal, even if you can't see it, at least you will have that sense of sastification that you did it right underath. This thread is the one of the few that I look forward to the updates and I would certainly LOVE to see it when you're all done!
Looks like you're on the right track on completing it as well ;)
I agree. When ever I see this post have an update I click on it right away. Very cool people and cars in this one.
So do we have a due date for the car yet and a name picked out?
No due date, but I hope sometime this fall?? As for a car name the only time I would need a name is when I bust my knuckles lol.
Thanks!
Pat
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I'll have to double check, but I think my 72 has metal bows in the headliner. I did not see any in yours. are they there and not visable or were 2 different headerliner types available? maybe I'm confused with the 65 belvidiere headliner.
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I'll have to double check, but I think my 72 has metal bows in the headliner. I did not see any in yours. are they there and not visable or were 2 different headerliner types available? maybe I'm confused with the 65 belvidiere headliner.
Yes 72 have bows; the bows are slid into the white sleeves and have plastic clips that hold the bow up.
Thanks!
Pat
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Put the dash in and restored the heat & A/C control.
Pat
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Was your dash pad reusable or did you have it restored by Just Dashes or the other place?
Just curious what they run now days and how it came out if you did have it done.
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lookin very nice man.... good work.
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Was your dash pad reusable or did you have it restored by Just Dashes or the other place?
Just curious what they run now days and how it came out if you did have it done.
I was lucky my dash was in great shape. I cleaned it and re-dye it my self.
I have used Just Dashes in the past and they do great work but thay are slow!
They did all the upper door panels and dashs pads on my 68 Dodge Charger, looked awesome!
Thanks!
Pat
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Now Pat, why go to all that trouble to do the small things you can't see? I did things like the steering column and the ac, heater box took it apart and cleaned it painted it but why nobody will ever see it, but sure does make me feel better. People in the first shop would be like why are you painting that, or why are you powder coating those they will never bee seen, you know at some point somebody will look at that and be like wow this car was done correct. I am going to use the plastic dip on the rod that pops up the hood so it doesn't scratch the underside of my hood. Nice job and keep up the good work. Love the car.
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pat is that teh correct switch for a 72? im not nitpicking just curious. my 71 has the swirl plate in the heater control unit and i have no idea how many years they did that.
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Yes, 72 has the swirl plate as well. Here are some pictures of the dash installed.
Pat
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gotcha major hat off to you on this car pat. you are one picky bass tard lol. your doing a marvelous job with it.
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I put the carpet in and will give it a week or two before I cut it to fit. Laying on it while working under the dash will not only be more comfortable but it will help it conform to the floor.
Pat
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oh my this thing is just getting better and better by the day it seems.
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Wow, I can't wait to see the rest of the interior in
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Pat, Your car is looking great! Can't wait to see more pictures.
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Talk about attention to detail. I tip my hat to you Pat please keep us posted with updates.
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Interesting blanket over the floorplan - looks like aircraft blankets.
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Interesting blanket over the floorplan - looks like aircraft blankets.
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Just shipping blankets, I use them on the Yachts I work on. I pinch two new ones for the T/A
Pat
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Man I cant get over how well your car is coming together.... Looks fantastic....
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Interesting blanket over the floorplan - looks like aircraft blankets.
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Just shipping blankets, I use them on the Yachts I work on. I pinch two new ones for the T/A
Pat
PAt, what do you do for a living? Yachts, sounds like a heck of a job.
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I work here http://www.burryachtsales.com/facility.html and it a great Job! Started in 1981 cuting grass, washing boats and cleaning the bathrooms
Still Cleaning the bathrooms 28 years later. :)
Pat
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Pat your attention to detail is remarkable. I hope when I get started that I can do half as good as you. I know I can speak for everybody here that your one of a kind for detail. Keep the pictures coming
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Disassembled the shifter tonight but I need to send the shifter shaft to Paul’s Chrome to be re-chromed before a can reassemble and install the shifter in the car.
Pat
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Pat your attention to detail is remarkable. I hope when I get started that I can do half as good as you. I know I can speak for everybody here that your one of a kind for detail. Keep the pictures coming
It’s cool that most here enjoy the pictures and the progress on the T/A. I know I enjoy the restoration and posting the pictures & sharing progress and most of all the nice comments!
Thank You All!
Pat
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Hey, where you work isn't that far from me at all! Are you in VA or MD?
That shifter looks good, what did you do to it?
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That shifter looks good, what did you do to it?
I've done a few of those recently. I'm guessing some sand or soda blasting and, from the color, some cast blast spray paint.
Looks great as usual.....
I'd like to have a couple shifter shafts rechromed as well. How much does it run at Pauls? I've heard they are expensive though you probably get a volume discount. ;)
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Hey, where you work isn't that far from me at all! Are you in VA or MD?
That shifter looks good, what did you do to it?
hes in edgewater md, actually quite close to the both of us.....never knew that til now
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I sand blasted the rust off, and I have found that Rustoleum #7519 Stainless Steel paint looks the most like unpainted steel. I’ll let you know what Paul’s charges to re-chrome the shifter I’m guessing about $50?? And yes I live in Edgewater MD, just south of Annapolis
Thanks!
Pat
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With the dash in I could now install the windshield and then finish the headliner trim. I bought all new date coded glass as the original glass was all scratched up!
Pat
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i see you have a ppg window they fed you some b.s. on the date code as there isnt one in it. and L.O.F. was original for these cars
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i see you have a ppg window they fed you some b.s. on the date code as there isnt one in it. and L.O.F. was original for these cars
I’m no expert on glass codes but I had them put the same Soft- Ray LOF as the old glass had on it.
Pat
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Yeah edgewater isn't that far from me at all! Did the car originally come from MD?
That must have hurt, putting the windshield glue on such a nice paint lol
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Yeah edgewater isn't that far from me at all! Did the car originally come from MD?
That must have hurt, putting the windshield glue on such a nice paint lol
The T/A was bought and stayed in Memphis TN, until I bought it last year from the 3rd owner who stored it inside for over 20 years.
Thanks!
Pat
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Hey Pat I noticed that you never put down any pinch weld primer for the urethane to stick to, or did you use another product? I tried to put a window in without using the primer and after it was dried the window pushed right out.
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My Brother is a Glazer (got me the cool suction cup) and butyl tape I use is the same he uses to put 8’x8’ glass in building. Just wipe it down with alcohol and stick it on.
That along with the trim it will never come out.
Pat
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the way pat did it is the way the factory used to do it. no primer needed
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Oh ok
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That's right. I really would like to find out where Pat is finding all this info, I dont see him asking a whole lot of questions on here
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Just the little details are what has me drooling!
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That's right. I really would like to find out where Pat is finding all this info, I dont see him asking a whole lot of questions on here
I take a lot of pictures of other T/A and read a lot of other post and every manual I could buy!
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Put the windsheild trim on all of which I had Chromed, I know it should be anodized but it looks so good chromed! If I ever come across a great set of NOS trim I'll change it out.
Pat
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I take a lot of pictures of other T/A and read a lot of other post and every manual I could buy!
Totally agree with your method Pat...research is the key in any endeavor.
Great work...and I have to say the windshield trim looks great chromed 8)
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and if you ever buy nos trim, i want to buy your chrome trim. btw, NICE collection of manuals etc!!
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Your car is looking better and better every time you post a new picture. Great Job! I am jealios
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The chrome window trim does look good but I have to say that I was a little surprised to see that you strayed from 100% correct on something so visible. Is there no one that does anodizing to make them look like factory? It's still awesome. Just curious.
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I do like the chrome even if the car is suppose to be 100% correct.
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I think the chrome looks better then the original
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as why i mentioned i wanted to buy them. pat, did you do your drip rails as well in chrome? what was your cost for that project?
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as why i mentioned i wanted to buy them. pat, did you do your drip rails as well in chrome? what was your cost for that project?
The drip rails are S/S and I polished them to a hi-gloss. As for the front and back window trim they cost about $700.00 to get 8 parts chromed and they do look awesome!
Thanks!
Pat
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Simply outstanding! I can't get enough of this thread!
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I'll second that, this is the first thread I open when I see new reply's hoping for more pictures.
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Put the back glass and trim on tonight. I hope to work on it tomorrow after I seal the deck.
Pat
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Had a bran fart last night as I forgot to paint the back lip of the package tray with the interior blue paint before I put the glass in. so it cost me about 3 hour to tape, mask, paint the little 1 ½” lip. Not much room to work, but it looks like it was painted with the glass off! On a cool note my wife picked up the October issue of Hot Rod today and there’s a picture of my Camaro on page 54 from the Power Tour. I'm also on page 63 with my son Kurt and 2,375 other long haulers.
Pat
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Your car is amazing. Congrats on making it in the mag. Car is looking super sweet.
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jezuz wat a nice garage..................... :o
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pat your killing me with this detail. either you have a very forgiving wife, or an awefull lot of time on your hands.
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pat your killing me with this detail. either you have a very forgiving wife, or an awefull lot of time on your hands.
I wish I had both...haha
I have the first, but I do not have a lot of time on my hands. I wish I did.
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Nice work, congrats on getting in the hot rod magazine.
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I plan on hiding a better stereo or having the stock AM radio upgraded with an Ipod plug. So I installed two 6”x 8” speakers in the package tray. I made two adapter plates as to use the factory speaker holes instead of drilling more holes for the new speakers.
Pat
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Pat,
72's may be different as far as how the jack mounts/stows but I know you have to use low profile speakers, like less than 2 1/2 inches, in order to avoid interferance issues between the passenger side speaker and the jack. If your jack stows the same as the 78, under the package tray, you might want to test fit it before you get the rear seats in place just in case you have to change speakers.
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Congrats on the magazine shot! Didn't know you had a camaro. So you have a camaro, 72 T/A, GT500, Challenger, 69 Charger, what else? lol
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Pat,
72's may be different as far as how the jack mounts/stows but I know you have to use low profile speakers, like less than 2 1/2 inches, in order to avoid interferance issues between the passenger side speaker and the jack. If your jack stows the same as the 78, under the package tray, you might want to test fit it before you get the rear seats in place just in case you have to change speakers.
The jack on a 72 goes under the spare tire. I checked this morning and I should have about an 1/2" between the speaker and spare.
Thanks!
Pat
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Ah, so the jack does stow in a different place on the 72 but still comes into play a bit due to it raising the full sized spare a little. Interesting.
Glad to hear that it won't be a problem.
By the way, I was wondering what your basic Fleming 55 goes for these days?
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Ah, so the jack does stow in a different place on the 72 but still comes into play a bit due to it raising the full sized spare a little. Interesting.
Glad to hear that it won't be a problem.
By the way, I was wondering what your basic Fleming 55 goes for these days?
Equipped with all the bells and whistles i.e. bow & stern thrusters, stabilizers, 12’ tender, water-maker, sat TV, Sat phone, custom A/V system and full electronics is 1.7 for the 55 and just over 3 for the 65
Thanks!
Pat
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I like those adapters Pat! You might want to see if there's a market for that kind of part...
I might have missed it earlier but any eta on when the car will be on the road?
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I like those adapters Pat! You might want to see if there's a market for that kind of part...
I might have missed it earlier but any eta on when the car will be on the road?
Brian,
I'm hoping for late October??
Thanks!
Pat
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Unable to find the caulking use to seal the kick panels in any of the restoration catalog, I went to the local Ace hardware to buy some plumber putty. I had read in another thread that plumber putty was a good alterative. Instead I found some rope caulk that looks to be the same consistence as the original caulking and it worked great!
Pat
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Very nice ... every time I see the before pictures I'm like "toss it". Then you scuff if it up, paint or otherwise make it look new. Tell the truth, you've got some genie that blinks this stuff back to the original condition ...
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pat what in the hell here??? every time you get me so intrigued with the detail you go through on this car. you best win massive awards with the car or they are not paying proper respects you are due on this one. my hat has remained off and in awwe more like shock and the hat has finally fallen out of my hand and hit the floor. one more photo shoot like this and im going to end up in the e.r.
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Well put y88rick, I too am speechless.
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Totally breathless here...the detail your putting in is amazing... I do have a question to ask on your detail.. are you planning on adding any inspection markings as well. During certain time frames thruout GM produtions as a part was installed it was inspected to confirm it was in specification, if it was in specification then it was marked with a oil paint pen... this usually was for component parts. Now this does notmean all components had them just select units during ceratin time frames... In order to be correct you would have to find out if GM switched suppliers of a certain unit. The new supplier would be unders full inspection for a time perios until GM deamed that it was trustworthy, thus the usual multi color markings on units or grease pen number markings.
I realize that this would be a lot of work to research.. but IF a man went to this extent to me it would seperate a restoration to a by the numbers replication....just curious is all.
Anyway you coose... You are doing a amazingly awesome job... something anyone ( even GM ) should and would be proud in awe. GREAT JOB>>>
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Totally breathless here...the detail your putting in is amazing... I do have a question to ask on your detail.. are you planning on adding any inspection markings as well. During certain time frames thruout GM produtions as a part was installed it was inspected to confirm it was in specification, if it was in specification then it was marked with a oil paint pen... this usually was for component parts. Now this does notmean all components had them just select units during ceratin time frames... In order to be correct you would have to find out if GM switched suppliers of a certain unit. The new supplier would be unders full inspection for a time perios until GM deamed that it was trustworthy, thus the usual multi color markings on units or grease pen number markings.
I realize that this would be a lot of work to research.. but IF a man went to this extent to me it would seperate a restoration to a by the numbers replication....just curious is all.
Anyway you coose... You are doing a amazingly awesome job... something anyone ( even GM ) should and would be proud in awe. GREAT JOB>>>
I’m planning on it; I just need to find another 72 that still has its factory marks as I only have a few pictures of the few mark left on this car.
Thank You!
Pat
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holy wowzers
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I pulled the rear out of the car this past weekend and by the looks of the spring pads this is the 1st time it was removed from the car. Before I sand blasted it I noted all the factory inspection marks I could find.
Pat
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gee willicas i wonder how this is going to turn out now. lol
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Bad news went to remove the axle shaft and discovered the pinion shaft bolt sheared and the pinion shaft had welded itself to one of the side gears. Looks like I will need a new ring case as this one is damaged and by the time I get the pinion shaft out it will be beyond repair. I did get the wheel wells undercoated and no overspray like the factory, I just can’t do it sorry!
Pat
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Oh no! sorry to hear about your misfortune but it's better to find out now than later down the road!
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pat glad you caught it now!! i can understand not going with paint over spray in the wheel wells we can forgive you. would you like to do my 71 when you are all done with yours and have all that free time? haha nice job as always
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Wow Pat nice work. I would love to see this car in person someday when it is all finished.
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Sorry to hear that Pat! That #%$#^@* pinion bolt is a PIA. Mine was also broken when I went to replace my axle seals! That seems to be a real weak spot on these second gens as there have been a few threads on that same problem. On another note, the car looks just fantastic. I hope I get to see it in person one day :)
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I ordered a two line fuel pickup/sending unit from the only supplier who offers it and out of the box it was defective. I ordered a second unit from them and it was also defective so I sent both units back for a refund. The problem is they start with a one line fuel pickup and they have someone add the second line but they are trying to solder a stainless steel line to a steel unit, and don’t add a line support like the original. After reading a few post on 70 to 73 fuel pickup I decided to make one from my old unit and a new single line fuel pickup. I was able to reuse the old vent line and line support and solder it to the new unit.
Pat
This is the defective unit I sent back, note the half a** solder job
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This is the unit I did, note the line support.
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The orginal unit
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Nice work!
Wanna do one for me now? I got an 80 firebird just waiting in the wings :)
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Nice work!
Wanna do one for me now? I got an 80 firebird just waiting in the wings :)
No Problem! Are there two lines on 1980??
Pat
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I was talking the whole car :)
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I was talking the whole car :)
haha...know kidding. Pat is doing an amazing job!
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Nice work!
Wanna do one for me now? I got an 80 firebird just waiting in the wings :)
No Problem! Are there two lines on 1980??
Pat
Im pretty sure all the T/A's had 2 lines, the plain Firebirds had one line, it also depends on how it was ordered
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Well........ I'm waiting for an update, Pat!
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Well not to much to update, I have some parts on order for the rear and I hope to paint the rear over the weekend??
Here are a few item I restored, and as the part start to go back on the car I can start to see my shop floor again!
Thanks!
Pat
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Nice shop you got there! I wish I had something like that
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Your shop looks like an attic. My statement wasn't meant to sound degrading, I was just making an observation. It is nice by the way.
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Your shop looks like an attic. My statement wasn't meant to sound degrading, I was just making an observation. It is nice by the way.
