Hitman's Pontiac Trans Am Forum
Trans Am Photos => Trans Am Photos => Topic started by: Pacman on October 31, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
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Here some trans am's I know here in atlanta soem are good and bad.. let me know what you guys think of them. Im build the black and red one for a friend I showed pictures of it a few months ago. But let me know oh if you guys have any other pictures of trans am on 18 and up please show! thanks!
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a bit much for my taste
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20s on back 18s on front... when it gets lowered a little more itll look better in my opinion....
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Anyone hear of the bigger Rally II's out now?
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Yea I seen them on year one website I think.
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they were on a 2nd gen last year at sema.
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Here my wheels for my 73 T/A Boss 338 20's 10's in the rear and 8'5 in the front.
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What kind of turning radius do you have with those tucked under the car Pacman? Doesn't look like too much is left since you seem to be running the inner fenders. I like the idea of bigger rims but it looks too much like a matchbox for my specific tastes.
Owner of this car might want to do some detailing on the rear axle and springs...
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/tabrandon27/011-7.jpg)
Sticks out like a sore thumb with the rest of the car detailed so nicely. Just saying...
Same goes for this owner who might also want to think about upgrading the stock brakes...
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Well I dont know how black car and the orange car ride.. I seen the black car ride by one day but idk how his turning radius is. My friend got the black and red trans am at the top of page and his turns fine on 22. But yea I dont like to see someone put all that time on the outside of car and never do anything to under the car.. Both of them cars that black and that all orange one is nasty as hell under them. And the orange car still running drum breaks on the back...? like come on I got dish going all the way around my 73.. But hey as long as they like it I guess! its there car!
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In my opinion, those rims just don't look right on the second gen T/A's. A whole lot of ugly goin' on there. :P ??? :-[
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Ya, I'm not feel'n the 20"+ rims on the 2G's either. I'm not a hater on big rims, just don't like them on these TA's. IMHO, anything over 18's starts to take away from the sportiness of the 2G TA look.
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X3 18s biggest in my opinion, although I do like the looks odf the Black and Orange 1! Thefirst orange one has way too much space between the tire and wheel well for my liking. All about taste but its your Bird, do what you want just dont make it look like Beyonces Car! LOL
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There's a guy in town that has a caprice on 20 (something or others) and he can barely turn the wheel without rubbing. I pointed it out to my wife when we were following it one evening and she was in stitches as it simply couldn't turn. The reason I mention it is that the wheels on that caprice seem to match the size in the photos posted. That simply isn't safe as it can't manuever enough if it ever had too.
Just saying turning isn't over rated.
I'm with Old Skool....although I'd probably max it at 17's, I like a little more rubber showing. Again, my personal preference ;)
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Ya, I'm not feel'n the 20"+ rims on the 2G's either. I'm not a hater on big rims, just don't like them on these TA's. IMHO, anything over 18's starts to take away from the sportiness of the 2G TA look.
Hey man I would like to see more pictures of your car! cause we have to same wheels and I love the way your 76 looks!
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X3 18s biggest in my opinion, although I do like the looks odf the Black and Orange 1! Thefirst orange one has way too much space between the tire and wheel well for my liking. All about taste but its your Bird, do what you want just dont make it look like Beyonces Car! LOL
Yea I dont like that orange one to much myself.. But yea thats beyonces cousin's car! LOL
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I've never been a fan of the large rims. (anything over 17")
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Ya, I'm not feel'n the 20"+ rims on the 2G's either. I'm not a hater on big rims, just don't like them on these TA's. IMHO, anything over 18's starts to take away from the sportiness of the 2G TA look.
Hey man I would like to see more pictures of your car! cause we have to same wheels and I love the way your 76 looks!
ALWAYS willing to share 76 pix! ;D Here ya go!
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/1976%20Pontiac%20Trans%20Am/IMG_0910_25.jpg)
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Yea beautiful car man! You have 18's right? I got 20's for my 73 I just love the way the boss 338 look!
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Yea beautiful car man! You have 18's right? I got 20's for my 73 I just love the way the boss 338 look!
Thanks. Yup, there 18's.
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Does anyone else have boss 338?
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I have seen the Black and Orange car ripping it up on You tube.
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Ya, I'm not feel'n the 20"+ rims on the 2G's either. I'm not a hater on big rims, just don't like them on these TA's. IMHO, anything over 18's starts to take away from the sportiness of the 2G TA look.
Hey man I would like to see more pictures of your car! cause we have to same wheels and I love the way your 76 looks!
