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Title: OER Dashboards
Post by: richtata4sp on November 12, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Does anyone know if the long awaited OER dash pad is about to be released. I came across this auction on ebay. Release date 11-15-2010. Or is this a SCAM...Anyone?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OER-Dash-Pad-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aFirebirdQQhashZitem43a31d10beQQitemZ290499399870QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 4SPEED on November 12, 2010, 08:53:29 PM
did you email them? 

they probably have someone listing parts that doesnt know its not out yet. 

I hit the buy it now for 3 so I'll see if they send me an email saying something about it. 

every one needs to do the same.  they could be getting a head count of who wants one.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: RENOVATIONS on November 12, 2010, 09:25:51 PM
From auction:

"*PLEASE READ* - EBay has asked us to refer to this item as a Pre-Sale item, which means it's not guaranteed to be in stock, but is usually in stock and can ship in the time frame listed in Item Specifics. If in the event we are unable to meet the terms of eBay's Pre-Sale item fulfillment policy (eg. item is backordered for more than 30 days), you will be refunded for your purchase. Feel free to contact us for the most up-to-date availability on the item you are looking at."

I wouldn't hold my breath ;)
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 4SPEED on November 12, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
ya I saw that , I've seen that on a lot on selles listings.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 78ta on November 13, 2010, 01:16:05 AM
I emailed them. We'll see.....

This was at the bottom of the page. Cross your fingers that someone finally got it done.

Availability:   Out of stock until: 11/15/2010
Condition:   New
Brand:   OER
OEM:   10018005
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: BACnBLK on November 13, 2010, 01:25:09 AM
A big company like classic should be one of the first to get these.  I talked to them yesterday & while I was on the phone,  I asked about the 70-81 Dash-pad.  Same old story,  Not yet.  Radiator Support  Not yet,  70-81 Fender's,  Not yet.   :-\
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: HOMER on November 13, 2010, 08:08:18 AM
the company on this listing had a whole door shell for trans am awhile back think it was around 600 bucks but i havent seen them since.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Rarebird on November 13, 2010, 10:35:40 AM
this seems to be one of those items they only make limited numbers of... I recieved one of the 2nd run prototypes and was very pleased with it considering the shape my original was in. I gave rather positive feedback to classic ind. on the product except for the radio opening, it would have to be modified if one was putting in a original radio unit, but for a aftermarket old school radio unit it works very well since most had adjustable shaft positions. If I recall the rep at classics told me they would only recieve less than 100 units and get input from the customers before contacting the supplier. I had mine on order for nearly 8 months before I recieved it, I had actually thought of cancelling the order 3 days before I recieved it... glad I didnt now... may want to ask classic if you can be put on a list for this item if they will do so. your credit card will not be billed until shipment is made. patients and luck have to be the 2 things one has to practice on this much needed item.

http://www.78ta.com/smf/index.php?topic=5671.0
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Fbodywarehouse on November 14, 2010, 03:34:35 PM
I spoke with OER directly DO NOT BUY THIS FROM THEM unit is still in tooling

BUYERS BEWARE
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Fbodywarehouse on November 14, 2010, 03:43:21 PM
Here is how the stock process will be on the dash boards
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS DIRECT FROM THE PRODUCER AND SHOULD BE TAKEN AS THE FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT.

From our account manager at OER on 11/12/2010
The Trans Am Dashboard IS NOT AVIALABLE I repeat IS NOT AVAILABLE yet. They as they have said now for 3+ years are "really close" <--- Tounge in cheek there.

Now onto how the orders placed by everyone in the industry by all of the companies for clients and OER  distributors

WHEN the dashboards come out the order will be split between the OLD orders placed by Classic Industries BEGINNING in the LAST DECADE the units Classic Gets from OER will be filled in the order they will be recieved. PERIOD.

Hopping on CI's list now is too little too late.

The other half will go to OER distributers BASED on the DATE and YEAR they placed the stock order. An example our FIRST stock order was placed on this is about 2005 for 7 Units. We added to that order over the years BUT will only prpobably get the first 7 we ordered as they will run out long before all of the companies get ALL of the orders filled.'

