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Offline Schroeder

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2012, 01:41:42 PM »
here I will reveal the depths of my stupidity:  Before painting on saturday I sandblasted parts.  needless to say, I had sand on my body.  I'm guessing some of the stuff fell into the paint or hardener when I was mixing it and got in the paint gun can.  I hope I did not contain my whole store of rustoleum and hardener  :-/  I also hope its out of my gun.  I will need to strain my paint now. >:(

After such an event, I can see why you recommend the paint suit!

Offline joe d

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2012, 06:30:50 PM »
not stupid just a mistake, i would strain everything really well and clean the gun after complete disassembly
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Offline Elz

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #122 on: August 24, 2012, 09:29:02 AM »
Not stupid, smart people learn from their mistakes.

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #123 on: August 24, 2012, 06:32:49 PM »
I put my intake manifold gaskets on and placed my intake on.  This hole is visible!  What is this?  I'm guessing I have the wrong intake manifold gasket?am I suppose to get a "blocked d-port" gasket or something?  What is the ames part number for that gasket IF that is indeed what I need.  I don't remember this showing when I took it apart....



Offline trentonmakes

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #124 on: August 24, 2012, 07:16:16 PM »
Heat crossover
What gasket are you useing???
that can be filled in or your gasket should be notched to seal that
Depending upon year will determine which gasket to use

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #125 on: August 24, 2012, 07:22:33 PM »
Your gasket should have looked like this.....


And should line up with the head

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Offline Schroeder

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #126 on: August 24, 2012, 07:28:44 PM »
Heat crossover
What gasket are you useing???
that can be filled in or your gasket should be notched to seal that
Depending upon year will determine which gasket to use

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what does it do?  What do you mean it can be filled in?  With what?  If I cover it with gasket material it still isn't being covered by weight.  I'd think something should be over this hole with a gasket around it.  Do i have the wrong intake manifold or something?

Your gasket should have looked like this.....

And should line up with the head

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what do you mean it should line up with the head?  You mean the intake should overlap/cover that hole?  When I took this picture the intake was properly placed because all the bolt holes lined up.  I have the bolts in while this picture was taken.  Should the intake be wider and go out to the valve covers more?  Do I have the wrong intake? 
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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #127 on: August 24, 2012, 07:50:46 PM »

The bottom hole where the gasket goes around is the heat crossover, and the gasket you had on their is the one you want to be using.
(not actually the same one, but that style) lol

They can be filled in with jbweld but any gain would be minimal.

The part you see now, and above the crossover, is a blind hole.

Sorry, hard to tell from your pic
I think that is normal.

Im sure someone who knows more will chime in but i think your good.




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Offline Schroeder

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #128 on: August 24, 2012, 08:07:04 PM »
so that hole just sits open like that!? what if dirt gets in it?

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #129 on: August 24, 2012, 08:08:08 PM »
I believe so yes
Its a blind hole, nothing there, doesnt do anything

Pontiacs idea of air cooled???  lol
I dunno

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #130 on: September 03, 2012, 10:15:33 PM »
since I'm back at school now I have less time to work on my car, but I had some time this week.  I took the subframe off today, grinded all the crap off it, and primed it with rustoleum heavy rust primer (even though I had 98% of the rust off).  Here are some pics and some questions with them.



This next picture concerns me.  It appears my subframe is bent a bit.  The passenger side is 9/16" higher than the driver side.  Did someone have too big of an engine in this car at one time, torque the crap out of the frame from gunning it and stuff?  Or is this not a big deal.  If it is cause for concern can I simply bend the frame straight?



Here is how I measured the current position of my subframe in relation to the car.



Where do you guys jack the car up without the sub frame on?



Does my steering collar seem alright?  This is the part of the steering wheel that connects to the rag joint.  Is it in good shape?  Could it be causing any slop in steering?



Is this rag joint in ok shape?  Doesn't seem that there is any slop in it on the bolts that go through it.




Offline joe d

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #131 on: September 04, 2012, 07:14:47 AM »
looks okay in pic
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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #132 on: September 04, 2012, 09:11:18 AM »
looks okay in pic

What are you referring to joe d?  The uneven subframe (biggest concern), or the rag joint? 

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #133 on: September 04, 2012, 09:32:10 AM »
sorry Jordan, my computer was a snail this morning and i only saw the rag joint, as for the sub frame you will have to check the geometry to detrmine that
1979 ws6 trans am (current project)
2005 mercedes s55
2001 dodge durango
1980 SE trans am (new current project)
1971 Monte Carlo
the 5 p's "perfect planning prevents poor performance"

Offline Schroeder

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Re: a bit of work on my 77 TA
« Reply #134 on: September 04, 2012, 02:34:34 PM »
sorry Jordan, my computer was a snail this morning and i only saw the rag joint, as for the sub frame you will have to check the geometry to detrmine that

I will definitely check it out when I get home this weekend, but from looking at what's in the fisher body manual I'm 99% sure they're supposed to be the same height off the ground.  How can I straighten this?  I'm thinking of using some blocking and jackstands to push it down with our bucket-tractor.