ALWAYS willing to share 76 pix! ;D Here ya go!
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/1976%20Pontiac%20Trans%20Am/IMG_0910_25.jpg)
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I only like factory rims, or turbines, but your car..... It looks amazing like that.
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Thanks! The gray goes well with the black/charcoal/red decals, which are technically incorrect, but I'm more about look since mine isn't a resto.
I'm curious to see what Pacman's is going to look like.
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Well Im building my 455 right now! So when thats done its on to paint.. then I will have some pictures up of what she looks like on them. Its going to be white with blue decals and light blue interior.
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20s on back 18s on front... when it gets lowered a little more itll look better in my opinion....
Hey, what paint code is that? It looks similar to the GM Apple Red that I'm considering for mine. I've also noticed a nice shade of red on the new VW Bugs and the new Jeep Liberty.
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One more vote for NO,,too much rim to look at,But people have a right to do whatever they want
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There's a guy in town that has a caprice on 20 (something or others) and he can barely turn the wheel without rubbing. I pointed it out to my wife when we were following it one evening and she was in stitches as it simply couldn't turn. The reason I mention it is that the wheels on that caprice seem to match the size in the photos posted. That simply isn't safe as it can't manuever enough if it ever had too.
Just saying turning isn't over rated.
I'm with Old Skool....although I'd probably max it at 17's, I like a little more rubber showing. Again, my personal preference ;)
Same ...more rubber the better the feel
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I dont know,,i would say anything above 17 inches on our cars looks to funny :-\
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I dont know,,i would say anything above 17 inches on our cars looks to funny :-\
I agree. And IMO, stock rims look the best on these cars anyways. They do make aftermarket larger snow flakes and RallyII now. The only car I like the look of from above is the orange 76 TA. Those rims do look cool on that car.
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I draw the line at 18" rims, and only so you can fit 13" rotors w/ six-piston calipers. Another reason 20" rims aren't that great is that they weigh more than 17's or 18's, and that's additional unsprung weight stock brakes have to deal with.
Geno
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i like the orange and black one
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I like different designs and like to look at many different setups. I think 18's look the best and will give some of the best results to compliment our cars and what they were built for. I mean they do carry the name of TRANS AM. My snowflakes took ok but slow the response of the vehicle down. I like the new ZR1 wheels on our cars too. One of the members here had similar ones on his TA that got painted a pretty cool gold color. Don't remember the thread though.
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Yea I would love to see that.
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Ya, I'm not feel'n the 20"+ rims on the 2G's either. I'm not a hater on big rims, just don't like them on these TA's. IMHO, anything over 18's starts to take away from the sportiness of the 2G TA look.
Hey man I would like to see more pictures of your car! cause we have to same wheels and I love the way your 76 looks!
ALWAYS willing to share 76 pix! ;D Here ya go!
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/1976%20Pontiac%20Trans%20Am/IMG_0910_25.jpg)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/1976%20Pontiac%20Trans%20Am/IMG_0905_25.jpg)
These are the MAX....anything bigger is just BIGGER not better. These fit the car, most of the others are cartoon like.
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Well I got the same wheels for my 73 T-A but 20's and there a little bit deeper. But yea I feel you Im just getting tired of the same old stuff.....
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Yup i got the 338's, in black though
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18x9.5 rear
18x8 front
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My man! 20x8.5 in the front and 20x10.5 in the rear.
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^Pics of 20s? I have 18s for handling and road touring and the original 15" Snows for the purists and local car shows! No pics on car bcuz its on rollers now.
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I dont got mine on the car cause Im getting mine ready for paint but here a picture of the rear.
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/tabrandon27/054-1.jpg)
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I'm liking the 18s as a max as I think your compromising the ride quality to much with these really tall wheels . I wish we had a thread on ride quality versus wheel size where members could all post how they feel about how the ride comfort and handling changed before and after they did changes
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I'm liking the 18s as a max as I think your compromising the ride quality to much with these really tall wheels . I wish we had a thread on ride quality versus wheel size where members could all post how they feel about how the ride comfort and handling changed before and after they did changes
Too many variables. You would have to get the same car and the same driver to test all the different combinations out. Everyone has their own style. All depends on if you drive slow everywhere or accelerate heavily from a stop and turn tight turns or even if you set your car up for the track but only drive it in town or on the highway. I do think 18's up front and 20's in the back are complete max size. 18's all around probably looks the best. I would have to see 20's in the back to see for sure. But then you can't rotate your tires. All depends on what you're into.