I have seen some parts sellers say they are "Preferred" which is flat out BULL SHEEEEETTTTTT there simply put is no such thing. Year One or ourselves are all the same in this respect.
'
OER is not going to get 3000 of these units maybe more like 500 or 600. SO while I know you are excited guys DONT get SNAKE BIT by a small secondary company or a huge company looking to pad the pockets........

I hope this clears it up some for you all.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 4SPEED on November 15, 2010, 03:04:57 PM
this is the email I got from them.

OER had previously given us a time frame when more may have been available, and we have just checked for the updated availability. They informed us that it is taking longer than expected, and it may be 2 or 3 more months before additional pieces would be available. We have updated our information, and the listings should be coming down shortly.

If you still require the item after 2 months, please contact our office, and one of our associates can assist you.



Becky
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Car Parts Discount
Customer Support
(888) 437-4272
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Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Fbodywarehouse on November 15, 2010, 03:50:23 PM
Today's update from OER 11/15/2010 2 to 4 months.......
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 4SPEED on November 15, 2010, 04:01:43 PM
again?   I wonder what line of crap they will give us in 4 months. 
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 78ta on November 15, 2010, 11:08:24 PM
I got the same reply 4speed did.

OER had previously given us a time frame when more may have been available, and we have just checked for the updated availability. They informed us that it is taking longer than expected, and it may be 2 or 3 more months before additional pieces would be available. We have updated our information, and the listings should be coming down shortly.

If you still require the item after 2 months, please contact our office, and one of our associates can assist you.




Becky
--
Car Parts Discount
Customer Support
(888) 437-4272
(805) 520-2690
M-F 8am-5pm PST/PDT

Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Fbodywarehouse on November 16, 2010, 12:41:22 PM
Thats good to hear as the dash is still waiting to be approved by OER for general production so selling them right now is a general bad idea as a whole.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: TA78+99 on November 28, 2010, 03:57:15 PM
I agree with RareBird's advice - get on back order if you can.  While I haven't received mine yet, I have to think if these things are ever produced I'll get one eventually.  I've been on backorder with Classic almost three years now (since January 2008).  At the time I was backorder number 108 or something (that is how many backorders were ahead of me).  I checked earlier this year to see if they still had my backorder on record, credit card number etc. and they did.

My interior restoration is in a long line right now so no hurry.  At shows I cover the two small cracks with my PHS documentation. :) 
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: ta78w72 on December 06, 2010, 06:38:28 PM
My problem is solved.  Eunan and I found a nice camel tan dash at the salvage yard Saturday.  The dash (which has no cracks) was $61.99 and included all the gauges and the bezel.  Not a bad deal.  The only problem is it's a non deluxe dash and doesn't have the grab bar.  It does need to be dyed.

Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 4SPEED on December 07, 2010, 12:30:17 AM
I have a camel grab bar w/trim bezels you can have.  also needs dyed. 

work with ya on some nice front turn lights?  or some other part I might need down the road.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: ta78w72 on December 07, 2010, 08:46:32 AM
I have a camel grab bar w/trim bezels you can have.  also needs dyed. 

work with ya on some nice front turn lights?  or some other part I might need down the road.
I've got the grab bar on the dash that's in the car now.  Thanks for the offer.  I wish you were my next door neighbor though.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: Falcon4 on December 23, 2010, 04:16:01 AM
This is as bad as 78 - 80 Camaro Tail lights.  Can't get them for love nor money. I paid US$350.00 for a set on "buy it now", only to be told that the listing was a mistake.......BS.  I believe they do that to gauge expressions of interest before they produce them.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: ta78w72 on May 29, 2011, 12:38:16 PM

junk.pure junk-trim this-trim that-trim ash bezel-good luck-just spend the money nos.

