Topic: 02 Firebird a classic?

[Kasper112]

Do u think it will become a collector's car or a classic in 7-10 more years? Would it be in bad taste to make this bird more like a tuner car? I have several more years of service left, i dont have

[Kasper112]

much else to daydream about. =) So how many 02 FB V6 automatic, grey cloth interior, Navy Blue Metallic exterior did they make? I've always heard you can tuned (mod?) a v6 to be faster than a v8 , but

[Kevin]

I mean I think they all have the potential to be collector cars, but I don't think there's anything wrong with messing with it to your tastes. When you say tuner, are we talking big wings and body kits or are we talking muscle engine mods, tint, bigger rims etc? Tuner to me is fast and the furious knuckleheads. With these cars, it's basically taboo.

As far as it being a classic, I think the 02 is a better classic candidate than the third gen t/a's. To me at least. The last year is definitely going to be sought after when it's all said and done I think.

As far as the engine, I mean, if you get real excited, you could swap in an LS1 maybe or any higher powered V8. Most guys will steer you away from Chevy, but I don't see anything wrong with it. For resale value, anything you do will affect the amount of money you will get out of it. However with that being said, I would keep the rims you may swap out for new ones in case, keep any parts you take off and store them, and document everything that's done and keep receipts. Common sense. Stuff like suspension I can't see as being a negative as far as upgrading, but it's not a bad idea, to keep all the old stuff just in case..

[Kasper112]

not tune a v8 to beat a v6. i dont know if thats true at all, something about the air intake and super charging. Also, whats with the paint bubbles on my roof? Pics in the gallery under same usexname.

[Kevin]

This http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/v/Kasper112/SSPX0521.jpg.html?

[Kevin]

Type     Trans      CID    HP    Torque      Induction
01 LS1 V8    A4,M6     346/5.7    310@5200     335@4000     MFI
01 WS6 SS    A4, M6    346/5.7    325@5200    335@4000    MFI
02 LS1 V8    A4, M6    346/5.7    310@5200    340@4000    MFI
02 WS6 & SS    A4, M6    346/5.7    325@5200    340@4000    MFI
3800 V6     A4, M5    231/3.8    200@5200    225@4000    SFI


Production figures



A total of 30,690 Firebirds were built for worldwide distribution..
Sold orders (ordered by customer specifically) 4,454
Fleet orders 721

5,192 were Convertible models

23,648 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels

26,391 had FE9 Federal Emissions System
2,018 had NG1 Northeast Emissions System
2,269 had YF5 California Emissions System

20,769 had the LS1 Gen III V8 Engine (67.7%)
9,921 had the L36 3800 Series V6 (32.3%)

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
5,934 had U1S 12 Disc CD changer (19.3%)

14,908 had the WS6 Ram Air Package (48.6%)

1,500 had the WU6 Firehawk Package (4.9%)

2,391 had the Z15 Collector Package (7.8%)


Convertible Top Colors:

10T White 137 units
41T Black 4,455 units
56T Taupe 600 units


Total Firebird Color Breakdown:

10U White 2,918 9.5%
11U Pewter 4,302 14.0%
13U Silver 3,089 10.1%
28U Dk Blue 3,290 10.7%
41U Black 7,572 24.7%
44U Maple 867 2.8%
54U C/E Yellow 2,391 7.8%
71U S.O.M. 1,208 3.9%
81U Red 5,053 16.5%

Interior Breakdown:

19B Ebony Cloth 7,378 24.0%
192 Ebony Leath 14,832 48.3%
194 C/E Leather 2,391 7.8%
52B Taupe Cloth 1,078 3.5%
522 Taupe Leather 2,230 7.3%


FIREBIRD V6 COUPE 8,423 units (11.6% of production)

1,000 units had MM5 Manual transmission (11.9%)
7,423 units had MX0 Automatic Transmission (88.1%)

2,567 units had NW9 Traction control (30.5%)
7,375 had FE9 Emissions (87.6%)
425 had NG1 Emissions (5.0%)
619 had YF5 Emissions (7.3%)