It's the room over the garage that I use for motorcycles and now parts
Thanks
Pat
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Yeah... how come you're not putting rest of the interior back in yet? it's not even time consuming besides the dash.
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Yeah... how come you're not putting rest of the interior back in yet? it's not even time consuming besides the dash.
I have yet to restore/recover the seats, and without the front seat there more room to work. The column may go in this weekend??
Pat
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KeePat....
Love the T/A Library you got going here....
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Are the parts in alphabetical order or is there a unique filing system (jk).
Looks outstanding!
I know it’s a mess and it drive nuts! Next car I’ll try to do a better job keeping the parts organized! :)
Thanks!
Pat
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Doh, Pat. You done slipped up. That's like looking behind the curtain of the Wizard of Oz. We all thought every part was new or restored, cataloged as to the order of reinstallation and neatly stored waiting to go back on the car. j/k ;)
It may look a mess but I bet you know EXACTLY where everything is. We all wish we had as much spare room.
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great idea for the attic of my shop pat!!!!!!!!! thanks for the idea as i too happen to have a parts storage and location problem but with 3 cars so i have 3 times the mess you have but all on one floor.
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Hey thanks for posting those pics. You've got some nice AMerican muscle there!
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Doh, Pat. You done slipped up. That's like looking behind the curtain of the Wizard of Oz. We all thought every part was new or restored, cataloged as to the order of reinstallation and neatly stored waiting to go back on the car. j/k ;)
lol
Thanks!
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Today I clear coated the fuel tank and Kurt helped install it.
Pat
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With a little tweaking all the new lines fit great! I just need to change a few clamps to the tower type so it will look original.
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Again outstanding, did you put down a clear base over the tank before you cleared it or go right over the tank itself?
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Again outstanding, did you put down a clear base over the tank before you cleared it or go right over the tank itself?
I just cleared over the tank itself so you can still see the stamping marks on the tank.
Thanks!
Pat
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Today I used a cutoff saw to cut through carrier and the spyder gears to remove the shafts. Somehow the bolt that holds the shaft pin in sheared allowing the shaft pin to spin and weld itself to the spyder gears. Not fun!
Pat
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The parts that failed
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i have had that mess before. except i had less gear left and the car still drove home
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Youser! Tha looked like a pain in the arsh!
(PS...love the pics...you have mad skills...!)
Rick C
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Pat the gas tank looks awesome glad you got the rear fixed looks good so far.
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The shifter shaft showed up today for Paul’s chrome so I reassembled the shifter tonight!
Pat
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Now that's pretty! Also shiny, I could swear I can see my reflection off the chrome on the computer screen :o
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just beautiful, keep it up Pat!
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My new posi unit showed up today along with the bearing kit. Look like I will have to replace the ring & pinion as I found a small chip in the pinion gear. So I was good and ordered the same 3:08 as original from DTS. :(
Pat
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Nice lookin posi you got there Pat.
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You really are doing a full restoration haha. I probably would have put it back in, and replaced it when it finally gave out.
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Doesn't everyone work with clean white cloth .... how come my projects invariably have me and the entire garage floor, walls, tools and light switches being the other color ...you know, BLACK!
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Removed all the seals and axle bearings from the rear, and then washed it to remove all the grinding dust from cutting the posi unit out. Taped it to paint the center cast color and then the axle shafts steel color. After I reassemble it I’ll add all the original inspection marks.
Pat
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Is that a new Camaro I see in your lair??????????
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Is that a new Camaro I see in your lair??????????
I noticed that too... The T/A seems to be coming along nicely... was looking back at the begging of the project and BOY has it progressed... AMAZING JOB PAT!!!!
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Is that a new Camaro I see in your lair??????????
Yes!
Is that a new Camaro I see in your lair??????????
I noticed that too... The T/A seems to be coming along nicely... was looking back at the begging of the project and BOY has it progressed... AMAZING JOB PAT!!!!
Thanks!
Through another forum I located the correct fuel tank vent line hose clamps, the only difference is there no slot in the bolt. It was suggested to cut a slot with a dremel tool which worked great, 1st picture is one new clamp & one original clamp. 2nd picture show the new clamps installed, Note the red & green pinch clamps are correct for other two lines.
Pat
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I also restored both rear brakes assembly’s. Now I just need to confirm if a 72 T/A had finned or un-finned rear drums as my car had one of each on it when I bought it?
Pat
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great job pat.
I wish i could confirm that as my 71 has one finned drum and one missing so we both have the same question at hand.
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OH WOW! Amazed again.
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Whew! Just discovered the restoration thread Pat, and have to commend you for the fantastic work you've done! So close to the finish, you and Kurt must really be getting excited!
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6 days without an update is driving me crazy! Hope everything is going as smooth as it should!
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the brakes look good and so does the rear
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6 days without an update is driving me crazy! Hope everything is going as smooth as it should!
All is well! Friday I flew down to Daytona International Speedway to race new Dodge SRT car at the SRT Track Experience. Had an AWESOME weekend! Check out the link below
Thanks!
Pat
http://www.drivesrt.com/en/track_experience/overview/
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OMG, I want that for my 19th birthday! I'm sure you had an awesome time! Any pics of it? Did you get to drive the Viper!?
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yeah a couple michiganders in that pic eh?
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All the cars had Michigan tag as Chrysler supplied over 30 SRT Chargers, 300s, & Challengers for me and 37 other people to abuse. The 1st thing they told us is their not your tires, it’s not your gas, and it’s not your car! So drive it like you stole it! It was too cool! Each car had two cameras, one at the driver and one on the road. In about 4 weeks they will send me a CD.
Thanks!
Pat
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All the cars had Michigan tag as Chrysler supplied over 30 SRT Chargers, 300s, & Challengers for me and 37 other people to abuse. The 1st thing they told us is their not your tires, it’s not your gas, and it’s not your car! So drive it like you stole it! It was too cool! Each car had two cameras, one at the driver and one on the road. In about 4 weeks they will send me a CD.
Thanks!
Pat
sounds awesome i wish some one would tell me that
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that is too cool. how in the world did you get so lucky as to be able to do something like that?
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It came standard with my SRT Challenger. I’m not sure if Ford or GM offer anything like it but they should!
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Where did you get the paint for the drums? Also you are doing excellent work.
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Ryan
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Ryan,
I have yet to get the right drums, they should come in next week. I will use Eastwood cast iron high temp paint on the drums. I used Eastwooh spray gray on the center of the rear as it matched the best!
Thank you!
Pat
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With some help from my brother, we set up the new ring & pinion. I also duplicated all the inspection markings I noted before sand blasting the housing. I hope to install it Sunday. I’m looking forward to seeing it on all four again.
Pat
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simply amazing.
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Whoa Pat !!
What are you doing posting pics of paint dabs on ring gears and the back sides of axle shaft plates? Those will never even been seen again by anyone. That's really snotty of you.
I'm joking of coarse ! :o ;D :D ;) Couldn't resist. >:D
The bar just keeps getting higher and higher. This car is going to be nicer than your other three factory built cars.
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There were only 3 of these?
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This car is going to be nicer than your other three factory built cars.
There were only 3 of these?
He's referring to Pat's other cars.
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Yuo'll know the a car show is rigged if you don't win 1st place when you get it done
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I really want to see this car in person someday. I keep bringing friends over to show them your car and the updates.. It's outstanding. EVEN THE THINGS THAT NO ONE WILL EVER SEE. LOL
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I see your backlash was within limits and your contact pattern is dead accurate.. FANTASTIC JOB!!! No doubt that the 3rd member will hold up... cant wait to see the completed process.. and I pitty the first bird that drops a bomb on it.. LOL... I think you might go off like Rick over his squirrel problem....
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WOW! Simply amazing work Pat. Keep it up :)
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Outstanding? I wonder what your car would bring to a barret jackson auction with all the small little details that no one will ever see!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work
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I think a small lynch mob would be at Pat's door if he ever decided to part with that car. :D
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I think you are right Brian.
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Now don't give people ideas!!! ;D
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I think a small lynch mob would be at Pat's door if he ever decided to part with that car. :D
Everything's for sale! My favorite car is the next one;)
Pat
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I put the rear & drive shaft in today and set up the parking brake cables.
Pat
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I think a small lynch mob would be at Pat's door if he ever decided to part with that car. :D
SMALL lynch mob? I TRUELY doubt that there would be anything SMALL about it.
Gunner
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Pat,
You should inquire about putting this in an auto museum somewhere - I can see many a car enthusiast appreciating your works for years, perhaps decades down the road.
What are your plans for the car after it's completed? ... will it go down the road on sunny days? trailered to shows?
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Pat,
You should inquire about putting this in an auto museum somewhere - I can see many a car enthusiast appreciating your works for years, perhaps decades down the road.
What are your plans for the car after it's completed? ... will it go down the road on sunny days? trailered to shows?
I will drive it! I’m planning on taking it on the Hot Rod Power tour next June. That will put over 2000 miles on it and I’ll put another 1000 throughout the year. I put less then 3k a year on my daily driver as I only live about a mile from home
Thanks!
Pat
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You'll enjoy the power tour - that will be fun. They're meant to be driven and you've shown you can do just about everything so ... you'll have to give us a cost/time invested type summary when you've completed the car.
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I have been following this thread for awhile, there are no words to describe the work and dedication to detail you have put into her.
I'm sure she will be a sight to see when she is done and i hope i get to see her in person.
GREAT JOB....
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Pat............ holy CROW that thing is looking awesome! unreal man....... that car never saw this much attetion on the assembly line... thats the truth. better than original........ no question. I've got nothing else to say........... ;D
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Put the steering column in and ran into a stag as the new turn signal wiring harness won’t plug into the dash harness. I’ll look to pickup the right harness in Carlisle this weekend!
Pat
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I’ll look to pickup the right harness in Carlisle this weekend!
Hey Pat. Welcome to Carlisle.LOL. Glad you are going to make the trip. What days are you going to be here?
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I’m driving up Saturday with my two boys. Kurt is looking for a 68 fastback Mustang project car and I’m looking for a few T/A parts, and my oldest son is coming for the Italian sausages!
Pat
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I’m driving up Saturday with my two boys. Kurt is looking for a 68 fastback Mustang project car and I’m looking for a few T/A parts, and my oldest son is coming for the Italian sausages!
Pat
sounds like a fun ride home lol
hopefully with a new project in tow and some needed parts and best of some good memories
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Pat if you don't find one at Carlisle, you can get the GM signal harness adapter through GM dealers (and probably through auto parts stores also/got mine at O'Reilly's (GM part).
I like all the 0's on the odometer ;D ...that car is definitely getting a fresh start at life.
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I was able to remove the old turn signal harness plug and install it on the new turn signal harness. Good thing I saved the old parts!
Pat
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Quite the renaissance man
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You do electrical work too? SHEESH. ::) A man of many talents and very highly respected restorer AND a Hitman's Pick of the Month PROJECT.....and you didn't even get finished with it....and many of us have noticed your outstanding work already. This project just keep getting better every day.
Keep up the jaw dropping restoration Pat and Kurt. We like it!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Suprised he hasn't bought his own presses so he can make his own fenders ;) ;D
Gunner
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I think a small lynch mob would be at Pat's door if he ever decided to part with that car. :D
Everything's for sale! My favorite car is the next one;)
Pat
pat it's them very words i utter as my wife gets very upset. I was talking about possibly selling the y82 ta to have the proper funds to restore the 71 and she about flipped on me lol.
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Oh Master show me your ways
Grasshopper
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Pat, I have for the first time went through all the 30 pages of this...... OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!! I have my own dreams of restoring my 80 TA when I am in a financial place to do so. Mine will not be any where factory, but I would hope to be even half as attentive in the details. Great job!
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Pat, more outstanding work by you. It is so cool to see this project from begining to end. I know you still have some more time needed on this but, the end will be near soon.
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Installed the Pypes 2 ½” exhaust system I picked up in Carlisle, PA lasts weekend.
Kurt like using the cheep pipe cuter I bought to cut the exhaust to fit. Starting from the tail pipes I worked my way forward fitting the system and for the most part it fit great! One of the down pipes hangs about a 1” lower then the other side, so I’m planning on cutting it and having it re-flared, then I will weld it from the X pipe forward.
Thanks!
Pat
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pat, that car is rediculous. i'd be affraid just to put a finger print in the under body. smoking hot clean perfection. want to take on my 71 for me?
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Simply amazing!!! Pat you are my hero... your work leaves me speechless.
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As Charlie Brown would say: "Good Grief". That is stunning. No words to discribe it. Just amazing.
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I just read through all 31 pages, great work, much better than off the line
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Instead of having a muffler shop cut and re-flares the right side down pipe I cut a 1 1/8” section out and welded it. Now it level with the driver’s side.
Thanks!
Pat
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WOW Pat! Simply Amazing!
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Wow, that looks like you never cut it! Very nice work.
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Hey Pat are you going to put a heat treated steel coloured paint on the exhaust or are you leaving them bare for authentsity?
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Hey Pat are you going to put a heat treated steel coloured paint on the exhaust or are you leaving them bare for authentsity?
I'm not sure, as it is S/S I'll see how it holds up??
Thanks!
Pat
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There are no word's to describe this piece of " ART " you are creating...
Goes to show what hard work and dedication bring's. Thank's for sharing, It's by far the most detailed / documented resto, I've seen.
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I started restoring the fan shroud by fixing 3 cracks and 1 large chip. Using a plastic welding kit and a few polypropylene rods I was able to repair the cracks and chip. I just need to sand, prime, and paint it black and it will get bolted to the car. This plastic welding works great when you can match the plastic but you must use a respirator as it makes some bad smoke!
Pat
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Ok I didn't think I could be anymore impressed but you have done it. My dad has talked about plastic welding but I never gave it much thought.
Again...nice work
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Hey Pat are you going to put a heat treated steel coloured paint on the exhaust or are you leaving them bare for authentsity?
I'm not sure, as it is S/S I'll see how it holds up??
Thanks!
Pat
S/S...well you shouldn't have any issues. Was the wire you used on the flange S/S as well?
If so does it weld differently?
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Pat
Just sent a PM to Hitman about restoring the pictures at the front of this thread, and making it a sticky in the restoration section. This is THE thread that one restoring a car (ANY car, not just a T/A) should refer to when they want to do it RIGHT.
Gunner
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Pat
Just sent a PM to Hitman about restoring the pictures at the front of this thread, and making it a sticky in the restoration section. This is THE thread that one restoring a car (ANY car, not just a T/A) should refer to when they want to do it RIGHT.
Gunner
Gunner,
Thank You! I hope others checking this thread out find something that helps them with their project as I have in reading other members threads. It’s nice returning the favor.
Pat
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To be quite honest, I didn't even know there was such an animal as a plastic welding kit. Wish I would have known about it a few years ago.
Gunner
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I started recovering the right rear seat bottom and I added a decking fabric to take the place of the rusty steel rod, I used the same decking on my 68 Charger and it helps firm up the seat.
Pat
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Sand blasted and painted
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1st layer of burlap without the steel rods
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2nd layer of burlap ½” foam & decking fabric stitched together
As you can see by my stitching job that I’m still learning how to use the sewing machine
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2nd layer of foam
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3/4" cotton pad
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I think it looks great
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I noticed that you just used two layers of 1/2" foam along with the burlap, decking material and cotton but I didn't see any foam bun..
I've seen pics of early Firebirds interiors and thought the seat bottoms looked kind of flat. I thought the person that restored it just used the old crushed foam but now I'm wondering if they even used foam buns in the early birds like they did for the 76 or so and up. I know my 78 has them.
Did they use specific seat bottom(or seat back) foam buns in the 72's? If so, I assume that no one reproduces them or you'd have used those. Just curious/learning.....Looks great.
I've done springs, foam and covers before. It's not as hard as a lot of people perceive it to be. With the presewn upholstery kits available now, it's actually pretty easy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take away from what you've done. As I said, it looks great. I'm just suggesting that more guys should try it themselves. You've set a good example here. It could easily save them $500 by doing it themselves instead of paying an upholstery shop to do it. And most of us are looking for ways to trim costs in our restos.
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The early cars had no foam in backs or bottoms.
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I noticed that you just used two layers of 1/2" foam along with the burlap, decking material and cotton but I didn't see any foam bun..
I've seen pics of early Firebirds interiors and thought the seat bottoms looked kind of flat. I thought the person that restored it just used the old crushed foam but now I'm wondering if they even used foam buns in the early birds like they did for the 76 or so and up. I know my 78 has them.
Did they use specific seat bottom(or seat back) foam buns in the 72's? If so, I assume that no one reproduces them or you'd have used those. Just curious/learning.....Looks great.