Do you have an nos camel tan dash for a 78?  I'd be happy to look at it if you do.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on May 29, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
I still don't understand what takes sooooo long.  We in the auto industry have designed entire cars, tooling to build those cars and found suppliers to build parts in less time than it's taken to get this dash right.  Oh and I have the tooling to make these hidden away in a special spot, i'm just holding out :P
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: ta78w72 on May 29, 2011, 01:38:07 PM
If you hold out too long you'll miss the bubble.  If you really do have the tooling to make dashes....you should find a partner and go for it. 
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on May 29, 2011, 02:24:25 PM
HA! I wish I had the tooling! But hey! I do design that sort of tooling for a living ;)
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: brian c on June 02, 2011, 09:37:16 AM
I still don't understand what takes sooooo long.  We in the auto industry have designed entire cars, tooling to build those cars and found suppliers to build parts in less time than it's taken to get this dash right.  Oh and I have the tooling to make these hidden away in a special spot, i'm just holding out :P

Simple - cost. The cost of tooling is extremely high. So you have to insure that you have enough demand to cover the initial investment in the tooling. And then you also have to have enough demand to cover the cost of materials and labor to actually make the product. And you have to be able to compete with restoration companies like Just Dashes and Dashboard Restorations (a couple that come to mind).

So in this particular instance, they have to know that their Return On Investment (ROI) will be there to offset all the initial costs.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on June 02, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
I understand the ROI theory Brian, I really do.  What I don't get is, that they've already guaged interest or they wouldn't be doing it at all.  Not to mention the reason why the restoration prices are so high is that there is virtually no other choice besides a dash cap, finding a pristine dash in a bone yard or paying top dollar for a good used or even higher NOS.  We all know that finding a great dash in a bone yard (let alone a whole 2nd gen) is becoming increasingly harder to do.  So, if they can keep the price reasonable (under the restoration companies) they've got the market cornered!! Jackpot!!  But at the same time, the quality must be top notch... I know the quality of the restorations are top notch.  I've heard that the repop dashes are hard like the dash caps.  Never seen one myself so I cannot confirm.  This however suggests to me that they are cutting corners to increase ROI.  Not a smart choice IMO.  Of course, i'm not in line for one, nor will I be until I see them for myself or read lots of positive reviews here from you guys.  I design this type of tooling everyday for a living, so I can attest to it's price.  Boy it ain't cheap!  But after all these years and taking peoples money, you'd think they'd get it done, and done right...  Just my two cents :)
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: brian c on June 02, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
Quote
But after all these years and taking peoples money,

See that's where you're incorrect. They haven't taken a dime of anyone's money until they have actually shipped the dash to the customer. All that they have right now is a long waiting list.

Yes that indicates a need but they won't see that until they can produce an actual product. And I wonder how many people on that waiting list have actually decided to stop waiting and just repair their dash themselves OR send it out to a pro to have them do it.

And a thing to remember - these repop dashes are only coming in black. It's the only color they've listed for years. So for those of us with different color interiors, we have to decide if its worth trying to dye/paint a black part to match the rest of our interior. I can say from experience on the Y88 that IF I had known how badly my repop sail panels would be chewed up, I wouldn't have purchased them and instead pursued a set of original GM parts that were already camel tan and just needed a coat of dye/paint to refinish. I will say for the 80 Firebird that any panel that needs to be replaced will have an original GM part in its place - interior is red.

IF they were to come out with other colors, I think I'd consider one. For now, I'll just repair the dash in the 80 after having spent $770 on Just Dashes to do the Y88 (that was a few years back and I've heard the price is now over $1k to do a dash).
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on June 02, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
I stand corrected on that.  I guess if they had taken peoples money there would be a definite LOUDER push to have these produced NOW.  I haven't dealt with any of the repop interior stuff yet.  I've only just begun my project, or restarted, or hell I don't know anymore.  Lol! but i'm sure i'll be dealing with that interoir issue soon enough.  :o
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: kentuckyyeti on June 02, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
The years-long waiting list got really short, Brian.  I sold a 79 400 4-speed locally.  The guy ordered the dash last fall, and got it this February IIRC.  Most people had given up according to YearOne, and so new orders were filled pretty fast until they ran out of the first run.  BTW- we put it in last weekend and it fit great.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on June 02, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
Question is Mike, how did it look and feel? Is it soft like the originals or harder like the caps?
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: kentuckyyeti on June 02, 2011, 11:55:50 PM
It was soft- like an original?  I don't remember their exact feel from 30 years ago, but it isn't a hard dash cap.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: jmurray878 on June 03, 2011, 08:08:02 AM
LOL! good point... I don't remember the feel of a dash when it was new either.  I was only 5 when my 79's were new  ;D  I had heard that they were more rigid, thats why i ask
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: brian c on June 03, 2011, 08:41:14 AM
The years-long waiting list got really short, Brian.  I sold a 79 400 4-speed locally.  The guy ordered the dash last fall, and got it this February IIRC.  Most people had given up according to YearOne, and so new orders were filled pretty fast until they ran out of the first run.  BTW- we put it in last weekend and it fit great.

