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Trans Am Information => Trans Am Information => Topic started by: Hollywood on August 22, 2011, 04:48:53 PM
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Hey guys I have a client buying a new interior for his 77 Y82. He tells me the car is a hard top with firethorn/white interior. I thought this was strange but then he emailed me the PHS and they wrote on it, Black exterior with firethorn/white interior. It also lists Y-82 special edition package but also states hard top coupe. Take a look and let me know what you think. Is it a t-top delete car?
I will post the PHS shortly I have to figure out how to delete his name and info off of it first. Stupid PDF's
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That would make it Y81 (hardtop 77 SE were Y81)with an extremely rare interior combo
Make sure you get some pics once it's done...very cool
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Larry send pics to HPP they are doing articles on factroy freaks ie that interior combo.
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I'm pretty sure it either has to be a Y81 or a Y82. I know the 79 Y84s had a t-top delete, but I don't think they had a Y82 T-top delete car in 77.
Off subject here, but where there any Y82 hardtops in 78?
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will get it done asap. I finally spoke to the guy (not thru email this time) and he states the cars IS a t-top car, but the phs list 2 door hardtop. you will see. i havent had chance to convert that pdf file yet but will.
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... I finally spoke to the guy (not thru email this time) and he states the cars IS a t-top car, but the phs list 2 door hardtop. ..l.
Didn't all the 77s come from the factory as hardtops?
Weren't they then sent to Hurst for the Hurst Hatch to be installed?
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from this info you could get them either way (go to options)
http://www.tran-zam.com/1977Main.htm
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Interesting find. But I need to see the build sheet or the PHS.
Herrel, I believe you are correct. And I think fb rider is correct about Y81's being hardtops for 1977 as there were 1861 SE's made without t-tops.
you mean Trans Am Oz...1977 hardtop SE's were given the code Y81
Fb rider..no there are no 1978 Y84,Y82 or Y88 hardtops
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Ok I have attached his PHS report. Yes my thinking is that all the cars came as hard tops. Once you ordered the t-tops they were given the y82 code and and the tops installed. Is this correct or am I way off. Anyways, the owner tells me he found this in a field in washington state and purchased it for 5000. He promised to send pics as he is going to pick it up this week.
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In 76' all LEs were Y82 with a few not having the ttops installed due to leaking issues
In 77 all SEs were Y81 (no ttops) or Y82 (with ttops).
In 78 all SEs were Y82, Y84 or Y88 and all were documented as ttops. I don't know of any documented SE's in 78 that had a hard top.
In the case for any Y81 or Y82 the cars were completed as black TAs with whatever interior was ordered and then shipped to a hurst installer\dealer where all of the specific interior pieces were replaced with gold accented pieces. The tops were installed at the hurst place during this time, with the decals and striping being installed last. Then the cars were shipped to their dealerships.
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ah my topic was moved to die a slow death
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In the case for any Y81 or Y82 the cars were completed as black TAs with whatever interior was ordered and then shipped to a hurst installer\dealer where all of the specific interior pieces were replaced with gold accented pieces. The tops were installed at the hurst place during this time, with the decals and striping being installed last. Then the cars were shipped to their dealerships.
Hurst didn't fit the gold inserts / dash bezel, this was done by Pontiac at the time of the car build along with the decals. Hurst only fitted the T-Tops.
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ah my topic was moved to die a slow death
It was moved to the proper category........
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I understand but we know what happens when things get moved "off the beaten path" so to speak
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I am interested in any response to Hollywood's combo query as I bought this car and I am tring to figure out what to do with that weird 97N Firethorn/White interior.
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where's the pics you promised?
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i will work on it. I will set up a photobucket account and throw you a couple. I have a video that shows the interior well. Do you know if i can throw that on here or not?
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OK, i have a video i shot with my cell phone when i loaded it, not the best quality but it will have to do. Not sure what is up with the rear spoiler lettering or that optional hood hold down that is missing (that must have been a dealer add) ;). They are at photobucket, not sure if the link will work so you may have cut and paste until i figure that out.