I've done springs, foam and covers before. It's not as hard as a lot of people perceive it to be. With the presewn upholstery kits available now, it's actually pretty easy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take away from what you've done. As I said, it looks great. I'm just suggesting that more guys should try it themselves. You've set a good example here. It could easily save them $500 by doing it themselves instead of paying an upholstery shop to do it. And most of us are looking for ways to trim costs in our restos.
Randy,
No foam buns in the back seats on a 72 T/A, just a lot of the cotton stuff that the mice like to eat. I’m not sure when they started putting foam buns in the back seats?
I agree, recovering seats is easy & a great way to save some $$! This will my 4th car interior and I always do one seat at a time so I can use the other seat as a reference.
The only tool you need is a good spring loaded hog ring pliers. I also have a steamer that help with the winkles and the foam. With a few tools, some commonsense, and a lot of patients anyone can do it!
Thanks!
Pat
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Very nice work on the seats Pat, is there any thing you can't do?
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Was thinking the same thing....
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Very nice work on the seats Pat, is there any thing you can't do?
Obviously he can't do a bad job ;D Everything is simply fantastic on that car!
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I am speechless, is there anything that you cant do Pat???
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I am speechless, is there anything that you cant do Pat???
If you ask my wife she would say, cook, wash dishes, & laundry!:)
Thanks!
Pat
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Well at least we know Pat's limits now :)
Great job on the interior Pat!
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If you ask my wife she would say, cook, wash dishes, & laundry!:)
Thanks!
Pat
I think that if you ask all our wives they would all say the same thing. I know mine would.
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Yeah...
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I’ve been unable to find any rear sway bar bushings that fit the original mounts, so bought a set of 7/8” Energy Polyurethane bushings. I shaved about 1/16 off each side and I cut the ears off the new mounts and was able put the new parts in the original mount. Worked great and looks correct. I also finished welding the fan shroud and painted it.
I welded a 2” x 1” corner and it’s strong enough to pick the shroud up by!
Thanks!
Pat
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Plastic welders are cool. I bought one about 15 years ago and havent used it much but it sure saved my butt more then once. The project looks awesome. Any idea when it will hit the road?
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As I have said many times before...Pat, you amaze me! I love that plastic welder, I will have one on my Christmas list for sure!
Bill
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Plastic welders are cool. I bought one about 15 years ago and havent used it much but it sure saved my butt more then once. The project looks awesome. Any idea when it will hit the road?
I started this project thinking it would be on the road in 14 months based on how long it took to restore my 68 Charger. Right now I’m shooting for spring but hoping for January, making it 2 years to restore this car.The difference between the two cars is I did not realize how hard it is to restore a car 100 % original (ok 99%) as opposed to a custom car.
Thanks!
Pat
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Well worth the wait once you get behind the wheel
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Well worth the wait. Your car is amazing Pat!
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Much better then a 4 month rattle-can resto! Great lookin H.O!
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I want to see a list of what's left ... it's got to be getting real close Pat, right? Are you planning a big reveal, party, free beer to the neighbors/78ta members that roll up?
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I want to see it done before December.
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I'm just wanting a reason to drink beer. Typically, nothing is required by Pat's car is grounds for celebration. No worries, I won't be driving it ;)
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I won't be driving it ;)
Sure you wont
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I want to see a list of what's left ... it's got to be getting real close Pat, right? Are you planning a big reveal, party, free beer to the neighbors/78ta members that roll up?
The garage refrigerator is always filled with beer for anyone who rolls up in a Pontiac! As for what’s left to do, the big jobs are the front seats, mounting the fenders, bumper, & hood, Striping the car, and the door glass. But as we all know the little detail jobs take all the time!
Thanks!
Pat
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How much does the young, enthusiastic help charge? ;)
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How much does the young, enthusiastic help charge? ;)
He helps me for free, hoping I will help him buy a 68 Mustang! But having Kurt in the garage is priceless!
Pat
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Pat from where do u hail.
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Pat from where do u hail.
Edgewater, MD just south of Annapolis.
Pat
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How much does the young, enthusiastic help charge? ;)
He helps me for free, hoping I will help him buy a 68 Mustang! But having Kurt in the garage is priceless!
Pat
For father/son time, it don't get better then that. :)
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I’ve been working on my warped lower door panels; weld some cracks and chips and heating the warps out. The problem is a day or two later the warps would start to come back. After heating the warps out again I clamped an l angle along the top to help hold the edge straight and added a fiber glass a 1”x ¼” reinforcement on the inside to hold it straight. I hope this holds when the car is in the sun with the windows up???
Pat
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Put a foam strip down dam-up the top edge to hold the fiber glass
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After welding in a chip along the top edge I used a dremel to match the grain on the panel
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Painted and ready to install.
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Wow, you really do have mad skills. Can't wait to see the car in person!
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I didnt know you could do that, great job.
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I suddely began feeling I was watching a storyboard of Young Frankenstien Jr.. pat your abilities never fail to amaze me... If you would put your skill toward being a surgeon.. HOLY COW, MAN... I bow to your excellance. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-gen053.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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great job and there are always repros if it dont hold up
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Nice work again Pat, you are the man.
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Last week Kurt & I built a new work bench upstairs in the garage. You can never have enough work benches!
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This week Kurt & I started on the front seats, removing the old covers, sand blasting the frames & tracks, painting the fames & tracks the color of bare steel (Eastwood Detail Gray) Then we use a steamer and a ice pick to help put some life into the original foam cushions. So far the new covers fit great!
Pat
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The only painted parts originally was just two of the springs & the bottom legs of the back
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I also use a yellow/tan colored plastic paint on the exposed part of the original seat foam to hide the discoloring of time, worked & lokks great!
(Krylon Fusion #2334 Buttercream)
Pat
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Very nice Pat.
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Pat.. from my calculations you dont have very far to go to complete the car... when are we going to get to see the unvailing of this magnificent piece of art work you have been doing.... Im about as eager to see your completed car as Ralphie was to open his Red Rider BB Gun
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Pat..Im about as eager to see your completed car as Ralphie was to open his Red Rider BB Gun
lol. Me too! soon!
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One down and one to go!
Pat
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Nice looking, heh...
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Hey Pat...how long before you write the book "Rebuild Your T/A one part at a time"?
I want the first available issue when it does...
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I'd like that book too :P Great looking car :) I love that T\A :)
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Pat...
no updates for awhile!!!
What gives?
I'm having withdrawls
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I doubt it! It's been constantly raining here in Maryland unless there's less rain closer to the pond where pat is.
But yeah, I agree, I'm still waiting for an update!
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I think he's driving it by now. ;D
I wish I could drive it! I’m still working away at it, just a little slower. Was out of town for a few days, took the family down to Dallas to see the Cowboys play on Thanksgiving. The new stadium is awesome! And my wife, boys, & I had a great time! I’ll have some update soon.
Thanks!
Pat
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I think he's driving it by now. ;D
I wish I could drive it! I’m still working away at it, just a little slower. Was out of town for a few days, took the family down to Dallas to see the Cowboys play on Thanksgiving. The new stadium is awesome! And my wife, boys, & I had a great time! I’ll have some update soon.
Thanks!
Pat
I have seen three games at the new stadium. Two Dallas games and one college game. All I can say is Awesome!!! and what a screen! The first time I was there I watched the screen more than the game I thought. haha
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Pat, think I can stop by some time and see your car ?
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Pat, think I can stop by some time and see your car ?
Sure you can stop by anytime I'm out in the garage most weeknights and weekends. Just PM me a day or two before.
Thanks!
Pat
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I finished restoring all the seat frames and installing the seat covers. The back of the back seat was the last piece. It was to big to fit in my sand blasting cabinet so I had to wire brush it by hand, for the most part it was just light rust. Like the other seat frames I painted it with Eastwoods Detail Gray which looks just like bare steel. I was able to reuse the thin steel rods that were weaved through the old stained burlap. Install them through a new piece of burlap that I stitch up like the old piece. Cutting the hog ring and using the hog ring pliers are a pain in my forearms and I’m happy to put them away until the next car (Kurt’s 68 Mustang)
Pat
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nice i wish i had the time and talent
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It's looking good Pat, you continuously amaze me with your skills.
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Absolutely Gorgeous.
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Wow! As always....amazing! I know this is a Trans Am website, but I would love to see the Mustang restoration on here as well! I admire your work!
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wondering ... whill spring be the time frame that "Lucy" hits the highway? I cant imagine the hours you have in this restoration Pat... I can tell its and Obsesive love...
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Man Oh man. This car is going to be better then new. Now you really know that everything was done to your liking. I would like to see this in person.
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wondering ... whill spring be the time frame that "Lucy" hits the highway? I cant imagine the hours you have in this restoration Pat... I can tell its and Obsesive love...
Virgil,
It will be two years the end of the month that I have own this car and IT WILL BE READY THIS SPRING!
Thanks!
Pat
PS I hope lol.
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Very nice Pat, are you bringing it to the Nationals next year?
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Very nice Pat, are you bringing it to the Nationals next year?
Rich,
Kurt & I are planning on it!
Thanks!
Pat
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The back seats look very nice, great work, Pat!
We'll have to arrange a carvan to the Nationals next year for the Maryland boys
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Carvan to the Nationals would be great!
Just a small project tonight, I wet sanded, polished, taped and painted the fender vents screens.
Pat
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how the heck do you polish soming that small?
Dremel?
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Pat, fender vent screens look great!
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:o Looks like a very good reason to attend the Nat's next year! ;)
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how the heck do you polish soming that small?
Dremel?
I wet sanded from 800 to 3000 then used a small air die grinder with a 3M Roloc pad assembly and a cool 3” foam waffle pad to compound & polish.
Thanks!
Pat
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Wow - good tips. You should write a restoration book.
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Wow - good tips. You should write a restoration book.
That's what I've been saying!!!
thanks Pat figured it was something like that
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Pat..Nice touch to the fender vent screens.
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thats an awsome setup in the kitchen
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nice tip I didnt wet sand mine for not being creative enough in such the matter.
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I started on the center console today. The original console was to beat up to restore so I removed most of the steel mounting bracket and put them in place of the plastic mounts that come with the new OER console. Then I found some truss-head machine screws that have the same size head as the ribbits on the sides of the console that hold the brackets. I use some bondo to fill the slot on the screw and painted them black. After painting the console blue I installed the screws/ribbits as I think they should be black not the color of the console.
Pat
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you have got to be kidding me? lol wow
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can't you get small carriage bolts like that?
Wow that's some great work...I love your inovation!!
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Pat, I wish I had known you needed some black painted head semi tubular rivets. I have a bag of them here that I use for one of the items I build and sell. I'd have sent you what you needed. Still will if you want them.
Looks nice as usual.
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Pat, I wish I had known you needed some black painted head semi tubular rivets. I have a bag of them here that I use for one of the items I build and sell. I'd have sent you what you needed. Still will if you want them.
Looks nice as usual.
Randy,
Thank you for the offer! Next T/A I’ll may take you up on that offer.
Pat
can't you get small carriage bolts like that?
Wow that's some great work...I love your inovation!!
Charlie, I had no luck finding small carriage bolts but it sound like Randy has the right rivits for the job.
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Awesome work as usual, very nice!
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Pat, you amaze me every time I read this post! Great work!
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fwiw, I found the correct size carriage bolts when I did mine at ACE hardware, they were a little long but otherwise perfect fit and look.
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fwiw, I found the correct size carriage bolts when I did mine at ACE hardware, they were a little long but otherwise perfect fit and look.
Funny, I bought the hardware at Ace. They have a great fastener department but the smallest carriage bolt they had was 10-24 sound like your Ace carries 8-32 carriage bolts which would be a quicker fix!
Thanks!
Pat
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Pat, You inspire me every time I look at this thread to do more then I want to. Thank you!
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Anyone have a picture of how the factory cut the carpet around an auto shifter??
Thanks for any help!
Pat
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Not a great one but here ya go.
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Is that the original carpet?
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As fas as I could tell, Yes it was. Was nasty too
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I think that was ripped there. Laid down it was a straighter cut across the front of the shifter.
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Gotta give the help to get the help. My pleasure!
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That looks just like the shape of the shifter hole in the carpet I just took out of a 78 TA that I believe to have been original.
Your 72 may use a piece of vynil on the rear hump between the rear seats. If not (and for anyone else installing carpet in a 78 or so TA).......
One piece of advice regarding installing new one piece carpet. START by making SURE that the carpet is positioned so that it reaches back under the rear seatback at the hump !!!! DO NOT start by positioning the carpet at the front. You may come up short at the rear edge. Ask me how I know.......... :-[
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It looks like mid 70s T/A had one piece carpet, or is it I just can’t see the seam? The 72 has two pieces of carpet. Thanks for all the input guys!
Pat
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Mine was one piece.
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Props Pat !!!!! Words just can't describe this restoration... :o
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my 81 carpet was 1 peice..
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The original steering wheel had cracks and holes in the foam and the spokes were faded. After test trying a few different ways to restore the foam I got the best results using SEM #39708 Flexible sem-weld to repair the foam & Krylon Fusion satin black plastic paint for color. As for the spokes, paint would start to fill the brushed aluminum and it looked like paint not anodized aluminum. So I tried a fat Sharpie permanent marker and used it like a brush in the same direction as the brushed aluminum spokes and it look like black anodizing. All the materials are easy to use and work with, I’ll let you know how it holds up???
Pat
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What a differance.. Look's great, Would of never thought about the sharpie.
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Honestly, how do you even think of those things? I'm really impressed and curious to see how it will hold up... the foam should be fine but I'm curious about the sharpie and whether it will rub off.
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I know it sounds a little hokey, so much so I wasn’t going say how or what I used. But the color & finish looked so original and it was so easy (two coats 1hr between) I had to pass on the info. It will not rub off with casual contact and I tested Groits Garage int cleaner as well with on rub off, however if you had some type of solvent on your hands or a rag, yes it would rub off quicker then paint. Unlike paint the marker is an easy touch up!
Thanks!
Pat
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amazing work once again....this tread blows my mind everytime i look at it....keepat, how do you think of this stuff???? blows me away.......that car is gona be one of the nicest T/A's on the planet!!!!
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How did you apply SEM-WELD, finger, brush, smooth edge?
Did you sand it after?
What grit if you did?
I have been wrakcing by brain trying to figure out how I would do it.
Was going to get it wraped in black leather but that is really costly around here
Looks great and what a great idea
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How did you apply SEM-WELD, finger, brush, smooth edge?
Looks great and what a great idea
I used a plastic putty knife and my finger on some spots. It sets fast so you have to do a little at a time.
Thanks!
Pat
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Sorry to a PIA but did you sand it afterwards?
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Sorry to a PIA but did you sand it afterwards?
I used 180 on the high spots and switched to 320 between coats of sem-weld. Tape off and stay away from the stitching!
Pat
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Right on...Thanks
Oh and
MERRY X-MAS to you and your family
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Right on...Thanks
Oh and
MERRY X-MAS to you and your family
Charlie/78ta,
Merry Christmas to you & yours as well as all here at 78ta!
Thanks for all the kind words and help over the last two years!
Pat
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I restored the horn button to finish the steering wheel. The plastic center has some little cracks but its original so I polished & reused it.
Pat
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looks amazing
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no that's something , I like that. to take the time to restore a side of a part that you never see. amazing.
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Still looking more amazing. so now that you are down to the "little"details does that mean you can post some pics of the car the way it sits now? How near the finish line are you?
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Pat's a week away ;) It was going to be wrapped up by the end of 2009 as I recall. Just kidding ...no need to rush perfection.
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The holdup is I’m having the doors repainted as I was not happy with the top edge were the S/S trim attaches. I should have the doors back next week??? Tomorrow will be two years since I bought this car and at the time I was thinking it would take 18 months to restore it, and here we are 24 months and counting.
Thanks!
Pat
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The problem is ,what are you going to do with yourself once the restoration is done? :D
The holdup is I’m having the doors repainted as I was not happy with the top edge were the S/S trim attaches. I should have the doors back next week??? Tomorrow will be two years since I bought this car and at the time I was thinking it would take 18 months to restore it, and here we are 24 months and counting.
Thanks!
Pat
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Build another one i hope!!!!! keepat, if u get too bored you can come to Maine!theres plenty to be done on my 81!! lol. just kidding... amazing work as usual...i would never think to restore the back of my horn button.....
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That's incredible - what did you use on the black face of the cap to get such a nice smooth finish?
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That's incredible - what did you use on the black face of the cap to get such a nice smooth finish?
I used 3000 grit sand paper & plastic polish on the center cap. It’s actually clear with the bird & black paint on the back and silver around the edge that you can’t see.
Thanks!
Pat
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Sanded by hand? What polish? The GF's BMW X5 has pillars that look similar to clear plastic that have oxidation on them ... if I clear that off, I'm her hero.