That's what I pretty much figured. IF I had been waiting on one for the Y88, I wouldn't have driven the car since paint was finished in '07. Heck, I sent the dash to Just Dashes in '05 so tack 2 more years onto that IF I had actually decided to order from Classic. That's an awful long time for anyone to wait.

Where's the pics Mike? Need to see the new tooling ;D
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: kentuckyyeti on June 03, 2011, 09:01:01 AM
I didn't think to bring my camera when I went over to his place.  I wish now that I had gotten on the list last year- they are saying it'll be another year before the next run.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: vidguy on June 13, 2011, 12:34:44 PM
I received and installed mine which I ordered in person at CI in Huntington Beach in Feb 09.
At the time the guy showed me the list and I was 350th or so on the list. I got 2 phone calls 2 weekends ago that it was in. So I went ahead and paid. I got it in 3 days.
I'm not sure why I was "chosen" to get a call for this limited run.

I am guessing that many people above me cancelled, moved and couldn't be reached or sold the cars?

It looks ... new. It is an excellent piece. Went in real well. No real issues. It's soft.
Especially for the money which I think is real fair. Use a 15% off coupon, I could of picked it up for $340 + tax.
If you look at the part, it is VERY complex. With a metal frame that gets attached, etc..
I can see why it has taken 3-4 runs to get it right, but I think its easily "Excellent" quality. Now I have not fitted my Radio :-) but everything else was either spot on or very close, with only mounting hole alignment issues that were really pretty minor.

Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: RENOVATIONS on June 13, 2011, 12:38:02 PM
Good to know...any pictures?
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: vidguy on June 13, 2011, 12:46:41 PM
I'll put up some photos tonight. I posted some of the box and the part when I got it over here:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjuUBRr8

This changes entirely the value of old dashes IMO.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: RENOVATIONS on June 13, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
That's really good to hear...elaborate on the mounting/alignment issues when you have time please.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: vidguy on June 13, 2011, 05:34:43 PM
I installed it yesterday.

Everything went well.  Took about 5 hours for Remove and Replace with me spending about an hour diddling with other parts associated with it.
A 3 beer job.

What Can I say.. It looks new.. And I had just restored mine with the padded dash filler and bedliner a few months ago thinking I wont wait... So I will be selling that not original looking but perfectly uncracked and flat dash!

The only issues, and I'll post pics tonight of a few steps. were,

The Color.
If you are doing Black. I dont think its as Black as the other parts. But I opted to not spray it. It is very hard to notice in the environment of the car. Glovebox looks different. I may take that off and spray a mix of blacks and grays as a test to see If I can match it better.

No Hardware.
After doing it, it would be good to get a kit with it, or buy one maybe from F-Body Warehouse where I got mine a long time back.
I'd also first ID all the screws and chase them into the new holes first. That would have made it easier.. I didnt.

1) The Driver's side Dash Vent fits tightly. It doesn't rotate smoothly. I filed the holes a little and filed off some mold parting line flash but it needs some more dressing to be free like the stock.. I really dont care. I'll leave it. It does move but its glitchy.

2) The Studs coming down from the top were not in alignment with (or my car was a bit off) the metal dash tabs/holes they fit into. About 1/8 to 1/4 inch. I had to push the dash hard to the passenger side to get them into the holes in the metal dash. Could be completely a car to car difference.

It mounts with 3 screws on the instrument area that screw up into plastic. Studs on the Passenger side that take speed nuts. The far most drivers side plastic hole was tough to get in line with the opening in the metal dash I had to push it towards the front of the car. But a little pushing and I got it.

