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Offline RENOVATIONS

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Re: y 88s
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 02:15:23 PM »
as for the y 84 its stanped on the cowl plate

You mean Y88, right?
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 02:16:44 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2010, 02:30:39 PM »
Funny, that picture proves what I was saying.  Compare the dirty brown/gold color of that wheel to your picture.  The wheels in this picture are of the 1978 WS6 wheels.  Those are not standard on all Y88 cars unless they got the WS6 package.

Also, that's nowhere near an original car.

Go here and read "myth #9"
http://www.firebirdtransamparts.com/bandit/myth.htm
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 02:31:35 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-Trans-Am-1978-Trans-Am-Gold-SE-Smokey-Bandit-Firebird-Muscle_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad6711a7cQQitemZ390144793212QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

here is an original y88 right now proves mine and bretts theroy yet again

I wouldn't call that an "original" car since it has a 455 ;)

And you need to consider the source before using this seller as reference since this is the guy that gives away free cereal with every purchase  :D :D :D
(he also mistakenly calls the snowflakes "honeycombs"  :P )
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2010, 02:33:42 PM »
Actually the 15x8 wheels were ALL painted like early in 78 that Rick. Sometime mid-year thay changed all but the Y88 15x 8 wheels to the machined lip. Check out my Spotlight page
http://www.78ta.com/smf/index.php?topic=5059.0,   These wheels were FACTORY installed, as I have the buils sheet to prove it, and I can trace the car Back to the original owner. Also the black taillight surround is also a ALL 78 thing. Most people dont do this when they repaint the car.
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2010, 02:34:03 PM »
Here's a pic of 1 of 2 of the original gold '78 15x8 rims I have which shows the correct darker/dirty gold Russ mentions

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2010, 02:37:03 PM »
Yep, and check out the link I posted as an edit.

Also, let's clear up something else.  The black tail did not come on ALL 1978 Trans Ams.  That's one change that happened sometime during or after January 1978.
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2010, 02:40:44 PM »
Agreed...I have a service bulletin which dates the change to black bezels in/around March '78.

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Re: y 88s
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2010, 02:42:26 PM »
Sorry, but I was trying to say is that it was NOT just on Y88 cars, neither were the wheels.
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2010, 03:00:01 PM »
But, on the black tail light bezel.  Does anyone know the process they went through to paint the bezel?  I didn't realize this until John007 pointed it out on my Y88, but it does look like the bezel was color coded gold then sprayed black over the gold.  So, they must have added a step to make the bezel black if that was the case.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2010, 04:13:19 PM »
I wasnt making a mention of the color of the wheel i was talking about how it was painted. the color of the wheels on my former y88 were repainted by me in that picture, paint supplied by hitman. I wasnt arguing that so please dont think i was.... I was talking about how its painted. I also was not stating that only y88's came with black tails rather that all y88's came with black tails never color keyed to the car like early regular 78's were. (non y88) As far as using that car I linked as refference, I could have shot you 100 pictures easily found on the net. my big problem is every single y88 i found on the net has 8in wheels and the only one that didnt were not even gold. I think you missed my points and instead just quick to want to argue rather than reading what i was actually saying.
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2010, 04:50:56 PM »
he has two se's the y88 with proof being build sheet and the y84 whith is stamped on the cowl plate
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Re: y 88s
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2010, 06:09:08 PM »
well by all means buddy if he has proof by build sheet and its savable go and get her despite all the disagreement on here.
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2010, 06:59:18 PM »
I wasnt making a mention of the color of the wheel i was talking about how it was painted. the color of the wheels on my former y88 were repainted by me in that picture, paint supplied by hitman. I wasnt arguing that so please dont think i was.... I was talking about how its painted. I also was not stating that only y88's came with black tails rather that all y88's came with black tails never color keyed to the car like early regular 78's were. (non y88) As far as using that car I linked as refference, I could have shot you 100 pictures easily found on the net. my big problem is every single y88 i found on the net has 8in wheels and the only one that didnt were not even gold. I think you missed my points and instead just quick to want to argue rather than reading what i was actually saying.

Here's what you said:
"gold snow flake wheels all except the outter flat edge on 7 in and 8 inch wheels"

Which upon rereading...makes no sense at all.  What exactly were you trying to say?  My point was there is nothing special about the Y88 wheels.  They got the same wheels as the other Trans Ams.  It may be that they came with snowflakes, while the other Trans Am's could come with rally wheels.  The other thing I was wondering was whether or not the Y88 could be ordered with gold accented rally wheels.  That I don't have a clue about (and I don't know why someone would want that).

If you were saying that all Y88's got the 15X8 wheels, I don't think that's true.  If you read Joe Bay's Myth #9 you'll see that is a common misconception.  Also, check out his picture of "gold fever".  It's a Y88 without the WS6 option and it has the 15X7 wheels that have the machined unpainted edges.

The 1978 WS6 15X8 wheel was a one year wonder.  In my opinion, it's not as nice as the wheel that took it's place.  But my Y88 has those original WS6 wheels.




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Re: y 88s
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2010, 08:10:00 PM »
My Y88 is not a WS6 car, and has the 15x7 wheels as shown. I had the wheels painted the color you see, might not be "correct" but I love 'em! And yes, it truly is a Y88, PHS documented. This photo was taken before the decals/pinstriping was applied.
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