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Sanded by hand? What polish? The GF's BMW X5 has pillars that look similar to clear plastic that have oxidation on them ... if I clear that off, I'm her hero.
Yes by hand and the polish is by Novus www.novuspolish.com good luck!
Pat
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That's incredible - what did you use on the black face of the cap to get such a nice smooth finish?
I used 3000 grit sand paper & plastic polish on the center cap. It’s actually clear with the bird & black paint on the back and silver around the edge that you can’t see.
Thanks!
Pat
Actually each and every one of us has plexi glass polish in there home ,at least I hope so (well maybe not the British)
I used to do alot of car audio mods using plexi and lexan ,and low and behold I was told tooth paste was a great polish .
It worked great for me .I used toothpaste that had the paste look to it ,not the gel , and a cotten rag .After removing the plexi from tthe router table , I sanded the side of the plexi with 240 ,then I used the rag and tooth paste and it came out clear as can be . Takes a little elbow grease though
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Didn’t get much complete today just the interior door pulls. The original chrome mount polished up like new! Sunday football and working on the car is a great day!
Pat
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I have never seen anyone so conscientious about every little detail ,Pat do you have OCD ? :o
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OT/AD
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OCD No! and to prove it I’m not going to wash my hands for the next 10 minutes ::)
OT/AD maybe a little ;D
Pat
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OCD No! and to prove it I’m not going to wash my hands for the next 10 minutes ::)
:D :D :D :D
I don't think Pat has OCD, he's simply doing a correct restoration the way they should be done...amd doing an excellent job of it.
Great work Pat!
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OCD No! and to prove it I’m not going to wash my hands for the next 10 minutes ::)
:D :D :D :D
I don't think Pat has OCD, he's simply doing a correct restoration the way they should be done...amd doing an excellent job of it.
Great work Pat!
Yes thats probably the most amazing thing I have ever seen . I wish I had that ability ,but I coudn't remember how to put all those itsy bitsy pieces back together again lol
I was wondering what your occupation is Pat. I was thinking you worked at the GM plant?
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GEEEEEEEZZZ. You should have your own "HOW TO" series. I have to see this car in person. No doubt its going to be on many shows and magazines if your not a shy kinda guy.
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If I read correctly way back in this thread somewhere, He works for a yacht sales company.
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KeePat , I hope mine comes out half as nice as yours. well maybe a bit more then half. nice work bro.
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Great work Pat! Like always keep up the amazing work on your car!
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GEEEEEEEZZZ. You should have your own "HOW TO" series. I have to see this car in person. No doubt its going to be on many shows and magazines if your not a shy kinda guy.
Justin that is actaully a really clever idea . To bad they didn't do a reality tv program on Pat and his T/A .It would actually be the only decent reality tv series out there :D
And at 60 thousand a show (thats what the going rate is I think) ,look at all the extra T/A's Pat could buy !
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GEEEEEEEZZZ. You should have your own "HOW TO" series. I have to see this car in person. No doubt its going to be on many shows and magazines if your not a shy kinda guy.
Justin that is actaully a really clever idea . To bad they didn't do a reality tv program on Pat and his T/A .It would actually be the only decent reality tv series out there :D
And at 60 thousand a show (thats what the going rate is I think) ,look at all the extra T/A's Pat could buy !
Yeah seriously. I wish everything was recorded and made into a weekley show. Even the weekend shows dont have the quality that this car is going to have. They do alot of nice work but rarely do they worry about every detail on their "resto"rebuilds.
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Next car I’ll video each step and post links to Youtube, not! It would take 5 years to do the same car.lol
Last night I installed the shifter and the interior rear side panels & sail panels
Thanks!
Pat
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Stunning job Pat!
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that interior is nice. Looks compfy
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It's really starting to ake shape now. This is the fun part.
I'm anxious to see how that steering wheel grip repair holds up as mine has a spot that could use some touch up.
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Panels and steering came beautiful, Pat
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Next car I’ll video each step and post links to Youtube, not! It would take 5 years to do the same car.lol
Last night I installed the shifter and the interior rear side panels & sail panels
Thanks!
Pat
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What's the silver metel box under the window?
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Next car I’ll video each step and post links to Youtube, not! It would take 5 years to do the same car.lol
Last night I installed the shifter and the interior rear side panels & sail panels
Thanks!
Pat
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What's the silver metel box under the window?
Charlie,
That's part of the fuel vent system that was use only for a few years on early Pontiac's.
Pat
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Hmm...interesting!
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Charlie,
That's part of the fuel vent system that was use only for a few years on early Pontiac's.
Pat
It was also used on 68-72 A bodies, Buick, Olds, Pont and Chevys.
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See...you do learn something everyday!!
Thanks
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i LOVE that blue interior! i was always a fan of that color
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I installed the radiator, fan shroud, and condenser assembly along with a few other bits & pieces on the core support, New Year’s Day. Pat
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I was able to use the original condenser mounting bracket in place of the new ones on the new condenser.
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The new front light wiring harness didn’t come with the Split loom so I installed new split loom and reused the original unions I found some plastic clip that with a few cuts look like the originals
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The original hood latch that was restored by Bill Oxley & Craig aka Norwood
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The original charcoal fuel vent system cleaned up nice
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The rearview mirror also cleaned up nice. I hope to have my side mirror back from the engraver with the date code this week?
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Pat, the only part of my car that is a nice as yours is the hood latch.......LOL
Over the top QUALITY on this one. I hope that I get a chance to see it someday.
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Truly a top notch work... is the brake booster and master cylinder cap painted or is it plated? I don't seem to see the green/reddish tint that plating would have
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Pat, did Bill do you booster and cover?
Sir, the proper plating for a 72 is cadmium and it is much softer than the Zinc that was used starting in 73.The internal parts on Pats hood latch are Cadmium . I have done latches with both Cad and Zinc, the cad still has the tint but is much softer than the zinc.
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Craig, & SirTA,
Yes Bill Oxley rebuilt and replated the original booster as well as a few other items for me and all of his work is 1st class!
Thanks!
Pat
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I hear ya Hammer, I'm as well, am eager to see.. Kurt & Pat You at least gotta do a video of the car when you run her down the road under her own power for the first time..
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I am just waiting for the Avatar to change.....then I know the job is finished and then I can stop this drooling problem on my keyboard.
I had to push mine back at arms length!!!
Drool hits my lap now!!
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Pat I know I sound like a broken record, but you do great work. The car is coming along nicely.
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Pat I know I sound like a broken record, but you do great work. The car is coming along nicely.
haha...I haven't said anything in a while because all I can say is...WOW!!! over and over
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It took a few week to get all the parts together but tonight I finished the out side bullet mirrors.
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Carefully I use a putty knife to remove the original scratched up mirrors. No problem as they are just held on with 4 small dabs of silicone.
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I cleaned & painted all the stuff you’ll never see and noted some color markings on the remote cables that I tried to duplicate.
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The replacement mirrors from OER were too big so I had my brother who runs a glass shop sand them down to match the old ones. Then I had the local engraver laser the date code. They used one of the original mirrors to test and match the size & font.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAmirror032.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAmirror035.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAmirror046.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAmirror063.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAmirror065.jpg)
Pat
PS My brother’s shop broke the one mirror not me!
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Very nice.
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that was cool
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Thanks for the update. Great job
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Thanks for documenting all of this! You do GREAT work, and its serving as an inspiration to get my car going!
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..... only one word to say....
AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow... your work is realy great !!
Greetings from Germany
Juergen
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Does your son work cheap? I know I can't afford you! LOL. Looks great as always.
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I am just waiting for the Avatar to change.....then I know the job is finished and then I can stop this drooling problem on my keyboard.
whatever- you know you'll just find another project to drool over ;)
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I have all the door window hardware and tracks ready and I should have my doors back from the painter tomorrow.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows001.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows018.jpg)
Some before pictures
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows017.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows003.jpg)
Tracks & and hardware cleaned, & painted along with new window rollers
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows012.jpg)
The new door glass is a great match from the shape, hole placement, & original etched labels
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows009.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows010.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows011.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows015.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows005.jpg)
This is the orientation of the window hardware and a cool little tool to remove & install the hardware. The new window rollers are from NPD as they are the only supplier I could find who sold them.
Pat
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Looks nice :)
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Did the little tool come fron NPD as well or did you have to look elsewhere for that
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Did the little tool come fron NPD as well or did you have to look elsewhere for that
Charlie,
Yes the window guide roller tool is from NPD www.nationalpartsdepot.com part # C-T13
Thanks!
Pat
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The rollers you got from NPD...did you get the other black plastic isolators from there as well. Thanks
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Just the rollers are new; I reused all the original plastic isolators & hardware. Fortunately all my plastic isolators were in great condition just needed a good cleaning as I haven’t seen them repro yet??
Pat
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looking good Pat. has the car been started yet or no?
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pat, depending on which plant and or month your car was built, you have purchased o.e. door glass. LOF (pilkington) is oe for gm mainly in norwood and ppg now pgw was typically for van nuys. nice tool I have one that looks similar but its all one unit. glad to see you went through the trouble of new hardware as this is an area most people tend to forget about doing. but for me for some odd reason its a main focal point.
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looking good Pat. has the car been started yet or no?
Not yet, all the fluids toped off just need to prime the oil system and on the next warm weekend I start her up!
Thanks!
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pat, depending on which plant and or month your car was built, you have purchased o.e. door glass. LOF (pilkington) is oe for gm mainly in norwood and ppg now pgw was typically for van nuys. nice tool I have one that looks similar but its all one unit. glad to see you went through the trouble of new hardware as this is an area most people tend to forget about doing. but for me for some odd reason its a main focal point.
It's a 12B Norwood car, and you are right it's all the little details that most people never see that I enjoy looking for at car shows.
Thanks!
Pat
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Did the little tool come fron NPD as well or did you have to look elsewhere for that
Charlie,
Yes the window guide roller tool is from NPD www.nationalpartsdepot.com part # C-T13
Thanks!
Pat
Thanks Pat...I'm just getting cought up ;D
I'm usually quite disapointed at the car shows around here because people take short cuts and try to hide stuff and i'm the kind of guy to look for those details.
There are very few cars in Sudbury that take my breath away with craftsmanship
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I finished the door latch rods but I’m unable to find the fabric tube for the door latch rod, any suggestions?
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff001.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff005.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff006.jpg)
This is the fabric tube I’m looking for.
Thanks!
Pat
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did you check out the aircraft industry for something
It may not be the same but I remember my dad having some of this stuff at his Hanger or at least something that looked like it
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maybe some nylon braided cable sleeving, like this
http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/ExpandableSleeving.php
looks like it comes in white also
or better yet:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Door-Rod-Sleeving-All-mopar-charger-gtx-cuda-challenger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c06e62e96QQitemZ120374832790QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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dfred,
Awesome find! The ebay mopor link looks like it's close to the right stuff.
Thank You!
Pat
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Looks good! Indeed, the mopar stuff on ebay looks like it's the right one.
Did you get your doors re-painted yet?
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Looks good! Indeed, the mopar stuff on ebay looks like it's the right one.
Did you get your doors re-painted yet?
Yes! I pick them up tomorrow!
Thank!
Pat
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well you could always go to the junkyard, most new cars have the same stuff on them ?
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I received the mopar door rod sleeve and it’s similar to the original sleeve, and after I painted it with the red oxide it look very similar. Thanks again dfred for the ebay link!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows020.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows022.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAwindows026.jpg)
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Here's a question for ya Pat!!
Did the other sleeves start out life being white and got dirty over time or were they red primer in colour to start with?
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Charlie,
It’s my understanding that most of the parts in the doors on Norwood cars were dipped into a red oxide filled tank attached to the body.
Pat
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I received the mopar door rod sleeve and it’s similar to the original sleeve, and after I painted it with the red oxide it look very similar. Thanks again dfred for the ebay link!
Pat
cool, glad it worked out, wow some quick shipping to you too.
looks good
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hmm... Now would this hold true for the later gen T/A's or was that changed to black in 79 I wonder
Thanks Pat
I still say there should be a book when your done with all this info!!
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I have two different under the steering column air duct and I’m not sure which one is correct for a 72 T/A? Installed you can’t see the different but I would like to use the right one. Also how thick is the foam gasket for the small port to the column vent? I cut one out of 1/8” foam but should it be ¼”???
Thanks for any help!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAairduck003.jpg)
I think the bottom one is the right one?
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAairduck006.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAairduck010.jpg)
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Again Im just lost in the detail your putting into your 72. your progress is turning into an addiction to me ( and other members here) Wish I was closer to witness the fire up date you have for this car... I would have a box of cigars on stand by....lol.
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Pat, as Virgil said. it's turning into an addiction for me. as these car keep getting older and older. and harder and harder to find a correct nut and bolts cars. it is good to see yours and others on here, will see another 40 years. just the way it rolled off the GM line. very nice work.
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same here..... it seems i pay more attention to yours than i do mine lately....... i can watch your progress for free....... mine would take funds no longer available to me.... ;) lookin awesome Pat!
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Thanks Virgil, Doug, & Brad for your kind words!
Color sanded and polished my doors and mounted them a few days ago. This morning I rust-proofed the inside of the door with the same sticky stuff you see dripping out of the bottom of new car doors. Also installed the new door latches but I’m not sure if the 3 screws that hold the latch should be painted or unpainted? I think unpainted but I have a set of each.
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors004.jpg)
Before color sanding
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors010.jpg)
After polishing
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors001.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors002.jpg)
Just need to touchup the paint on the hinge bolts
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors003.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors014.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors017.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors018.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors021.jpg)
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(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors022.jpg)
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You'll be driving her soon eh?
Coming together nice
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Cool shot of the latch from the inside... it always takes me ten shots to find one with the right focus on closeups/tight shots.
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Nice detailed Pic's ...Stunning !
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get it done already pat.
its sure looking good though
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I removed the door latch and painted all but the striker red oxide and reinstalled it with blue screws. I not sure if I’m going to go back and airbrush the striker blue or not? I hope to put the drives side glass in today after I dig out 26” of snow off 240’ of driveway, fun!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors002-1.jpg)
New door handle & lock beside the ones, nice job on the repros.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors004-1.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors009.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors021-1.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors018-1.jpg)
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All I can say is "wow". This entire thread is just incredible! Nice work Pat :)
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Outstanding work Pat, cant wait to see her all done.
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Looks good Pat,
You may already have done this but you may want to consult your chassis service manual and lube those moving parts on the handle/lock mechanisms. It would be a shame to get it all back together and have the door handle to lock/unlock rod squeak and have to take the door panel off again.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors021-1.jpg)
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Randy,
Thanks, After the glass is in I'll go back and lubricate all the working parts as the window tracks will need lube as well.
Thanks!
Pat
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Great job Pat. The car is coming along.
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only 240 ft driveway? ours is a thousand feet :(
It's looking good pat, awesome attention to detail as usual
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Polished the top of the door trim and installed it with some new and some original plastic clips. The new clips are just a tad smaller then the original clips and it was nice having the two sizes to adjust the fit. I used some tape at each end of the door to prevent scratching the paint.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors031.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors032.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors034.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors046.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors058.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors060.jpg)
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so THAT'S what those clips are for! I have a bunch in one of my boxes and never knew what they were. Never had a car with that trim but have collected parts from just about everywhere.
As usual lookin good Pat!
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x2 on all accounts
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Pat,
can you be so kind to give a part number for those clips. I have noticed that the trim on my T/A is coming loose and I have been trying to find them in some of my supplier books but cant seem to locate them.
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Pat,
can you be so kind to give a part number for those clips. I have noticed that the trim on my T/A is coming loose and I have been trying to find them in some of my supplier books but cant seem to locate them.
I'm not Pat ;) but Pete carries these:
http://www.fbodywarehouse.com/fbw/product.php?productid=320&cat=0&page=1
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Pat,
can you be so kind to give a part number for those clips. I have noticed that the trim on my T/A is coming loose and I have been trying to find them in some of my supplier books but cant seem to locate them.
I'm not Pat ;) but Pete carries these:
http://www.fbodywarehouse.com/fbw/product.php?productid=320&cat=0&page=1
Works for me.. thanks Jeff
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Virgil,
I bought them online I think at some ebay store, maybe Camaro Central?? I'll look it up and PM you the link.
I spent over an hour putting the driver’s side mirror on. You would think it would just screw on, not! After tweaking the bracket and opening up the holes in the base gasket it fits great. I’m not sure who was the 1st auto maker to design & use bullet mirrors painted to match the car? But I think this size & shape is the best looking mirrors on any car.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors061.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors062.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors077.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors081.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors082.jpg)
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Excellent work Pat, you never cease to amaze me :o
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Wonder how much time you have..Just on the documentation, pic's. etc
Looking Nice by the way..