3) The 4 Gauge Pod Mounting holes might be a few hundredths to the Driver side. I'll have to check that again I didn't button the gauges up there could be something (Wire Harness) pushing it from the rear. The screws were not lining up EXACTLY.  Not a big deal

No hole for GloveBox Light Mount.. Drilled one.

Everything else fit well.
I have to say that for this price.... The value of used dashes has just fallen 300 dollars. And Just Dashes might feel some hurt.

I did see two flaws.
1) A small slice in the pad near the Defroster switch where they must of cut it when cleaning the silicon off the part after molding it I guess. I saw a lot of silicon residue and scratch marks on the plastic part near there that you mount the Vent and cig lighter defroster plate to. The little cut is about 1/8 inch long. I could make a stink but it's very, very small and I really am not bothered.

2) A place under the top about 1 inch around. Its right where the Dash Bezel  metal "hood" ends towards the driver. (I'll never see it) where the texture is smoother. They must have repaired a flaw.
Again.. I really am not bothered.

For the price it's fantastic. it is soft and pliable and you can see the foam and how it is constructed.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: RENOVATIONS on June 13, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Excellent well written review...thank you
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: vidguy on June 14, 2011, 01:24:37 AM
Thanks. I dont think there's anyway you'll get an original to look this good for this price. It may not be perfect but are any of the originals out there?
No way. And none of the plastic is broken or holes stripped like the originals. I just can't see any complaints. Now if it was an $800.00 part.. well then I'd be less forgiving..

For the price it's a great deal. Heck you could buy two for the cost of a single Just Dashes redo.
I coulda picked this up at CI in SO Cal (almost had my son do that for me) for 340 and change.

I added some more pics of the part as it was being installed. I'll take some more of it in the car tomorrow after work.
same link. Go about half way down for the install shots. Starting with a shot of the Center Vent attached. I added some comments.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjuUBRr8

Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: brian c on June 14, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
Looks pretty darn good to me. Thanks for posting!!

Now if I only had a car with a black interior that needed a dash....
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: vidguy on June 14, 2011, 09:47:39 AM
They can be dyed for sure! Using SEM.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: brian c on June 14, 2011, 04:26:31 PM
Already been that route with my sail panels and rear quarter trim. Minute it gets nicked you see the color underneath.
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: luckyone on June 14, 2011, 08:19:19 PM
great write up.. looks nice!
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: medicman on June 23, 2011, 10:33:06 AM
They are out. I paid classic industries and I have my UPS tracking number. It is in Windsor at the border waiting for clearance. It weighs 26.4 pounds and I should be getting it tomorrow, I was expecting it May 28th but the wrong address was on the slip and it was returned to sender. I will post pics of it as soon as I get it.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: SCTA on June 24, 2011, 10:09:24 PM
We at Southern Classic Trans Ams purchased 2 of the OER dash pads and have installed one of them on our "Super Bandit" that is currently for sale on ebay in the '79 Trans Ams. The fit was nice with its only drawback being made for the smaller radio opening. You can see it installed in our detailed pictures. The ad runs untill 7-3-11. Call me if you want more info on it. Bill 919-639-4702
Does anyone know if the long awaited OER dash pad is about to be released. I came across this auction on ebay. Release date 11-15-2010. Or is this a SCAM...Anyone?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OER-Dash-Pad-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aFirebirdQQhashZitem43a31d10beQQitemZ290499399870QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
From auction:

"*PLEASE READ* - EBay has asked us to refer to this item as a Pre-Sale item, which means it's not guaranteed to be in stock, but is usually in stock and can ship in the time frame listed in Item Specifics. If in the event we are unable to meet the terms of eBay's Pre-Sale item fulfillment policy (eg. item is backordered for more than 30 days), you will be refunded for your purchase. Feel free to contact us for the most up-to-date availability on the item you are looking at."

I wouldn't hold my breath ;)

Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: RENOVATIONS on June 25, 2011, 04:36:29 PM
Sounds good...but I'm still glad I didn't hold my breath.... for 8 months  :D :D
Title: Re: OER Dashboards
Post by: 78&89TA on July 19, 2011, 06:22:39 PM
 looks great !  looking forward to complete pics :)