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Yup Im not trying to build a hotrod out of my T-A something to ride around in and have fun and look good. Im just tired of everybody doing the same thing with trans am black and gold and on snowflakes.. its 2012 lets do something new!
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I'm liking the 18s as a max as I think your compromising the ride quality to much with these really tall wheels . I wish we had a thread on ride quality versus wheel size where members could all post how they feel about how the ride comfort and handling changed before and after they did changes
Too many variables. You would have to get the same car and the same driver to test all the different combinations out. Everyone has their own style. All depends on if you drive slow everywhere or accelerate heavily from a stop and turn tight turns or even if you set your car up for the track but only drive it in town or on the highway. I do think 18's up front and 20's in the back are complete max size. 18's all around probably looks the best. I would have to see 20's in the back to see for sure. But then you can't rotate your tires. All depends on what you're into.
as long as you spec out the wheels correctly you can run bigger rims and have an almost identical ride quality... the only thing you will lose will be the sway you have on bigger sidewall tires.... my car with 20s on back and 18s on front rides great.... not harsh not soft... seems to ride just right...
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Seems they are not upgrading the brakes to accound for the bigger mass rolling down the road and getting it stopped. Not to mention it seems many of these "custom" places just throw crap on the car to make it look good without paying attention to the detail. I like different rims and such but these cars are just plain ugly.
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I like different designs and like to look at many different setups. I think 18's look the best and will give some of the best results to compliment our cars and what they were built for. I mean they do carry the name of TRANS AM. My snowflakes took ok but slow the response of the vehicle down. I like the new ZR1 wheels on our cars too. One of the members here had similar ones on his TA that got painted a pretty cool gold color. Don't remember the thread though.
What do those wheels look like?
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how about some black chrome splitters (to match wheels) on this bird?
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/1976%20Pontiac%20Trans%20Am/IMG_0910_25.jpg)
or on this one
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70 firebird on 19's in the front and 20's in the rear. Here the link for this project check this car out!
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?70621-1970-Firebird-Twin-Turbo-Build&highlight=trans+am
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Man that car is SICK. Damn they did a nice job. I like the rocker panel addition. Always thought they needed something there.
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Wow that is nice, I think I messed myself
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or this one.....
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is that the Ban3 without the brown/black interior?
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Where is the back window? That ones too low and the seats look like something out of a 1970's Dodge van.
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is that the Ban3 without the brown/black interior?
no its a custom build.... done here
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?78263-trans-am
and its an adjustable suspension on a full frame.... I wish I had that money
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thanks. That console sure is sick. Doesn't look so flimsy or cheap
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check this one... even though its not a t/a I have LOTS of ideas....
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?76909-Ringbrothers-1970-Camaro/page5
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The problem with alot of Pro-Tourers is they try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the bodywork- the Formula hood injected with the Hulk's DNA just doesn't do it for me- it seems overcooked and almost comical in appearance. The ground effects on that car look they got stripped off of a 90's ricer Acura sedan- they do nothing for the classic lines of a 70-73 firebird.
I will give props to the builder for the engine, wheels, suspension, and drivetrain- typical $200k Pro-tourer hardware.
Geno
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The problem with alot of Pro-Tourers is they try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the bodywork- the Formula hood injected with the Hulk's DNA just doesn't do it for me- it seems overcooked and almost comical in appearance. The ground effects on that car look they got stripped off of a 90's ricer Acura sedan- they do nothing for the classic lines of a 70-73 firebird.
I will give props to the builder for the engine, wheels, suspension, and drivetrain- typical $200k Pro-tourer hardware.
Geno
I agree, they also end up looking like new cars, which I find ironic. If you want it to look like a new car design, go buy a new car.
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The problem with alot of Pro-Tourers is they try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the bodywork- the Formula hood injected with the Hulk's DNA just doesn't do it for me- it seems overcooked and almost comical in appearance. The ground effects on that car look they got stripped off of a 90's ricer Acura sedan- they do nothing for the classic lines of a 70-73 firebird.
I will give props to the builder for the engine, wheels, suspension, and drivetrain- typical $200k Pro-tourer hardware.
Geno
I have to firmly disagree with you on the body work and look of the car. I see functional parts and being different. Sticking a built motor in someone else car design from 30+ years ago is just so typical and common and over done that it is comical. I appreciate both side of original and modified. Big line separating them but still similar enough to appreciate them.
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Where is the back window? That ones too low and the seats look like something out of a 1970's Dodge van.