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After reading the service manual on installing the door glass which wasn’t very helpful. I thought I would post some step by step directions & pictures to help the next guy that has disassembled his car years ago and can’t remember how it go back together.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff017.jpg)
Starting with a properly align door, install the outside door handle, lock, latch assembly, and both the inside latch rod & the lock latch rod.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff019.jpg)
Most of the window track & crank mechanism are installed before the car is dipped in red oxide. The back track which is silver was installed after the glass at the factory as to leave room for the window guide bolted to the glass.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff020.jpg)
I greased up all the tracks & gears on the crank. I’m not sure what the factory used so I used wheel bearing grease.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff021.jpg)
The 1st part to get installed was the front track. Note temporary bolt it in as to leave as much room for the glass & guide to fit.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff022.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff023.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff025.jpg)
Then the crank mechanism is installed through the large hole in the center of the door.
Note wheel the crank to about the center of the gear.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff028.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff027.jpg)
Next swing the small inward pointing roller up to the opening just above the large hole and slide the short track over the small roller and into position. The aft end has a just a small hole for a bolt.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff029.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff032.jpg)
The front of the track has a vertical slot for adjustment.
Note you should see marks from the original bolt position that will help get the adjustment close.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff033.jpg)
Next I installed the small felt covered window pad at top front end of the door.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff034.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff036.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff037.jpg)
Then bolt on the glass stop at the lowest position and put a piece of wood about the size of a 2x3 on top of the glass stop. This help hole the glass at the right height to bolt the window crank track on.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff038.jpg)
Now’s the time to tape the inside & outside top edges of the door to protect the Paint & glass.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff041.jpg)
Align the front window guide with the front track and carefully slide the window down to the 2x3 piece of wood on the glass stop.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff042.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff043.jpg)
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(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff055.jpg)
Next install the mounting bracket for the aft track, Just start the bolt as to leave room to put the track in. now slide the aft track down and over the aft window guide and bolt it up. Note the marks again to help get the fit closes.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff045.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff046.jpg)
With both tracks in but loose, install the long horizontal track to the bottom of the glass. The 2x3 wood should hold the glass at just at the right height to access the track mounts and install the nuts. Note the end with the tab welded on, mounts forward with the tab down.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff048.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff049.jpg)
Roll the window up about a 1” or 2” and remove both the wood and the glass stop. Roll the window down until the guide is about to come out of the bottom of the track. Note hold the glass at the top as to not scratch the paint or glass even with the tape emplace. Now you can install the outer glass channel weather-strip. (1st clip on belt trim if so equipped) With the window extra low you can install the screws for the weather-striping. Then roll window up and reinstall the glass stop so the window is just under the outer weather-striping. Next with the window down install the 3 door panel retainers (2 are felt padded & the forward 1 is not) Also install the door gasket at this time, you will need it installed to help adjust the window fit.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff033.jpg)
To help get a start on fitting the glass to the opening tighten the top of the tracks at the old marks. Note this controls the top of the window in & out.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff055.jpg)
The two bolts at the back track control the glass front to back.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff030.jpg)
The short track helps control the angle of the window front to back.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff056.jpg)
And at the top of both tracks there are guide stops that need to be installed & adjusted to set the height of the window in the up position.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoorstuff053.jpg)
As for getting the window adjusted take your time and close the door slow!
I’m sure there are other ways but this worked for me and I hope it helps others!
Pat
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Excellent post . Thank you for sharing this one. Beautiful
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This will be a great help Pat...Thank-you
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I order a drives door decal with my Vin# and the weight of the car. As there was no decal on the door when I bought the car I had no reference for the weight. What the seller used for the weight seems high? Anyone know if this is the correct weight?
Thanks!
Pat
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Hi Pat, I'm quessing that would be very close if not correct. I just when and looked at my 78 TA parts car and it is 4693 and my other 79 TA doors I have say 4720. I would assume that your 72 might weight alittle more than the later years. ???
P.S. AWSOME CAR! ;)
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Man this whole thread needs to be put into a how to book.
Gunner
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I agree with Gunner.
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I color sanded & polished the right fender and installed the side vent. I had to use a few washers on the bottom studs to get a flush fit with the fender. Also installed the inter wheel well before hanging the fender on the car as per NJSteve’s method worked great. Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfender004.jpg)
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Sweet.. I hope I get to see this car in person one day. So have you named her yet
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Looks sweet, did you have both the fenders installed or only the RH one is on now?
Too bad you weren't closer to Frederick so I could come check it out! Defiently will when you complete it though.
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Sweet.. I hope I get to see this car in person one day. So have you named her yet
No name for the car as my wife might be suspicious to all the late nights in the garage. Lol
Pat
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Looks sweet, did you have both the fenders installed or only the RH one is on now?
Too bad you weren't closer to Frederick so I could come check it out! Defiently will when you complete it though.
Just the right side as I need to color sand the left fender
Thanks!
Pat
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Sweet.. I hope I get to see this car in person one day. So have you named her yet
No name for the car as my wife might suspicious to all the late nights in the garage. Lol
Pat
LOL... :D
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Wow. This is trully phenomenal work. And with HASA-levels of cleanliness, too! Great work. Reading this thread is always an inspiration.
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I hung the left fender and align it with the door, no chips or scratches and it fit great! I hope to get the nose on today after I color sand & polish it.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfender047.jpg)
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The car is absolutely amazing. You must be getting anxious getting so close to the end.
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DANG !!! your on a roll now.. shouldnt be too much longer and your be rolling on the streets.... front nose, hood, spoilers, decals and you should be there.
SUPERB job you have been doing.
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2 years of hard work has made a big difference...great work
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/DisassemblingTransAm065.jpg)
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Sweet Pat.
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Was that a scratch I saw!!!
oh sorry, I was looking at the before picture ;D
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definitely a head turner. cant wait to see her in person.
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wow! beautiful work! I would have given both my TA's to have the car you started with and now it's even better, I don't know what to say now lol ;D
now that I notice the hemi badge on the charger I have to ask is it a real hemi car? ???
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oooo it's getting close! Almost time to change your avatar! ;) Looks more amazing everyday!
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wow! beautiful work! I would have given both my TA's to have the car you started with and now it's even better, I don't know what to say now lol ;D
now that I notice the hemi badge on the charger I have to ask is it a real hemi car? ???
It was a rust free & engineless 383 basket case when I bought it. I put a 711 hp Ray Barton hemi in it; I sold the car last year.
Thanks!
Pat
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this one is coming along nicely! haven't checked it out in a while...
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I order a set of the Year One door water shields. The material looks original but I’m not sure about the fit/size as there was not much left of the original shields to compare it to. I use 3M strip caulk on each end to hold it and direct the water back to the inside of the door.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors047.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors048.jpg)
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That looks Great Pat! It's about ready for the road!
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Always wondered what that paper back was for ;D ;D
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it's not a paper BACK it was a Thin Brown Door Panel option, RPO 79 ;)
That looks good, can't wait to see the door panels mounted up
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I found some clip nuts at Ace Hardware that look similar to the originals, and work great!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAgrill001.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAgrill003.jpg)
The clip on the right is original and the one on the left is the new clip nut from Ace Hardware
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAgrill011.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAgrill010.jpg)
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Very creative! I love it!
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very nice. are them rings new or re-chromed?
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Love this car
Huge effort on your part bring it back to its former glory
Cant wait to see the finished product 8)
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very nice. are them rings new or re-chromed?
Rick, They are the original that I had Paul's re-chromed.
Thanks!
Pat
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curiosity, how much that run you? im thinking about starting to get things out for my 71 so that way by the time they get back, i should be ready to start on the car.
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curiosity, how much that run you? im thinking about starting to get things out for my 71 so that way by the time they get back, i should be ready to start on the car.
Rick,
Are you sitting down?
The 2 grill trims, 2 small trim part at the door, tail light trim, parking lights and the rear bumper, restored and re-plated cost about $2,700 and then I still had to send them the front & back window trim and headlight bezels for another $1,380.00 Ouch! I know, but it is flawless!
Pat
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wow but then again they look amazing as in you get what you pay for are my thoughts. have any contact info i can get? also how long did it take them for turn out time?
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wow but then again they look amazing as in you get what you pay for are my thoughts. have any contact info i can get? also how long did it take them for turn out time?
They are great to work with and take about 6 weeks!
http://www.paulschrome.com/
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Updates please! I need my fix! :)
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I got the hood & nose color sanded & polished and installed. The nose has a slight twist and was hard to get aligned when it was just primer, now with paint it was a pain in the a$$. Every time I get close to losing my cool I would walk a way! Well 3 days later its on and aligned.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody022.jpg)
Before color sanding
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody023.jpg)
Wet sanded to 2500 grit
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody024.jpg)
Passenger side polished
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody037.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody098.jpg)
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I bent a small paint brush to touch up the black paint inside the hood cowl. I’m not sure if it should be blue overspray or not but I like the clean black look.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody010.jpg)
Kurt helped with the nose hardware & mounting.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody012.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody041.jpg)
The hood & nose are loosely fit in this picture as I found it works best to fit both at the same time.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody060.jpg)
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Wow Pat...Amazing work!
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Awe... thank you...I feel better now
Well Pat and Kurt
lets getter done soon ok so you can get to drivin her
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I pushed my T/A out side to get some pictures and clean the garage floor.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody065.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbody045.jpg)
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I’m not happy with the height of the rear but front looks great. If after all the weight is in the car it’s still too high I’ll change the rear springs. Better the rear springs than the front!
Pat
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WOW you have done an amazing job Pat.
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Pat looks great you guys did an awesome job so far.
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Pat...I know I have said this before but I want your garage, with everything in it. WOW!!!
Your car is looking Amazing!
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This is an amazing looking car, and you've done an excellent job with it :)
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Pat, very nice job. I'm sure the rear will come down a little once it it driven for a bit. mine did.
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pat that thing is looking so great and so close to finished. when your done, i'll send you my 71 so you dont get bored
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I just read through the entire thread today after work. You have done an amazing job! Congrats, and hope to see some finished pics soon! ;)
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oooo it's getting close I can smell it!!!
Do you have lowering springs in the front? Looks awesome but were they that low originally?
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You can feel the excitment in the air from everyone...but what ever you do, don't smash a bottle of champagne against it ok!!
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oooo it's getting close I can smell it!!!
Do you have lowering springs in the front? Looks awesome but were they that low originally?
Kevin,
It's about 1" to 1 1/4" lower then stock. I bought the new springs (front & rear) from Pro-Touring F- Body and I love the front stance but I'm not sure the rear springs are the right set. It needs to be about 1 ¾” lower in the rear? After all the stuff is bolted back on check Pro-Touring to see if they can help??
Thanks!
Pat
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car looks brand new, love the garage
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Too close, my friend.. too close to turning that key. I bet you have an itch thats about to drive you bonkers.
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nice job on the car. i love your collection of cars kinda what i want those new muscle cars i bet will be worth a lot in 30 years.
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Amazing. I really like the front sprung height also. Great job on everything.
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Thanks Guys!
I helped a good friend pull a 400 out of a 1972 Grand Prix today and for my trouble I got all the 72 emission stuff and also some bolts & brackets that I didn’t have.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAflairs001.jpg)
The yellow bracket holds the transmission vacuum line and mounts on the middle trans to the motor bolt.
The small clip to the bottom right I think is a 72 only part. It holds the wire that comes out of the SCS switch to the speedometer cable.
And the wire clip on the top left mounts at the same bolt that holds the trans dip-stick tube and holds the engine wiring harness.
The two bolts to the top right are just compressor bolts.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAflairs003.jpg)
I did get 1 flair on, just a little gap at the bottom that should workout when I put the spoiler on.
Pat
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Pat, the gaps looks very good! Glad you were able to get the part you needed.
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working with the flares and spoilers is a lot of "fun"... I think what you got is rather good.
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Yeah my flares didn't come out very well and will be trying again this summer. That one looks amazing!
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Pat the flare looks good on the car. Good score on the other samll parts.
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Again Pat, fantastic looking TA. I think I speak for everyone when I say that your work is amazing :)
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if i haven't mentioned it before, that blue and that year are one of my favorites- the car looks awsome! you and i are going along the same lines as far as all the little "pieces". everytime i take something off or apart, i see all the tiny nuts, bolts, springs, etc, and i say to myself "hmmm, that needs to be painted". i really need to come up there real soon and check it out and get some more pointers ;D
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party at pats place
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Does phoenix Graphics make the decals for the 72 ?
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I hate you!!!
This car looks stunning. was your nose that straight on the sides or did you have to have it reworked? I noticed mine is a little warped on the sides and would like to attempt to have good gaps too.
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if i haven't mentioned it before, that blue and that year are one of my favorites- the car looks awsome! you and i are going along the same lines as far as all the little "pieces". everytime i take something off or apart, i see all the tiny nuts, bolts, springs, etc, and i say to myself "hmmm, that needs to be painted". i really need to come up there real soon and check it out and get some more pointers ;D
Billy,
You’re welcome anytime! I’m always in the garage!
Thanks!
Pat
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Does phoenix Graphics make the decals for the 72 ?
Yes, but I bought my stripes from stencil & stripes
http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/pr_pont_trans1.asp
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I hate you!!!
This car looks stunning. was your nose that straight on the sides or did you have to have it reworked? I noticed mine is a little warped on the sides and would like to attempt to have good gaps too.
I hate you!!!
This car looks stunning. was your nose that straight on the sides or did you have to have it reworked? I noticed mine is a little warped on the sides and would like to attempt to have good gaps too.
Rick,
I spent a lot of time fitting the nose to the fenders before paint and it paid off! When you start on yours PM me and I give you my cell # and I’ll walk you through fitting the nose.
Thanks!
Pat
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Last week Kurt & I drove down to Barrett Jackson to check the cars out & watch the auctions. We also on the drive down stopped in Virginia to look at a 68 Mustang Fastback. After checking it out we struck a deal and Kurt bought the car. On the way back (by way of the Blue Ridge Parkway) 5 days later we pick it up and drove her home. Needless to say Kurt is on top of the world! It a 10 footer and need some work but in a year she will look great!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/CartriptoBJ2010069.jpg)
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right on!!!
Congrats Kurt..nice car
My first car was an 89 short box S-10
went like a bat outta hell and was indestructable...I tried everthing to kill it other then driving it into things of course. It would not die!!
I hope it works out for you Kurt
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wow she looks great. what motor is in it? any photos of the motors.
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wow she looks great. what motor is in it? any photos of the motors.
The original 289 and 3 speed manual are in the car. The motor runs great, no smoke and no oil burn on the 130 mile ride home. The trans needs to be rebuilt but we may put a 4 speed in?
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/kurts68fastback/Kurts68MustangFastback010.jpg)
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/kurts68fastback/Kurts68MustangFastback014.jpg)
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/kurts68fastback/Kurts68MustangFastback006.jpg)
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wow that things looks cool i was lookin these things up. so obviously the 428 cobra jet was the motor of choice but what were good performance motors for these cars.
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congrats Kurt.
Pat, are you going to nut and bolt this one to?
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Good luck Kurt ... :D
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I have to admit I have always been a fastback mustang fan. That one looks like a winner!
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I hate you!!!
This car looks stunning. was your nose that straight on the sides or did you have to have it reworked? I noticed mine is a little warped on the sides and would like to attempt to have good gaps too.
I hate you!!!
This car looks stunning. was your nose that straight on the sides or did you have to have it reworked? I noticed mine is a little warped on the sides and would like to attempt to have good gaps too.
Rick,
I spent a lot of time fitting the nose to the fenders before paint and it paid off! When you start on yours PM me and I give you my cell # and I’ll walk you through fitting the nose.
Thanks!
Pat
will do buddy will do
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Doug,
Yes, but not on the on the same level as the T/A. 1st it will not be original; Kurt would like to paint it highlander green like the Bullitt car. And we will upgrade the brakes, steering, & suspension for safety. We are going to paint it and do all the body work as well as all the other work. This will be the 1st car that we will paint, and Kurt gets to do all the hard work, that’s the only way he will appreciate it! So far he has his life saving in the car and owes me 4k. The deal we have is I will pay for everything that makes it safer and he pays for the car and all the cosmetics! Plus he can never sell the car EVER!
Thanks!
Pat
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wow the car looks to be in nice shape. Good luck on that project.
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Thank you all, from Kurt!