The vidoe was too large to send from my phone is one peice so there are three parts (just like Star Wars, also from 1977)
In spite of the apprearance of the quarters and trunk drops the floor was perfect. The paint is a baked on finish.
It's not a Cecil B Demill production, (more like the Blair Witch Project) but you get the idea.
"And remember, this is for posterity so be honest"
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/h345/bmaxwell2/Trans%20Am%20Videos/?action=view¤t=IMG_0360-2.mp4
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/h345/bmaxwell2/Trans%20Am%20Videos/?action=view¤t=IMG_0360.mp4
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/h345/bmaxwell2/Trans%20Am%20Videos/?action=view¤t=IMG_0360-1.mp4
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look like you have a lot of work ahead of you. its good to see another one saved. keep us updated on the progress and let me know if i can help. I'm sure Brett will be able to help you out as well.
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when i see those type of color contrasts i have to believe its dealer order mistakes. red has never been a fav int color for me. if it had black dash/white seats maybe
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i have to agree. It just doesn't fit the car. I cant believe anyone actually ordered it this way.
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when i see those type of color contrasts i have to believe its dealer order mistakes. red has never been a fav int color for me. if it had black dash/white seats maybe
I know a guy here in Norway with a 74' SD-455, and he got white exterior with blue hood bird, and red\white interior :P
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And by the way, I actually think it would look cool with the red\white interior on the Y82 ;) Although Black looks better in a black car ;)
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Very cool. Can you send a picture of that interior? I would love to see it restored. I agree with you on that black on black comment, it does look best in my opinion.
I'm back in the garage today removing the dash and emptying that subframe. Not much left now except for a blank canvas. Next up, reconstruction.
Thank you for your comments, very appreciated.
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I can see if I can get some pics next time I see the the SD-455 T\A ;)
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Since you've brought up the red with white seats in a black car, I've seen a couple on the forums. Here's a 79 in this thread: http://www.78ta.com/smf/index.php?topic=34244.0
And a 77 Formual here: http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=46022.0
Although I think the red and white is kind of sporty, and it would be cooler to sit in during the summer, it wouldn't be my first choice. Black interior always looks good in the black cars, but I live in the South, so black interior is too hot for my liking. In a 77, I'd go with all firethorn red inside, since I like that red, and it goes with a black car. I think it's the best looking interior in a 77. Here's a small pic I found on the internet:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/67SS427/77FirethornRedInterior.jpg)
When I paint my 79 black, I'm going with camel tan, like in this 79 dealer brochure:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/67SS427/79tainbrochure_0001-Copy.jpg)
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wonder what she looks like now
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Good question :) . She must be early to mid-50's by now.
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I like that red interior shot, thanks. Sometimes it is easier to see it then to visualize it. Im doing the body work now, i will keep you posted when it is time to chose a direction on the interior.
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You're welcome. Here's the site that I got the 77 red interior shot from. It's great for comparing original interior colors for each year: http://tran-zam.com/1977/1977_Interiors.htm
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wow, there is an exact picture of the firethorn/white custom interior that is what my car was born with. wow, that idoesnt look good.
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this SD got the same interior your car was born with :) http://transamflorida.com/245MSTRANSAM1974sd.htm
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nice catch, i like it in that red SD. Not sure about a black and gold SE. I am cutting and welding now, i hope to turn my attention inside by January.
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this SD got the same interior your car was born with :) http://transamflorida.com/245MSTRANSAM1974sd.htm
still prefer black, but that aint bad
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nice catch, i like it in that red SD. Not sure about a black and gold SE. I am cutting and welding now, i hope to turn my attention inside by January.
Yeah it probably looks better in a red car ;) Good luck with the rest of the restoration of the car :)
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this SD got the same interior your car was born with :) http://transamflorida.com/245MSTRANSAM1974sd.htm
she looks nice...weird colour combo but i like it because its different,you dont see it now days so i think its cool
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i found something else you dont see everyday when i removed the front fender, someone cut open the left hand cowl and made a 6 inch square hatch. There is no good reason for it other than secret stash bin. I think my bandit was a mule.
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Better call Sgt. Stedenko!