Looks like the window is missing because he cant find the flush mounted window weather molding to work for it....
i went through the same thing (I have pics if needed) that angle on the lower rear glass is hard to work the molding around without it wanting to fold up or open........im guessing this because he put the flush mounted molding in the front windshield.....brings back bad memories for me...... :'( (it was like cash just blew out my hands)
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Wow Laval Canada, we used to have a plant in Laval
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Wow Laval Canada, we used to have a plant in Laval
Im new to laval 6years ,i was a montrealer before,,,what plant may i ask..........and i hope its not the smokable kind.... ;)
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Wow Laval Canada, we used to have a plant in Laval
HAHA no not THAT kind. It was a Reynolds Food Packaging plant. They made plastic containers. We got a few pieces of equipment from it when it closed. Sucked since all the directions were in French.
Im new to laval 6years ,i was a montrealer before,,,what plant may i ask..........and i hope its not the smokable kind.... ;)
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PLastics? injection molded or vacum formed,i was in the buisness for over 15 years,and an injection molder,and moved on to mold and die maker.
renolds sounds familiar...i think they were famous for the renolds wrap..
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Yes same company as Renolds Wrap. We did thermoforming, not injection molding.
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For me 18's are the top, should not go over.
With that said, there are a few cars that ive seen (20 in back, 18's on front) that are done correctly and professionally that make the cars look great. Now if you put 20+ on all 4's just because you think it looks cool with hardly any rubber showing then that is your preference but obviously you're ride will suffer, but who cares as long as you think you look good.
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how about some black chrome splitters (to match wheels) on this bird?
Does anyone have pics of the mentioned splitter?
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how about some black chrome splitters (to match wheels) on this bird?
Does anyone have pics of the mentioned splitter?
Correct me if im wrong but didnt hammer have these splitters on his car.
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the 76 S.e cars had black chromed splitters I believe. Bones may have a set...don't know for sure.
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Only a hand full of cars had them and neither Hammer or Bones have them IIRC.
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Yea this 1979 T-A something else lol Way to much right here! But the car is clean but the the iroc 24's are killing it...
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Only a hand full of cars had them and neither Hammer or Bones have them IIRC.
Correct Mongo - neither Hammer or Bones have the very rare black chrome splitters (boy I wish I did). I believe George Holt does. I've seen them on a couple cars at the NATS - they're awesome looking.
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I love that Mark Donohue AMX in the background
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Those rims are ugly but at least they saved a bird. Sadly though since this is probably not a TA lover that owns it, it will be driven into the ground then towed off to the junk yard.
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I got some pictures of my friends chevelle's I work on in the pass few years. The first is a 70 SS on 22in forgiato with a 502 ram jet very fun car to build. Next is 71 chevelle with 22in asanti I got a picture of it today nice cars. But I found some more trans am's on rims so let me know what you guys think of the T-A.
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I like that blue 78
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Cool pics Pacman. For my taste, if one is going to roll on 20+, they need to be tucked SoCal lowrider style. I still enjoy looking at those who choose otherwise though. 8)
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I can definitely tell they are GA style.....
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The guys w/ 22's and 24's on their cars usually have to drive real slow over driveway entrances and speed bumps because their wheels are rubbing on the fenderwells and suspension- FAIL.
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I dont know about that.... I build that 70 chevelle and we had 24's on it at first and they never rubbed and we could drive 70 down the highway great. Now yea if someone takes a car thats POS and puts wheels on it yea stuff going to rub I see that all the time down here.. But when you hotchkis under something it makes it ride so much better! :D
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To each his own- your car, you run what you want on it. The wagon wheel look just isn't my thing- I see it down here in socal all the time and for me it's played out.
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Ruined those Chevelles, those rims look stupid, may as well put a fast and furious wing on it as well, to each his own.
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eh you can reverse anything.... well almost thats an easy fix.....
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Update more pictures of T-A's!
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Those look nice! Not over done!
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Yea I wish I could find more pictures of that 72 at the top...
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Let me do some searching on my home computer tonight, I know I have a lot of pictures of that 72...Great looking TA with it's carbon fiber hood
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Nice pics Pacman. Like mine, these all sit a little too high for my taste. Hoping I can bring mine down another inch, but it likely won't happen for a while as my money needs to go toward other things on the car right now.
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Now those look nice. That first one would make an awesome revised TATA paint scheme, hmmmmmmm
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I apologize for them being Camaros, but they're 2G with 'em tucked. I dream of tucking the wheels on my T/A like this.
http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/Showfest/pages/306.htm or http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/GoodguysLonestar/pages/DSC_3541.htm
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Guess ya don't plan on driving it anywere? I never liked the tucked look myself
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What year eagle is on that 72 on top?