Ok, enough of that Mustang stuff back to the Pontiac stuff! I got the 1st seat belt label samples and they are close but we are making a few changes, like the model # & date code will be a lighter shade of black and some alignment adjustments. The paper/fabric is very similar and I’m going to have one stitched on one of my old belt as a test.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAseatbelts002.jpg)
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Here's a set of '72's I have with the original tags. Just a FYI in case yours are missing or faded out.
(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/26737-1/carbs+and+seat+belts+020.JPG)
(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/26740-1/carbs+and+seat+belts+021.JPG)
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It looks like you have a mid/late year built 72 as you have the retraceable belts. My 72 has the 71 type belts, and the model # are different. Thanks for the pictures!
Pat
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nice repro. how did you pull that one off.
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nice repro. how did you pull that one off.
I have a sign shop that we use for the name & ports as well as the custom teak side name board for the yachts we sell, and they did it as a favor for me.
Thanks!
Pat
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Over the top Pat
Nice touch
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Only put a few hours in the T/A this weekend. I put the grilles, valence, and center spoilers on. Question, what is the correct headlight for a 72 T/A?
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfrontend003.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfrontend020.jpg)
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BOY DOES THAT LOOK GOOD!!!
I can't help you with the correct headlights issue but I've seen some NOS headlights pop up on e-bay sometimes.
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Thats just so wrong on so many different levels........
And the WRONGEST level is that MY CAR DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.......YET ;D
Gunner
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Wow Pat that looks sharp!
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T3 head lights I believe is the answer that you are seeking out buddy. they are hard to come across unless your looking for a model # on them, that i cannot help you with. but T3's were what they used back in the day.
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(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu249/y88rick/_T-3_headlight_detail.jpg)
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wow absolutly stunning. rick youve got some competition you gotta get started on your 71.
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meh my 71 looks cooler with the primer, mis aligned panels and no engine in it lol.
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T3 head lights I believe is the answer that you are seeking out buddy. they are hard to come across unless your looking for a model # on them, that i cannot help you with. but T3's were what they used back in the day.
Rick,
I not sure the T3's were used on 2 gen Firebird's? The info I'm hearing is Power Beam head lights and I have a line on two, new in the box.
Thanks!
Pat
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I had the new seat belt labels stitched to the seat belts today and I think I have them position correct. I have enough extra labels to do 4 more set of belt if anyone needs a set with a 46A71 date code PM me? A few have already asked and I will hold a set for them.
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAseatbelts003.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAseatbelts007.jpg)
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Now that you mention it, I think Power Beams are correct
the belts look good, I take it your belts weren't color keyed?
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I am sure they were used until 71 my 71 actually still has the t3's in it. after that i cannot really tell you.
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your right 72 is the first year of them after searching this seems to be what i found over and over
These "Power Beam" headlamps mustered as much candlepower on low beam as the quad headlights used on the 1972 models.
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btw pm me about them seat belt tags buddy
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Put the back seats & lap belts in. I had to cut some vinyl out of the original door panel to go under the outer seat belt bolt. I think PUI should supply a few scraps with a back seat order. Not much head room in the backseat, I’m only 5-8 my head is hitting the headliner.
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbackseat003.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAbackseat007.jpg)
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Sweetness! Yeah, the back seats are not fun to work in, but with the results you got, it was so worth it. I really enjoy checking in on this thread and seeing all the great work you do. I think you've inspired me to get some work done on my car this weekend.
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I would have to say that this is my favourite thread. Well done Pat.
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I have to agree with 1fast78, I check the thread every morning and night waiting for more updates. Simply amazing, keep up the great work.
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the vinyl under the seat belt bolts is a great idea Pat!!!
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I was going to do that but couldn't find a piece of vinyl to use. so I painted the area with the die I used on the dash.
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Looks awesome Pat! I have that piece when I got my new seat covers from classic Industries, but I choose not to use it.
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Zachattack77TA, 1Fast78, & Crazy Camaro, Thanks!
the vinyl under the seat belt bolts is a great idea Pat!!!
Not my idea, the vinyl under the seat belt bolts is how the factory built the car. I have some pictures when I disassembled the car but I can’t seem to find them.
Thanks!
Pat
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looking nice pat!! can I smell the nats with this car? its making me sick i just got to see this car in person. i just want to touch it, feel it and drive it well ok i'll settle for look at it if that works.
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I put the driver’s side door panel together and mounted it to the door. After mounting it 6 times I’m now happy with the fit.
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors056.jpg)
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I put tape on the bottom corners and top center of the water shield as the service manual calls for.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors084.jpg)
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After laying the carpet in the car for the past 6 months to help take the shape of the floor and loses the wrinkles from the box it was shipped in, I started putting the holes in the carpet for the seat belt bolts, using a trick a friend showed me years ago.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors087.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors089.jpg)
I used a sharp pick from the bottom of the car through the carpet to locate hole.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors091.jpg)
Then use a soldering iron to fuse the carpet and open up the hole.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAdoors092.jpg)
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very nice.... pat you mention the fit of your door panels. Any trouble up top by the window sweeps? if so what adjustments did you do?
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Pat that is a good idea for the bolt holes. I put the bolts back in the car than I put the carpet down and just cut an X over the bolt. Than pushed the bolt thru. Saw that on horsepower T.V.
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very nice.... pat you mention the fit of your door panels. Any trouble up top by the window sweeps? if so what adjustments did you do?
Rick
On the top edge of the door panel I just bent the inside metal of the door panel to meet the 3 window guides and I also put a ¼” x ½” foam/rubber strip on the back side to help keep the top of the panel tight to the door. I’ll post some pictures on the right door panel install.
Thanks!
Pat
PS did you receive the belt labels yet?
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That looks nice! I thought about turning my '71 Esprit into a T/A clone in that color scheme.
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pat that will be very much appreciated for me. I noticed mine dont fit so well and since i havent played with them at all i figured you were the best person to ask since you just accomplished this.
and yes i just got them in the mail today thanks a million
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Was there a change mid year (72) on the type of hood cowl seal clip that were used? When I remove the cowl seal two years ago it was held emplace with the plastic type but I’m not sure if they are original to the car? Yesterday I found at Carlisle www.restorationspecialties.com have the green steel clips so I bought a set $1.00 ea
Thanks!
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfasteners009.jpg)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfasteners002.jpg)
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A better than brand new 1972 T/A 455 H.O. (PRICELESS)
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Well looks like the green metal clip are the correct clips. I have order two more as I only bought 12 and the cowl seal need 14
Pat
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii196/keepat/TAfasteners020.jpg)
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im only an half hour or so from windber ...never heard of them
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my 71 has plastic in it and im 89% sure they have never been pulled either...pretty dry rotten and junk
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My Brother's 76 has that style seal and it has the plastic clips. I would actually prefer the plastic because of possible rust issues.
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something tells me this car never has to worry about rusting.
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something tells me this car never has to worry about rusting.
haha...Thats what I was thinking.
Great job Pat!
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rust ? sure it will.
in another 35 - 40 years. good job pat.
hows you boy doing on his new toy?
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something tells me this car never has to worry about rusting.
LoL true, true. But washing a car does require water sometimes ;)
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a true show car never see's water just a mere dusting.
mine seen water once so far and it was from the door handle down
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rust ? sure it will.
in another 35 - 40 years. good job pat.
hows you boy doing on his new toy?
Doug,
Kurt is having a great time working on his own car and as far as he is concerned the Mustang is the only car in the garage! Kurt & I when to Carlisle this past weekend to look for a few parts, and talk to some of the parts suppliers. It was also his 1st time price haggling on his own, which he quickly learned and mastered (so he said) It was fun standing back out of site watching him work the deal.
Thanks for asking!
Pat
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I am sure you/he will probably get familiar with CJ Pony Parts. I live about 30 min. from the shop/store. They are a good place to deal with for mustang stuff, and know their stuff.
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are you going to post up pics of his mustang as you guys get into it too or no?
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are you going to post up pics of his mustang as you guys get into it too or no?
Yes, we will start a thread on a Mustang site?? I have yet to find a Ford forum with member as nice as here! I didn’t think it would be right to start a one here, but I will post the link when we start the thread.
Thanks!
Pat
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I am sure you/he will probably get familiar with CJ Pony Parts. I live about 30 min. from the shop/store. They are a good place to deal with for mustang stuff, and know their stuff.
We have one of their catalogs and they look to have everything you could need. The problem is there is a lot of poor quality repro part out there for Mustangs and it would be nice if there was one place that only sold the good stuff.
Thanks!
Pat
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pat, I think its totally ok to start a thread on it here. your one of us and i see that alot of us are interested in how it will come. we will make an exception for you buddy no problem at all. I have posted pictures of other things i have worked on. your ok. we dont want a link man just update us on here. some of us may know fords too.
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pat, I think its totally ok to start a thread on it here. your one of us and i see that alot of us are interested in how it will come. we will make an exception for you buddy no problem at all. I have posted pictures of other things i have worked on. your ok. we dont want a link man just update us on here. some of us may know fords too.
I second that emotion...here here
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im not much of a ford guy but my aunt is and my uncle (her brother has slowly been restoring her 65 mustang over the past 15 years. (they took a 12 year break on it)
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Me neither but I still think this would make a cool thread to follow...here
I started a pole for ya Pat, open for 60 days hopefully a moderator will pin it for me.
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I order a drives door decal with my Vin# and the weight of the car. As there was no decal on the door when I bought the car I had no reference for the weight. What the seller used for the weight seems high? Anyone know if this is the correct weight?
Thanks!
Pat
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I was reading your great thread here and see that you were wondering about the 4810 lbs. figure on your door decal. I don't know if anyone explained the weight figures on the door decal or not. I think alot of people don't realize that the GVWR number is NOT the weight of the car. GVWR stands for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. It's the GM recommended maximum amount of weight the car can carry, including the weight of the car plus a load of passengers and cargo and fuel, etc. The GVWR is the sum of the other 2 numbers which are GAWR, meaning the Gross Axle Weight Rating. Those are the GM recommended maximum weights that each axle can safely be loaded, and added together amount to the GVWR. Your car probably only weighs about 3500 lbs, but could carry up to about 1300 in added load.
ALSO, your new door glass.....where did you get your new door glass? And how do you like the quality and fit? Thanks.
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Steve,
Thanks for the GVWR weight info
The new glass I use was from Pilkington and it fit perfect and the quality excellent! I put each piece on top of the original and all the holes lined up and they all had the same shape. See the links below for the glass link.
Thanks!
Pat
http://www.pilkington.com/the+americ...ts/default.htm
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Hi Pat. Thanks for the link to Pilkington.com. The link isn't working, but by going to Pilkington.com, I found the number to call. I've used a couple of Pilkington windshields and I've been very happy with their glass. That's great to hear how good the door glass is too. I guess the color was right too? And do you remember about how much they charge for a door glass? Thanks for your help.
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Pat your work is exceptional ,probably the cleanest 72 on the planet
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Agreed ;D
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i agree as well. i just love the detail on this thing.
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ya what they said . 100 point car for sure.
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Good info. on th GVWR weight...
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Hi Pat. Thanks for the link to Pilkington.com. The link isn't working, but by going to Pilkington.com, I found the number to call. I've used a couple of Pilkington windshields and I've been very happy with their glass. That's great to hear how good the door glass is too. I guess the color was right too? And do you remember about how much they charge for a door glass? Thanks for your help.
Steve,
The color was the correct green tint for this year. As for the price I think I paid $850.00 for all 4 pieces.
Pat
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Thanks for all the compliments guys! I’m not sure about a 100 point show car; it’s just a fun home garage build I shared with my son. That's the best trophy for me, time with my son!
Thanks!
Pat
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yep that really all the matters. still the nicest restore I have ever seen. 2 thumbs up
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Thanks Pat. That's reasonable. I suppose you had them put the correct logo and date codes put on them too.
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Thanks Pat. That's reasonable. I suppose you had them put the correct logo and date codes put on them too.
Just like the original!
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Beautiful 8) . Thanks!
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they dont date code them to a year for a car. all of them numbers are for the company to look at what plant and shift month they were made. if they have a defect (been known to happen) they need to be able to see where why and how along with possible recalls.
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Trunk & spoiler stripe when on without a problem, put the car out in the sun for a few hours and all the small bumps cleared up and it looks great! Next is the roof stripe but I‘ll need someone with longer arms then Kurt to help.
Pat
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That's flipp'n sweet man. Love it. I want to see more. It's like a mystery. We only get to see small parts at a time finished..SOON?
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Next is the roof stripe but I‘ll need someone with longer arms then Kurt to help.
*Raises hand excitedly* LOL the trunk decal looks goood!
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OOHH OOHH ME ME ME ME ME.
LOL Sorry I couldn't resist
nice work on the trunk stripe
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quick question. are you going to put any flaws in that car. jeese that thing is perfect.
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its parked next to a ford. thats enough of a flaw. haha
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how many guys does it take to put stripes on? i along with the others will gladly volunteer, im free all day long too
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i did the stripes on my car. it can be easy, but a pain at the same time
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Pat how close are you and Kurt to being finished with the car?
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Pat how close are you and Kurt to being finished with the car?
About 4 or 5 weeks, I hope!
Pat
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I'm so excited...hey no champagne bottles over her on her maiden voyage ok
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It's one amazing Trans Am you got there :) Truly outstanding :) And the fact that it's a rare T\A makes it even more awesome :)
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It's one amazing Trans Am you got there :) Truly outstanding :) And the fact that it's a rare T\A makes it even more awesome :)
Thank You!
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Received a few decals from ECS www.ecsautomotive.com today. They claim to make factory exact labels & decals. After comparing a repro from one of the big Pontiac supplier along with the new ECS decal to my original emission control decal, you can see the differences. Thanks njsteve for the heads up on ECS, they have excellent decals.
Pat
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Oh yeah, side by side the difference is obvious! Looking good.
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Look's like it's NOS
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looks awsome Pat! when it's done i'll have to come up and see it!
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I bought a NOS POA valve (ouch) for the A/C as my original was left exposed for many years and I know it’s full of dirt. The original A/C muffler cleaned up nicely but the replacement foam insulation tube was about an 1 ¼” to big. After cutting an 1 ¼” out I use black weatherstrip adhesive to hold the tube together. The replacement foam tube also came with a round foam disc end cap, but my original did not have a foam end cap, the question is should have and did the original foam end cap just fall off over time? Either way I think I’m going to using it as it’s not visible and it will help insulate the A/C
Thanks!
Pat
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I also put the Trans Am decal on the spoiler
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Love it!!! Very Jealous ;D
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Ahh, so that's what the bracket on the passenger side wheel well is for!!!
Looks good!
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That is good advice, Mike... it must have sucked getting bitten in the rear for polishing the AC lines.
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This is the whole reason I was never a big return it back to stock person. You will spend more time trying to make something look half a$$ed like the factory did, then you would to actually make something look really nice. Don't get me wrong Pat I love your car, but I really don't care if some clown is gonna give me crap about anything I did to make MY car nicer, or improve how IT looks and drives. This is why I am not the show car type. If I am going to spend the time and money to do a car, I am going to enjoy it and use it for what it was meant for. I am not building the car to please other people. Sorry for the rant.
Can't wait to see this thing all finished up.
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Pat,
I went to the Nationals and see your A/C muffer was buffed to a nice shine. I just want to make you aware that I've been cautioned when I did the same to mine and my A/C lines. I was confronted by a Tech Staff Judge stating my car must retain the "stock" (dulled) appearance on the muffler and A/C lines. They almost considered my "lightly polished lines" a modification. I know you were thinking of going to the Nationals (I'd love to see your car there and I am certain your car will do very well there. But they're really picky for "stock" components and appearance there and I just wanted to help with this reference.
Here are my almost modified A/C Lines due to polishing...
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Mike,
Thanks for the heads up on the judges. I think the flash makes it look polished but all I used was bronze wool to in an attempt to save the original plating. I’ll wipe it down with a little muriatic-acid as that should tone it down.
Thank You!
Pat
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This is the whole reason I was never a big return it back to stock person. You will spend more time trying to make something look half a$$ed like the factory did, then you would to actually make something look really nice. Don't get me wrong Pat I love your car, but I really don't care if some clown is gonna give me crap about anything I did to make MY car nicer, or improve how IT looks and drives. This is why I am not the show car type. If I am going to spend the time and money to do a car, I am going to enjoy it and use it for what it was meant for. I am not building the car to please other people. Sorry for the rant.
Can't wait to see this thing all finished up.
PA Formula,
I’m with you going all original is a nightmare but I’m enjoying the challenge. No question my next car will a pro-touring car. I’m close to finding my high school 66 GTO.
Thanks!
Pat
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yeah, the pro touring style is my thing. I really loved your charger that you had.
