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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #885 on: May 02, 2011, 06:18:40 PM »
PPG rep came out today and tested the paint, and looked it over.  Soooooooooo I guess I good to go to paint it all again.
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #886 on: May 02, 2011, 06:20:37 PM »
What did the rep say ?


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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #887 on: May 02, 2011, 06:57:03 PM »
said it was the hardener for the clear crystallizing.   he told me he had only seen this once before,  more then 10 years ago.

in order to get such a long shelf life from it . they put nitrogen in the cans .  the nitrogen leeked out and the air caused it to age faster.  my can of hardener was about 2.5 years old . shelf life is 3 years.

they told me they will give me my money back for all the PPG stuff I used...  

or ,,OR..  

comp me all the PPG stuff for the 68 bird.   that from  epoxy ----------to---------- clear  
(up to the $$ amount spent on the 77)

its up to me on what I want to do..  
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #888 on: May 02, 2011, 07:51:06 PM »
Well, thats somewhat disappointing, but sounds like exceptional customer service; so, I'd call it a win!

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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #889 on: May 03, 2011, 03:33:12 AM »
I agree very good of PPG , nice to see that some customer relations are still alive !
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #890 on: May 05, 2011, 02:44:28 AM »
I've been watching the time you have put into that fine ride of yours and I'm glad that you have been given options by PPG.  It's impossible to put a dollar value on all the work you have done as well as the work left to do or redo.  If there is a possitive I could add it would be that you love the work and it keeps you out of trouble.  Best of luck on the direction you choose and I'm sure which ever way you decide, it will be another ride that most of us will wish we had in our garages.

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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #891 on: May 07, 2011, 10:18:08 AM »
thanks,  the ppg rep and the paint store is working to make it right.   all they can do is comp all the paint / clear. 

the rep told me , if he was to have the PPG corporate office get involved. I would not get JACK....  because they would say I didnt have a certified painter or paint area to work on the car.   and it wouldnt matter if there product was bad or not.

so Im not going to complain about the loss in labor.   the rep and paint store will comp me 1800.00 of materials for my 68 and gave me what I need to redo the 77.  that makes up for the loss in time and labor I guess.. 
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #892 on: May 07, 2011, 03:41:20 PM »
$1800 for the paint ? Is that what its cost you ? OMG.
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #893 on: May 07, 2011, 04:48:28 PM »
$1800 for the paint ? Is that what its cost you ? OMG.

yes , in all PPG materials used on the car.  just not the paint/clear.
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #894 on: May 08, 2011, 06:00:10 AM »
Im speechless.




For once perhaps. Still speechless.
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #895 on: May 08, 2011, 08:07:21 AM »
It's cool that you showed how much in paint and materials you have in your car.  When you add up every single thing from primer, sandpaper, filler and such it really adds up.  Back in the mid 90's when I painted my first bird I stripped it down and painted everything.  I had right around $1000 in materials. People thought I was nuts when I spent that much.
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #896 on: May 09, 2011, 02:12:38 PM »
Doug - I'm just getting caught up on this thread.  WOW, nice job.  I think you have another trophy winner in the making.  Can't wait to see the finished product.  Love the black paint.  It will be stunning!!  Your craftsmanship is incredible.

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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #897 on: May 10, 2011, 12:03:19 AM »
I just want to know whats taking you so long anyways...I figured you'd be driving it by now... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #898 on: May 10, 2011, 10:28:41 AM »
Yeah Doug, you already painted it twice.  The third time should be a breeze.  >:D
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Re: 77 W72 trans am Restoration ( roof swap )
« Reply #899 on: May 10, 2011, 01:18:41 PM »
I just want to know whats taking you so long anyways...I figured you'd be driving it by now... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you didnt get the memo.... he was driving it, and it was a road hazard for other drivers.... too many rubber neckers so he has to detune and modify the color a pigment.....haha
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