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Electrical / Re: Turn signals inoperative
« Last post by theck444 on October 15, 2023, 06:51:38 PM »
Well, now they are working.  I wish I knew what was wrong, but I’m not sure.  I spent the weekend troubleshooting, cleaning contacts, inspecting wires, and puzzling over the multi meter readings.  None of which helped.  Then I decided to check voltage again at the fuse box and when I pushed the probe onto the fuse holder I heard the flasher start clicking.  Now everything works fine.  So, maybe it’s a questionable contact between the fuse and the holder or some precarious short behind the fuse block that moved just right when I pushed on it with the probe?  This gremlin will most likely be back.
Thanks for the help b_hill.

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Electrical / Re: Turn signals inoperative
« Last post by theck444 on October 15, 2023, 03:26:43 PM »
Sure,I didn’t make it very clear.  I made a jumper wire to plug in where the turn signal flasher goes to hardwire the connection between the flasher input (pink/black wire) and the flasher output (purple wire).  With the key on and lever off, there is 12V at that jumper wire location.  If I select up or down on the lever, the voltage goes to near zero at that same location.
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Electrical / Re: Turn signals inoperative
« Last post by b_hill_86 on October 14, 2023, 07:34:28 PM »
Your 4th bullet point confuses me a little. Can you explain what you mean?

As for the following bullet point, you say “both cintactsare grounded with the lever down”. I don’t believe that should be the case. I’m no electrical engineer but I’ve don’t a fair amount of troubleshooting on my car. If you’re testing the contacts in the socket I’d consider unplugging the socket and test the terminals at the plug. Sockets can go bad. I had some strange grounding issues with my front sockets.

Your description of the brake lights going out is normal as you suspected. If all else fails, it’s possible your switch in the column is faulty. I don’t think they’re expensive. Just a small pain to change but not terrible.
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Restoration / MOVED: Turn signals inoperative
« Last post by RENOVATIONS on October 13, 2023, 07:10:04 AM »
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Electrical / Turn signals inoperative
« Last post by theck444 on October 13, 2023, 06:53:49 AM »
I’ve reached the point where I’ve exhausted my troubleshooting skills and need more opinions, so please help if you can.

1979 Firebird Trans Am that I’ve restored from scratch (so everything is my fault).  I’m in the 40-60 miles on the odometer phase and have worked out many bugs, but this electrical gremlin is kicking my butt.

Turn signals are inoperative and here is what I’ve put together so far:
- Hazard flashers, Headlights, taillights, dash gauges, and parking lights appear to function normally (all bulbs are correct)
- 11.6V to turn signal flasher (pink striped black wire) when key in “on” position, 0V when key off (believe that’s normal).
- Bench tested flasher and it functions (it’s also new)
- removed and jumped flasher to remove that variable and voltage is still there until turn signal is up or down where voltage goes to near 0 at that junction (this has me confused…where’s it going?).
- continuity checks are confusing:  From flasher output (purple wire) to front driver bulb (either contact) is open with signal lever off and 0 ohms with lever down.  Grounding tab at that bulb is a good ground. Both contacts are grounded with lever down (this is confusing to me, is that normal?).
- with brakes pressed and brake lights on, lever down turns off left rear brake light and lever up turns off right rear brake light (believe interrupting the brake light is normal, except the light is then supposed to flash).
- the battery is grounded to the engine block and core support.  Engine block is grounded to the sub frame and the firewall.
- the front light harness is grounded to the core support on both sides.  The rear light harness is grounded in the trunk and under near the fuel fill neck.

I think I’ve ruled out a bad flasher, some grounds, and bad or wrong bulbs.  Anything else?
Does that leave a bad ground somewhere other than what I said above and the turn signal switch?

Thanks in advance for any help.


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Misc. Items for Sale / Wanted TA Nationals Dayton Items
« Last post by NorwoodGMPlant on September 01, 2023, 09:49:38 PM »
Looking for any Trans Am Nationals Dash Plaques from the Dayton / Fairborn shows.  I need the following years.

Anything before 2010

2014
2015
2017
2018
2019

Also looking for any shirts or items from 2012.

Email to

michael.mcguffin@hotmail.com

If you can help.

Thanks,
Mike
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Trans Am Photos / Lowered my 1977 T/A
« Last post by drive615 on August 27, 2023, 02:08:21 PM »
The before shots of my leaf springs were crazy!!

https://youtu.be/puPXGsM_9h4
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Trans Am Photos / Re: Yellow W50 Formulas?
« Last post by Wallington on August 21, 2023, 07:04:22 AM »
We've gained 6 years in replies, seems like only 3.
Again, what year pic are you after?
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Trans Am Photos / Re: Yellow W50 Formulas?
« Last post by wheels78ta on August 21, 2023, 12:09:43 AM »
Here's a nice side shot
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Trans Am Photos / Re: Yellow W50 Formulas?
« Last post by Wallington on August 20, 2023, 02:56:02 AM »
I've lost 2 immediate family members to cancer, not sure it affected the forum.
Do you have a yellow W50? If so what year? Or just like them? I have the large original GM 1976 W50 advertising poster, one of the best looking Firebirds.
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