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I bumped all the dents & leveled the mounting holes in the original valve cover. I love to the look of the chrome valve cover but there not factory. For someone who likes modified & custom cars it’s hard not to have a little chrome!
Pat
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There are 4 of these metal bracket (2 at the front left & 2 at the rear right valve cover bolts, they are used to hold wire harness clips and I’m not sure if they are originally painted or not???
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mmm. Perfectly Beautiful. Great good again Pat. Your on the home stretch.
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I have to ask, where did you learn all your skills?? A ton of reading or were you a restoration guy once upon a time?
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Is it done yet?
Waiting with anticipation!!!
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those bracket / tabs were painted engine color like you have. technically, only the tops. the bottoms were bare. that however would cause rust which is no good. they do get lubrication though from the bolts. seems to occur no matter how hard you try.
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pat outstanding
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I have to ask, where did you learn all your skills?? A ton of reading or were you a restoration guy once upon a time?
Nick,
All it takes is the right tools, commonsense, and a lot of patients! Sometimes I only have the tools.
Thanks!
Pat
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those bracket / tabs were painted engine color like you have. technically, only the tops. the bottoms were bare. that however would cause rust which is no good. they do get lubrication though from the bolts. seems to occur no matter how hard you try.
Looks like I guess right!
Thanks!
Pat
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Pat, as always, looking good!
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Pat very nice work again.
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This is one awesome looking car :) Wish my TATA looked like this, although, then I would probably not dare to drive it on the extremely bad roads around here :(
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Anymore updates?
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I spent the weekend troubleshooting some wiring problems, and installing a stereo.
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This is an aftermarket neutral safety switch with the cover removed. It is mounted on the steering column low and close to the firewall. Two of the contacts were making the starter engage prematurely.
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Here you can see the space it should have.
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I sent a broke AM/FM radio to Mike Hagan Antique Auto Radio and had it upgraded to a 180 w 4 speaker AM/FM stereo with a Ipod input.
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I used an acrylic adhesive to hold a ¼ stud to the new speakers as to hold the repro speaker boxes.
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The system looks and works as original but sounds great!
Pat
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super cool!!!
Nice find on the prepature ignigition problem!!
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I’ve been look for a spare throttle cable, NOS or new with no luck. But when talking with Ron Johnson he said to check with The Parts Place. Maybe I’m the last to find out but if not here is a link to their new cable for 70, and 71-74 Firebirds.
Pat http://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/newproducts.asp?SearchText=throttle+cable&imageField.x=6&imageField.y=12
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Pat the radio is AWSOME! my car still has the factory/ OE digital 8-track in it. it works, but it doesn't sound great. when i get to that part, i wanted an iPod or a CD changer in it some how without removing the factory head unit. where is the iPod hook up and where did you mount the front 2 speakers? if yours is like mine, i only has 3 originally- 2 in the back, and 1 in the center dash...
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BEAUTIFUL. I love everything. Just simply amazing. Could thing you caught the neutral safety switch problem. That may have been a problem tracking down that later on.
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Pat, you're work just gets more more better.
Pat the radio is AWSOME! my car still has the factory/ OE digital 8-track in it. it works, but it doesn't sound great. when i get to that part, i wanted an iPod or a CD changer in it some how without removing the factory head unit. where is the iPod hook up and where did you mount the front 2 speakers? if yours is like mine, i only has 3 originally- 2 in the back, and 1 in the center dash...
http://www.78ta.com/smf/index.php?topic=11612.0
This is how i have it set up in my car.
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Pat the radio is AWSOME! my car still has the factory/ OE digital 8-track in it. it works, but it doesn't sound great. when i get to that part, i wanted an iPod or a CD changer in it some how without removing the factory head unit. where is the iPod hook up and where did you mount the front 2 speakers? if yours is like mine, i only has 3 originally- 2 in the back, and 1 in the center dash...
Billy,
I used a small dual speaker that fit in the center dash as original did.
Thanks!
Pat
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thats cool! where did you get all that stuff?
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Haven't checked in for a while here and am catching up. That thing is a MONSTER man............It's absolutely BEAUTIFUL..............
And thanks for the heads up on the glass. The mechanics on my windows are worn smooth out, and my side window glass is all scratched up. Now I know where to get replacemnts.
The thread that just keeps on giving.
Gunner
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thats cool! where did you get all that stuff?
The front speaker was from Ames and the radio was updated at www.mikehaganantiqueautoradio.com
Thanks!
Pat
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I bought some repro wiper arms & blades from Muscle Car Industries and they look and fit great!
Pat
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I used a drill bit in the hole on the side of the wiper arm base to hold the spring open to help align the arm to the shaft.
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This is where you adjust the arms to their lowest point when in the park position.
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very nice. I also have the 4 speaker set up in my car as you do but i dont have a stock head unit either. should sound great once i get the head unit in but ive been thinking about doing a stock radio as you did with a conversion. how is the sound quality?
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very cool, amazing job or the rebuild.....
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Today finished all the under dash A/C duck work, glove box, and the column lower panel. I also installed the console, now just the front seats, belts, & door sill and the interior will be complete.
Pat
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The repro console map pocket doesn’t match at the top, and a previous owner cut the back out of the original to install a stereo component. So I glued the back of the repro to the front of the original, then painted it black and used a Testors silver model marker on the trim.
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Too much!!
I love the your handy work
Any books in the works yet?
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Drooling ... I'm ready to put a milk crate in there and go for a ride already!
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Drooling ... I'm ready to put a milk crate in there and go for a ride already!
I’m ready! You’ll need to bring your own milk crate! Lol
Thanks!
Pat
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been there done that. awww good times.
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I have to say that I have driven the Project with a milk crate and it was not fun!!!
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2 1/2 years so far, but i remember your first post. It seems like it went fast, but i bet not to you. As usuall, it's lookin awesome Pat.............. Gonna miss this post when you're done............... so........ if you wanna start over......... i'll give you my adress! ;D
just awesome Man!
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2 1/2 years so far, but i remember your first post. It seems like it went fast, but i bet not to you. As usuall, it's lookin awesome Pat.............. Gonna miss this post when you're done............... so........ if you wanna start over......... i'll give you my adress! ;D
just awesome Man!
Almost 2 ½ years and only a week or two left, and I was thinking it would only take about a year. Was I ever off on my timing. Good thing it wasn’t a job I bid on as I would have lost money. Did I say money, let’s not go there! No question I under estimated how difficult it is to restore any car back to the day it was new. I now have a new respect for all the original cars that at one time I thought were just a little boring, as I spent most of my time checking out the modified & custom cars. Now I can say, been there done that! The next car will be modified!
Thank You!
Pat
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Anyone have or knows where to buy the two fasteners that hold the panel under the steering column? See picture!
Thanks for any help!
Pat
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Pete @ Fbodywarehouse has those, i think they are like 20 bucks.... I thought I had a pile of originals, turns out I only have 5 and all the female ends are broken
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Wow nice work that looks great
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Anyone have picture of the shoulder belt in the stored position on a 70-72? I’m about to install the shoulder belts and I could use some help with the mount & tab location. Any measurement would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Pat
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are you looking for the mount locations? i happen to be missing my shoulder belts but the mounts are there. i can give you the measurements.
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are you looking for the mount locations? i happen to be missing my shoulder belts but the mounts are there. i can give you the measurements.
Rick,
That would be great!
Thanks!
Pat
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alright i will get on that for you gimme 24-36 hours
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I need one more piece of the puzzle, if anyone has 4 sale or know where I can get the bracket that holds the hard lines at the front of the AC compressor (see pic below) please let me know. Thanks for any help!
Pat
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WOW
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It’s alive! After spending two nights trying to get the timing set I gave up on the unitized distributor and installed a HEI just to test the system. I’ll have to troubleshoot the unitized as it’s not working right! So after a few driveway brake tests it was time for a drive to the gas station! 8 miles on the clock and she drives great!
Pat
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man that had to be a good feeling, congrats! ;D
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i think you may have forgotten something
but the car looks great
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wow she is sexy. nice work doesn't even say it. you did an amazing job.
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about time for a new avatar. great job Pat.
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Awesome, just plain awesome!
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Looks great Pat. Glad you have it on the road.
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now cruise a little further and help me finish mine!
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Very nice for sure Pat. Don't tell me your buying your gas at BP?
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Looks fantastic - get you an air cleaner assembly and slap that hood on. Big Congrats!
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Wow. Thats awesome . Congrats. I bet you made a lot of heads turned drving that car around.
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That is BEAUTIFUL . you have done an AWESOME job .. I bet you get goose bumps just looking at her , not to mention driving her around . SWEET !!!
JOSH
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its always much nicer to see them outside isnt it? looks really good pat. looking at that makes me just want to keep my 71 and let it wait its turn to get finished.
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Congradulations Pat and Kurt. your project is truely breath taking and eye candy for sure. As soon as I get a day off I will complete the project you and I discussed. I have been trying to keep up with your progress but you guys are going faster than i was able to keep up..lol... would have loved to heard the engine fire over the first time, let alone the look on your face... one of the happiest moments for a enthusiast.
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You are funny Hammer. Its not hard to admire that restoration.
As for the BP station. All BP stations are franchises. If you boycott a station you're not hurting anyone but the owner. BP sold their stations at least 2 years ago according to a news report I heard on Nation Public Radio this morning.
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I can only imagine the satisfaction you're feeling about driving your car Keepat. That thing is a MONSTER. What a BEAUTIFUL car.........
My hat is MOST DEFINATELY off to you, sir.
WELL DONE. VERY WELL DONE.
Gunner
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Wahooo!!!
Just the hood, work out some gremlins, and your away to the races...or car show!!
Great job Pat and Kurt truely remarkable
how about some sound bites?
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Pat, very very soon you will have to change your avatar. You are doing an amazing job! She looks beautiful. Keep up the great work.
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car looks amazing
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Congratulations on getting her finished. She sure looks totally awesome Pat, but BP gas? Really? LMAO...no comment.
Well Done and I see even Mrbandit himself stopped by to look in on your post. (That's a huge honor Pat, to see him here and posting on your thread as he rarely gets over here)
Looking forward to seeing a new avatar once the distrib, hood, and bonnet goes on.
Mike,
I live on a peninsula and there is only one gas station on the point (BP), the next one is 8 mile from my home. I was just going on a short shakedown so I stop there for gas. Funny thing is I never get gas there not because of the oil spill but the owner of the station is a jerk!
As for Mrbandit checking my car out that’s cool (not sure who he is), but the real honor is sharing the build with everyone here and all the great feedback & nice comments over the past 2 ½ years.
Thank you and all the 78 TA members!
Pat
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Congrats on getting it on the road! Looks great too!
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Amazing car. Hate stating the obvious. I say boycott bp.
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Kinda pissed I didn't get any notification about this thread lately as I have missed quite a lot!
Looks amazing Pat! Nothing beats the feeling of the first drive!
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Car done yet? Car done yet? Car done yet? What are you waiting for? Hey Pat, Kurt just kidding hope all is still going well.
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Stunning, She's beautiful & deserve's some Lime Light now...
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congradulations guys! she looks awsome!
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something tells me this guy has just been too busy drving the car around rather than sharing pictures. I'd be doing the same thing.
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He has forgotten all about us now that he has his new toy. Oh well. He has worked hard to earn some time off the posting I guess.
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I put the hood & roof stripes on, just have the small bird to put on. There are only a few things left to do the biggest is changing the rear springs to lower the rear of the car about 1 ½”
Thanks!
Pat
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simply stunning...
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dear god this car is more than i could ever ask for.
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Pat these are some sad times!!!
This means that the posts are soon going to ending on this beauty
I hope this thread can get pinned so that we can rerence it for how to Ideas...ahem ahem...hint hint... ;D
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Simply stunning....
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Nice to see it finally finished. Your car has got to be the nicest T/A I have ever seen. Wish I could see it in person. Gongrats to you and you son for finishing it. And thank you for taking the time to share your progress over the last 2 years.
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she look great, outstanding job.
PS has Kurt found a forum yet to post his build?
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Beautiful Pat - enjoy it...
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amazing car capping off an awesome build. thanks for sharing!
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Wholly cow is that one sweet looking Trans am Pat and Kurt.
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jeese the car looks brand spankin new and your already replacing the suspension haha. this is like my dream car. ill trade you a honda civic for it? :)
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Last night I took the T/A out to the local cruise in. On the drive I looked down at the odometer just when it turned 13 miles and I thought to myself, if I was a superstitious person that’s not a good thing to see. Just then a old man cutting the grass along the road with a old Farmall tractor started shooting stones out in all directions and one of the stones hit the right door and put a ½”chiped in the paint. Needless to say I was upset, to put it mildly. I guess it could be worse?
Pat
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:o OUCH!
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sorry to see that happen . but good for us, THIS TREADS NOT OVER YET
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OH NO the first chip in the paint....got to hate it when that happens. you should have seen me when that happened. i didnt use kind words my wife tried to calm me down too ...it was our 3 year old who did mine. then my mother in-law 2 times then my 3 year old again.
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Yeah thats not good!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Sorry to see that Pat :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Fix up in the works of course
fill it in buff it out to put it mildly? ??? ??? ???
Hey do you know what this means!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
more pics and how to stuff!!! don't mean to be so excited all of a sudden pat...i'm still greiving of course ;)
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I would have been more then mildly upset!
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Well, did you negotiate free lawn care for a year or what? Where'd tractor man run off too!
Sorry to hear about that. I'm sure you'll correct the problem on what... the 13th of July? ;)
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it amazes me how many idiots mow along the road with it discharging towards cars on the road.
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Ohh ugh, that sucks! It happened to me too with my 99 T/A but it was a huge chunk of wood, I mean HUGE, thankfully it just put a chip not a dent, thankfully it didn't hit the glass too.
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I received an awesome gift from Virgil (Rarebird) yesterday. He put together an hour long DVD with most of the pictures I posted in my thread along with some great sound. It plays like a movie with the still photos moving in the frame and it starts with the pictures of the car the day I bought it, and through the restoration. It was Virgil idea to play it at car shows on a small portable DVD player, which I will do!
This was a very generous gift of Virgil’s time and talents and it will be a get way the show the restoration of the car to others. But the best part of his gift was seeing Kurt grow up in the video over the last 2 ½ years (wow! does time fly by!)
Virgil THANK YOU!
Pat
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That's awsome!!!
2 years see's some big changes in a kids life
So...how's that book coming along... ;D ;D ;D
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very thoughtfull of virgil.... now if you and virgil wouldnt mind, i'd like to buy a copy of it for my own viewing pleasure when i have time to sit infront of the tv.
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I picked up 4 KR wheel with the right date code for my car last night. I plan on restoring them swopping the Wide Ovals and then put some BF Goodrich on the other wheels for local cruising.
Pat
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Note they all have 72 on the back side of the rim and MI 1 at the valve stem. I never knew about the #72 on the back??
PS no trim rings for either set!
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Cool...need more popcorn!1
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Good score Pat. I bet that is a cool video that Virgil did.
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so Im taking you liked the compilation of tunes to the video and the progression of the restoration. what took you 2.5 years to complete is astonishing Pat. I followed your thread religously ( like others anticipating the next post ) you are very tallented and to have you son take the time to be with you is a gift in itself.
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for some strange reason i had a feeling this thread wasn't over. I too followed this thread religiously.
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Hey Rarebird, I wouldnt mind buying a copy of that disc also.
Pat, like i've said from the begining, awesome job!
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its not the complete video but those interested for a limited time can view (download) it from here.
http://rapidshare.com/files/407693930/Pats72_1.wmv
its limited to 10 views currently so get it while one can.
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I think you should youtube this awesome!!
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I think you should youtube this awesome!!
in all its over an hour long and youtube only 10 minute segments it would be seperated about 7 times and i hate to do it that way.
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I think you should youtube this awesome!!
in all its over an hour long and youtube only 10 minute segments it would be seperated about 7 times and i hate to do it that way. Oh did not know that ..too bad would be cool to share , I downloaded it and showed my cousin who did just about the same thing on his 1968 SS Camaro while in high school with the help of his dad great project thanks for the video .. great job.
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Wow. That car came out absolutely beautiful! Great job!
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After unsuccessfully trying to find NOS Unitized distributor parts to fix my original distributor I decided to gut the original electronic and install some updated ignition parts from Pertronix.
http://www.pertronix.com/support/default.aspx
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I used a point’s distributor breaker plate as a guide to locate the Pertronix module on the vacuum advance plate on the Unitized distributor.
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I disassemble both distributors hoping to use some of the parts from the point’s distributor but with no luck.
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The mechanical advances under the rotor are the same on both distributors, so the magnet sleeve/ring fit prefect.