6,573 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels (78%)

2,056 had Y87 Performance package (24.4%)

10U 982 units
11U 1,470 units
13U 1,188 units
28U 946 units
44U 415 units
41U 1,545 units
71U 372 units
81U 1,505 units


V6 Convertible 1,498 units (2.1% of production)

All had MX0 Automatic Transmission
401 had NW9 Traction Control
1,233 had FE9 Emissions
66 had NG1 Emissions
199 had YF5 Emissions

34 had 10T white conv. top
1,268 had 41T black conv. top
196 had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 289 units
11U 294 units
13U 102 units
28U 88 units
41U 114 units
44U 213 units
71U 28 units
81U 370 units


FORMULA COUPE 901 UNITS 1.2% OF PRODUCTION

409 units had MN6 6-speed transmission
492 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
473 units had NW9 Traction Control

729 had FE9 Emissions
95 had NG1 Emissions
76 had YF5 Emissions

167 had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 70 Units
11U 124 units
13U 90 units
28U 142 units
41U 244 units
44U 42 units
71U 51 units
81U 138 units


TRANS AM COUPE 3,962 5.5% OF PRODUCTION

1,591 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
2,371 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
2,732 units had NW9 Traction Control

3,345 units had FE9 Emissions
273 units had NG1 Emissions
344 units had YF5 Emissions

1,131 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 343 units
11U 408 units
13U 408 units
28U 474 units
41U 1,215 units
44U 145 units
71U 135 units
81U 834 units


TRANS AM CONVERTIBLE 998 UNITS (1.4% OF PRODUCTION)

235 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
763 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
578 units had NW9 Traction control

858 units had FE9 Emissions
71 units had NG1 Emissions
67 units had YF5 Emissions

[Kasper112]

whoa thats pretty awesome man. im impressed i googled i promise but didnt find anything like that. My car is "rare''(er) than i thought. I like the f&furious cars, but i didnt wanna say it lol

[Kasper112]

this is what i spendmy day thinking about. changing the interior cloth into a blue suade leather, and beefing up the engine to a v8, maybe even to one of those that sits  ontop the hood? lol

[HOMER]

looks like your roof got very hot, or someone painted it and wasnt very good at there job

[Kasper112]

a really nice custom paint job, but i dont wanna be the douche who ruins a classic car. guess i'll buy another to play with. I'll customize one all to hell and pay someone to restore the other.

[Kasper112]

basically i have 30,000 to blow, i love cars, especially ta's and the wide bodies, i may not know how they run whats in them, but i respect and fully depend on those who do. =)

[LOMILETA]

The roof was definitly painted before, and they did NOT prep it correctly.

[Kasper112]

i wonder why it had been painted over? maybe it had little paint chips and the dealership had it touched up?  (incorrectly touched up) i wouldnt put it past the sneaky sob's.

[Kevin]

If you paid them for the job, then that's definitely NOT right. No paint should have bubbles in it. There's nothing wrong with tweaking those cars, just make sure you save all the original stuff and store it away and keep it all clean. I always like leather/vinyl better than cloth, but it does get hot. Tint that thing up and cool it down. Maybe look into new rims/tires, upgrade the suspension etc etc. If you have that much money to mess with I bet you could really get a nice motor for that one/do the suspension and maybe get yourself a 2nd gen t/a project for the hell of it. I do like the navy blue, those are slick cars for sure.

Or, if that's going to be a daily driver, if you're interested in 2nd gen t/a's I would get one of those to play with and tweak maybe for a pro-touring car. Those engine swaps are way easier than messing with newer cars for sure. With the newer ones you have to deal with computers and all that. But I like the way yours looks. Nice color and I bet it's fun as it is. But ultimately it's up to you.

[Kasper112]

well when i say to blow, i mean spend. I still have four years in the Navy, so anything can happen. with that being said, i may be absent in the forums for about a year or so, dont delete me please =)