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Offline Justin

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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 05:24:42 PM »
I think that's what mine looks like. Looks like the orange and wire "ground" looking wires go together maybe. The picture is not very clear on my phone.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 05:46:29 PM »
I got new bulbs. Only the middle dome light is working still. I have the two joined wires hooked up which cause the middle light to come on when door is open. I flip the switch for the map lights and nothin happens. When I take the smaller white wire and touch it to the back of either map light they will turn on regardless if the switch is flipped because I'm just using the always hot wire. If I touch the smaller orange and white wire together everything shorts out. Not sure if something is supposed to be grounded or what.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 05:56:26 PM »




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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 06:10:03 PM »
After looking at the eBay auction picture and mine very closely it appears the only difference is my extra little white (hot) wire and the little orange wire looks like it tucks back inside somewhere
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 06:17:59 PM »
the map lights will work once the light frame is grounded to the body of the car

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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 06:48:01 PM »
^^He is correct. To test just hook the negitive to the light frame and the plus to the orange.  Looking at your wires I think all should work.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »
Good pics. by the way. Can't get any better.

I don't know why the one on ebay has 2 orange wire going inside. Maybe I missing something, but I don't think you need it.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 06:57:01 PM »
Good job guys. You passed the test. All lights work now. Next week we will discuss how to figure out why the horn button doesn't work.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 07:13:25 PM »
OH NO...Not the horn. :o

All works good? That's cool. Did you just tape of the extra wires?
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2011, 07:18:34 PM »
I haven't completely installed it because my headliner I just got done making is not quite in yet. I an just going to cut the wires flush and tape them off. I just tested it with the face off. Thanks again guys. I think as was mentioned this had an extra hot wire for a rear light. Only thing that makes sense. Man I got taken on this light. It was missing one of the map light lenses and just minor things like the wrong wiring.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2011, 10:02:42 PM »
The white wire isn't "hot" it's switched ground. 

You do have an extra white wire and an extra orange wire.  I don't know why, but these units were used in lots of makes and models.

Here's how the circuits work.  You actually have two circuits sort of.

The dome light:  The orange wire is always hot.  That white wire connects to the door switches and the headlight switch.  When the light is out, the doors are closed and the headlight switch is off.  While the circuit has 12+ it lacks a ground so the lamp cannot illuminate.  When you open a door or turn the headlight switch, the circuit is grounded and the DOME light will come on.  Note that the map lights stay off.  The terminals for the dome light are pressed into a plastic insulator that shields the terminal from the dome lights metal structure.  This shields the circuit from unwanted grounding.

The map lights:  The white wire doesn't come into play for this circuit.  The orange wire feeds 12+ to each socket.  There's a switch with a gray wire that also leads to the sockets.  The switch is for grounding/ungrounding the circuit.  When you move the switch, ground is achieved via the gray wire as the switch itself is grounded to the dome light metal housing.  The metal housing is grounded to the body of the car.  When the circuit is grounded, the map light comes on.

The light in your picture is slightly different than the ones I have which would explain the extra wires.

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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2011, 10:11:50 PM »
That makes a lot of sense. I thought the white wire was hot because if I touched it to the bulb housing it would light up. My dome light would never light up with the headlight switch. I thought it was just the switch so I replaced it with new. Still didn't work. Now that I replaced my shredded harness with one that is not cut or splices at all I am hoping this fixes my problem. Is there a common reason why the dome light would not work when the headlight switch is turned? I also didn't have cluster lights and have not yet had the opertunity to test them with the new harness. Hoping the harness fixes everything.
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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2011, 11:22:29 AM »
When you touched the white wire to the bulb housing it grounded the wire and completed the circuit.

I think all those white wires "bundle" somewhere in the harness.  If one gets cut, it can cause problems.  The headlight switch has a little ground strap that grounds it to the dash structure.  I think that's correct anyway.

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Re: Dome light with map/reading lights??
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2011, 08:49:14 PM »
Are there more attachment points for the deluxe light other then the two studs? Mine is not "hugging" the headliner very well and seems to be sagging down quit a bit on the front side.
Justin
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1979 Trans Am WS6 403