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With a little modification to the original vacuum advance plate I was able to attach module and set the air gap at .0020 to the magnet sleeve/ring
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I cut the wires off of the original unitized module and made the connection to the new module at the same location and with black heat shrink it looks original.
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So from the outside it all looks original uses the unitized coil and wires and the tachometer works and the best part the car runs great!
Pat
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Pat your out of this world!!!
The wow factor never ends...very impresive
so...did you start on that book yet?
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Looks good Pat, hey did you fix the paint chip?
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Looks good Pat, hey did you fix the paint chip?
Conrad,
It's more like a touch up, this winter I will have the door resprayed.
Thanks!
pat
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PAT you keep eluding my book question!!!
it's ok... just messin with ya
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so i take it you are never changing your avatar ?
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PAT you keep eluding my book question!!!
it's ok... just messin with ya
No book but there will be another car!
Pat
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so i take it you are never changing your avatar ?
Not finished yet, but soon!
pat
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So whats the next car gonna be?
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So whats the next car gonna be?
After/during Kurt Mustang I'm hoping to do a 66 GTO?
Thanks!
Pat
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I am stunned and amazed by the work you've done on your car. The common sense and time taken to ensure every little detail was not only put back to stock, but better than stock is truly something to admire. This thread was simply awesome! Thanks for all the pics and info!
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So where can we find the build thread for Kurts Stang?
You gonna do an original resto on the GTO, or ya gonna resto mod it.
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GTO eh!!!!
very nice choice
resto mod?
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So where can we find the build thread for Kurts Stang?
You gonna do an original resto on the GTO, or ya gonna resto mod it.
I'll let you know when & where we start a thread for Kurt's car.
No more original cars as they take longer, hard to find NOS parts, and not as much fun! The GTO will be pro-touring driver.
Thanks!
Pat
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What is the correct length for the valve stem on 72 KR rally wheels? One of my wheels looks to be original and it has a 2” valve stem, looks long but with trim rings it maybe right??
Thanks for any help!
Pat
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The last of the interior work was installing the shoulder belts which the car didn’t have when I bought it. After looking at as many 70-72 T/A as I could I think I have installed them correct? Please let me know if it should be hooked differently?
Thanks!
Pat
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I located the holes from pictures I had before I put the new headliner up
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I’m not sure if the plastic cover should be black or blue??
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Looks good to me.
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pat that looks right on with how my 71 was. as for color i think you got it right but im not sure as my 71 had black interior. otherwise. measuring one valve stem i have off a wheel left from the 71 it measures 1 3/4 from the rim to the threaded part of the valve stem and 2 in to the top of the threads. hope that helps your questions some?
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i cant get over how much your going into detail with this car. it is absolutly flawless nice work. You should bring it to nats and win.
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i cant get over how much your going into detail with this car. it is absolutly flawless nice work. You should bring it to nats and win.
I hope to make it to the nats, but this weekend it will be at Norwalk!
Thanks!
Pat
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Why put shoulder belts in a car that didn't originally have them? Just asking.
Gunner
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that particular car probably did come with shoulder belts...it was an option then if I'm not mistaken
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This car looks absolutely beautiful :) Probably one of the best Trans Am's ever restored :) No offence to anyone else ;)
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Cool deal Pat... I know the car was a hit all its own. Im sure there were a few comments on the DVD player touch. So may shows i been to and the owner has a photo albulm with snapshots of thier progress during a restoration or build... Never have I seen someone take the time to do a actual video (slide show).
Your car is breath taking in the least and I have admired your dedication and progress from the day you got the car. Truely a "One Of" in my book. May you get all the attention you rightly deserve for your labors.
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Mike,
It was great meeting you and a few of the other 78 T/A members along with seeing your T/A!
Thank You!
Virgil,
The DVD was a big hit but the best part for me was telling everyone who commented on the DVD about the great guy I have never met who took the time to make an AWESOME gift! It’s nice to know there are still great people out there!
THANK YOU!
Pat
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i thought thar was your car! wish i coulda met some of you guys
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I modified/expanded on njsteves idea of removable stone guards.
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Starting with some cheep splash guards from Pepboys and some Flex trim from West Marine (note the right size is ¼” part # V30-1008B251 and B is for Black)
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I cut the stone guards to the same shape as the fender inner flange and drilled a 9/16” hole to locate the guard on the fender. The hole goes over one of the fender bolts and helps lock the stone guard emplace (note I added two small felt pads to prevent any paint damage.
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I cut some of the Flex trim to fit above and below the fender bolt
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This Flex trim is used on boats to go over the edges fiber glass hatches and on the bottom of old type steel outboard fuel tanks. I will replace the white Flex trim with black next week.
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The Flex trim slide between the inner fender and the fender flange and holds the stone guards emplace.
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The back go on the same way but there no bolt to help align it, but it holds and all 4 held at 75 mph. (note I use the small guard on the back and large up front)
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It takes about a minute to remove all 4 and two minute to put them on.
Thanks!
Pat
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looks great Pat. she turned out to be a beauty!
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Looks great Pat nice work.
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WOW...two days of reading gave me a lot to think about and alot to appreciate! The only problem: I have to go back through 60+ pages to find the different paints/techniques you used to restore all of the various components of your car!! ;)
You son's car will come out great with all of the hands-on experience you gave him...don't forget to give a link to that project as well!
A beautiful car!
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WOW...two days of reading gave me a lot to think about and alot to appreciate! The only problem: I have to go back through 60+ pages to find the different paints/techniques you used to restore all of the various components of your car!! ;)
You son's car will come out great with all of the hands-on experience you gave him...don't forget to give a link to that project as well!
A beautiful car!
Glad you enjoyed it & I hope it help you in the future. After we get a few projects on Kurt’s car posted I’ll post the link to his car.
Thank You!
Pat
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I just finished reading through this post from front to back for the second time .. I think I saw more details the second time around than the first.... Amazing talent you have there KeePat. I am glad to know someone out there is spending Father-Son time on such a awesome car. Keep up the great work.
JOSH
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This is one amazing post, on an amazingly looking Trans Am :)
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Hey Pat, I just bought a 1970Trans Am and I am about to start my restoration project and your project has been a huge inspiration to me. I will try and do mine as well as you did yours. Hopefully you will still check in here so we can get advice when needed. I will probably start on mine in a few weeks. Questions to follow. Thanks, Jake
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Hey Pat, I just bought a 1970Trans Am and I am about to start my restoration project and your project has been a huge inspiration to me. I will try and do mine as well as you did yours. Hopefully you will still check in here so we can get advice when needed. I will probably start on mine in a few weeks. Questions to follow. Thanks, Jake
Jake,
Congrats on the 70 T/A and feel free to PM anytime! now let see some pictures!
Thanks!
Pat
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Great idea on the guards Pat and with Norwoods static flare guards (soon to hit the market) I might be driven my car too!
Wish I had them both today because Id be driving Tipp City this weekend instead of riding shot gun :(
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Last week driving the T/A home after dropping off Kurt at work, I heard an awful noise coming from the left side of the motor. Only a ½ mile from home I idled back, and pulled the drives side valve cover off to find the #7 exhaust rocker stud broke off. I was lucky the lifter stayed emplace and the push rod was the making the noise taping on the valve cover. After looking at the failed parts I noted that the nut holding the rocker on was threaded off center line and when it was installed it only made contact on one side which I think stress the stud. Needless to say I checked the other 15 and all other were true. Installed a new stud and nut and all is good!
Pat
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wow. That must have been very scary for you. Glad all is well.
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yeah extremely scary. glad it was something small.
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I am glad everything turned out ok for you!
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Well I just want to say Your car came out great and I was reading thur some of the pages and how this stay's up for a very long time as there are alot of helpful points in here. Great job, and I hop someday my 70 can look as good. heck Right now I wish I had the time just to get it out on the road again. LOL ;)
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Oh MAN! THERE'S a heart attack that NOBODY needs! If I would have seen that in my engine ,the part in Ferris Buhlers Day Off where Ferris says "This is where Cameron freaks out" would have been NOTHING! They would have heard me screaming on MARS. And with all the work you put into that car! I would have probably snapped my cap and been put in a soft room eating soft food.
Gunner
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Glad u were able to save it Pat.
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For anyone who is interested below is a link to a Mustang site that Kurt & I are posting the progress of his car. All is going well and we rented a 40x27 shop about an 1/8 of a mile away from home so now we have a place to paint a car (or two?)
Thanks!
Pat
http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/vintage-mustang-forum/611893-my-son-bought-his-1st-car-weekend.html
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so far so good. ( Kurts hot rod shop ) nice touch. love the new shop.
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Thanks for the link Pat
Very cool
I really like the name on the door
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The guys on that forum are going to be in awe of your talents just like we are. Nice job and I love the name on the new shop door!
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Pat, you and Kurt are doing a great job so far on the stang. the shop looks awesome.
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Great to see Father /Son project. Will bring great memories to ejoy & savor.
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Link is bookmarked! I can't wait to follow this one too!
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I posted this on Kurt's mustang site but it apply here as well!
The muscle car community both in the real world and on line is awesome! I have met/communicated with many car people over the years with my other car projects. My 68 Dodge Charger was a great collaboration throughout the build with other people both on line, at car shows and swap meets. And my 72 Pontiac T/A was the same; everyone was generous with their time, information, and spare parts. And now with my son’s Bullitt replica we are experiencing the same goodwill. Today I received a pair of early 68 rear side marker indents from another mustang owner (Aolshove THANK YOU!) I also had other members offer to help with the same parts! A lot of my car friends are loyal to only one brand of automobile, and a few call me a car ***** (haha) because I will buy & restore any car no mater what brand. But if there is one thing I have learned whether it be a GM, Ford, or Mopar, cool cars bring out the best in all of us! It’s nice having my son see how generous people can be!
Thanks!
Pat
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pat, kurts car is looking great.
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My son Kurt & I are taking the TA on the Hot Rod power tour from Cape Canaveral, FL to Detroit, MI starting this weekend! One of the things we did to help protect the car on the 3000 + mile road trip was to make a bug screen as the love bugs can be nasty in FL.
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I started with some HD pet vinyl screen and some 3/8 grommets position at the top bumper mount bolts and at the low valance bolts.
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I also added a grommet for the hood latch pull with a piece of leather protect the screen from tearing. 5 bolts hand tight hold it emplace and it take about minute to put it on or take it off.
Thanks!
Pat
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Looks cool Pat. Lemme know when you will be in Detroit. I would love to meet you and see the car in person.
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which way are you taking to fl ? if you are coming by my way would love to meet you guys and see that amazing car
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Looks cool Pat. Lemme know when you will be in Detroit. I would love to meet you and see the car in person.
We will be in Detroit at the Metropolitan Beach on Friday the 9th
Thanks!
Pat
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which way are you taking to fl ? if you are coming by my way would love to meet you guys and see that amazing car
Tomorrow at noon we will drive from Edgewater MD to Lorton VA and take the Auto Train to Sanford FL and start the Power Tour in Cape Canaveral.
Thanks!
Pat
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That sounds like a lot of fun Pat!!!!
Be safe and enjoy yourself!!!
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cant wait to see some of your snapshots ..hint....hint
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Yeah snap shops are GOOD
JOSH
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look what I found posted on AGTA by damon23 ;D very cool
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Awesome idea! Have fun on the tour!
PS - The Mustang is coming along great!
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Looks sweet Pat.
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very nice.
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Beautiful!
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The 2011 Hot Rod Power Tour with my son Kurt in a 72 Pontiac Trans Am.
We started on Friday the 3rd of June with a 50 minute drive to the Amtrak Auto Train in Lorton VA. Two good friends one with a 1967 GTO and the other driving a 2009 SRT/8 Challenger also doing the HRPT drove with us to Lorton VA. I had booked the Auto Train back in January but never use the Auto Train before and was apprehensive as to how they would handle the cars. The price was incredible reasonable, just $425.00 for the Pontiac, sleeper car for two, a nice linen table dinner with all the wine you can drink, and continental breakfast the next morning. Every one of the Amtrak people we met from the front gate to the driver of our car, to the conductor and the people at the check in counter were friendly, helpful, and very cautious with our car. Before getting into the car they video the body for any damage, then put plastic over the seat and paper on the floor. The driver then slowly drove our car up the ramp and into the train car.
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Day 1 ready to hit the road with 360 mile on the car after a 2+ year restoration.
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With all 3 of our cars loaded on the train, along with 8 other HRPT cars we got on board the ¾ of a mile long train, the longest passenger train Amtrak runs.
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After a 17 hour overnight train ride we arrived in Sanford FL. And with the same friendly & cautious attitude as the VA Amtrak people our car were driven off the train with a spotter checking the front spoilers at the bottom of the ramp. All the cars were damage free, just a little dusty. For the money it was a great deal and I would do it again!
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The yellow 442 parked with us in this picture belongs to a conductor with Amtrak who was Long Hauling his 1st HRPT. He road with us most of the way to Detroit, great guy and a nice 442!
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Not many pictures in Cocoa Beach but I did see another 72 Tans Am that is owned by the son of the original owner.
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Georgia Motorsports Park was hot, but a Lucerne blue raspberry snow cone help cool things off!
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A few pic on the way to Montgomery AL and a little cool off for the Goat at the exit for US-231 Eastern Blvd.
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The T/A develop a rattle at start up that sounded like it was coming from the trans, so the next morning I parked in front of Tony’s Transmission shop that I found online with a 5 star rating. Tony Mcglaun the owner showed up at 7:30 and by 7:45 the T/A was on the lift. 10 minutes & 3 flywheel to converter bolts later it was back on the road. Tony was great and when I ask for the bill he said no charge! You can’t be that southern hospitality!
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On the way to Nashville the T/A turn 1000 miles!
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My best mirror shot.
No good pictures in Nashville but on the way out Joe Sebergandio with Motor Media stop us looking for a car to install a new Pioneer stereo system when we get to Muskegon, MI. I volunteered my friends 67 GTO and they agreed!
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The next day in Indianapolis Joe ask if we could stop by the Pioneer tent to confirm a few things, and he had a gift for Kurt a UPS Nascar coat signed by David Ragan! That was cool! Thanks David & Joe!
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Driving on the Indy 500 was hot & slow but for the last two turns where we made it to 75 mph.
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The town & people of Muskegon, MI were the best on the tour! And the Pioneer people did an awesome job installing a complete stereo system in the GTO in about 6 hours.
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On the drive to Detroit my navigator was a sleep.
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The GM Proving Grounds was awesome and a great way to end a great Power Tour!
Thank You GM & Hot Rod!
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The 600 miles drive back home was uneventful and welcomed. Next time we do the HRPT it will be in Kurt’s 68 Bullitt replica!
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Pat, I was talking with MdBandit today, we totally all need to get together and meet! maybe talk George into doing it as well.... you missed out on Saratoga by the way!
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What a beautiful car!! Looks like you have a fun trip, thanks for sharing!
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Cool pics Pat.
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Great pictures and documenting. I felt like I was on the trip with you as I was reading along. Sure looks like a great father/son team.
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Wow, what a cool trip that looks like!
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Pat.. its good to see all your hard work on the asphalt. putting that many miles on a fresh resto does something to a man... "MAHOGANY"...great job my friend...
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Four things.
1) First and foremost. That car is so beautiful it is OBSCENE! And I KNOW you know the regs about posting porn on this site ;D It's not nice to taunt us with such a GEORGEUS car!
2) NOW you've made sure that I have to go on the power tour as well as going to the Nats next year! My wife is gonna KILL me
3) So now thats TWO trips I gotta take next year. My wife is gonna REALLY kill me
4) You need to keep an eye on that swamper of yours there. Looks like he's gonna end up bigger than you are. And yeah, I know, he SAYS he wants a Bullit Mustang, but I can tell my the pictures that what he SECRETLY covets, deep down inside, is his old man's ULTRA CHERRY 72 TA.
You got trouble freind............LOTS AND LOTS of trobule ;D
SWEET RIDE AND SWEET PICS MAN!
Gunner
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Awesome pictures! Wow you have one beautiful car! You have done a great job and looks like yall had a great time.
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That was a cool update!!!!
Thanks for sharing with us..
BTW...When did Kurt become old enough to drive?...lol
they grow up fast!! ;D
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Hey Pat! Great to see the pics of everyone on the road trip..... what an awesome time that must have been! Your boy wont soon forget any of those memories! Sounded very eventful! The signed jacket and the Pioneer radio for the GTO was a great bonus! Love to see any of her future adventures, and the Bullit's too when she's done. Class act dude!
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BUMP!!
If you want some great ideas and a lot of motivation then go through this thread.
Pat did amazing work and his attention to detail on this project was second to none
just spent the last couple hours going through it again