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Guess ya don't plan on driving it anywere? I never liked the tucked look myself
I'd drive it more than most. Most of us on here already have to strategically navigate surface streets & parking lots anyway with our cars, so it would make little difference for it to sit another 1~2" lower.
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I apologize for them being Camaros, but they're 2G with 'em tucked. I dream of tucking the wheels on my T/A like this.
http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/Showfest/pages/306.htm or http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/GoodguysLonestar/pages/DSC_3541.htm
the car in the first pic has got to be bagged, i like the second pic much better
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the car in the first pic has got to be bagged, i like the second pic much better
Yeah, most likely.
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I'm an aggressive driver- no way I could live with a ride height that low. I believe the Socal ricer kids call that "hella dumped"- looks cool on the fairgrounds but strictly for cruisers. Why anyone would want to copy a look most ricers and imports sport is beyond me.
Geno
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hella+dumped&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-7&form=QBIR
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I'm an aggressive driver- no way I could live with a ride height that low. I believe the Socal ricer kids call that "hella dumped"- looks cool on the fairgrounds but strictly for cruisers. Why anyone would want to copy a look most ricers and imports sport is beyond me.
Geno
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hella+dumped&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-7&form=QBIR
wow. Real nice guy Geno. Everyone has their own tastes, and (news flash), they'll not all be to your liking.
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I'm an aggressive driver- no way I could live with a ride height that low. I believe the Socal ricer kids call that "hella dumped"- looks cool on the fairgrounds but strictly for cruisers. Why anyone would want to copy a look most ricers and imports sport is beyond me.
Geno
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hella+dumped&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-7&form=QBIR
wow. Real nice guy Geno. Everyone has their own tastes, and (news flash), they'll not all be to your liking.
no need to start drama.... its just an opinion... thats all he was expressing....
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no need to start drama.... its just an opinion... thats all he was expressing....
Agreed
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Guess ya don't plan on driving it anywere? I never liked the tucked look myself
agreed some take it too far, but you cant argue the function of the "tucked" tires
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/32060191/1103phr_14_o+1978_pontiac_trans_am+optima_ultimate_street_car_invitational.jpg
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Solicit,
We all do whatever we like with our Firebirds and T/A's- nobody tells us how to set up our own ride and I can respect that. I don't tell anyone how to set their car up, but if I don't like it I'm not gonna blow sunshine up their a** either.
Geno
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(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/tabrandon27/185862_1292517608396_1693956723_529600_4751131_n.jpg)
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/tabrandon27/183299_1292603930554_1693956723_529650_7930403_n.jpg)
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Guess ya don't plan on driving it anywere? I never liked the tucked look myself
agreed some take it too far, but you cant argue the function of the "tucked" tires
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/32060191/1103phr_14_o+1978_pontiac_trans_am+optima_ultimate_street_car_invitational.jpg
Those don't looked tucked to me....not like the other pics where half the tires is hidden by the wheel well
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WOW Pacman Those red ones are SICK! I don't care what size they are makes me drool!
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WOW Pacman Those red ones are SICK! I don't care what size they are makes me drool!
x2! Very nice Pacman.
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Oh yea got to love them! 22x10.5 in the rear but the face of the wheel is push back to make it look deeper. Bonspeed custom made them for my friend one of one.
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Guess ya don't plan on driving it anywere? I never liked the tucked look myself
agreed some take it too far, but you cant argue the function of the "tucked" tires
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/32060191/1103phr_14_o+1978_pontiac_trans_am+optima_ultimate_street_car_invitational.jpg
Those don't looked tucked to me....not like the other pics where half the tires is hidden by the wheel well
your right thats a poor example...but i just liked the pic
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I apologize for them being Camaros, but they're 2G with 'em tucked. I dream of tucking the wheels on my T/A like this.
http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/Showfest/pages/306.htm or http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2011/GoodguysLonestar/pages/DSC_3541.htm
I really like both of those. My ta is on 15x7 snowflakes and I got my tires to tuck in a little.
The first one is bagged but really that is the way to go if you do a lot of the pro touring stuff. Slam it at the shows and raise it up when driving fast around turns.
I'm an aggressive driver- no way I could live with a ride height that low. I believe the Socal ricer kids call that "hella dumped"- looks cool on the fairgrounds but strictly for cruisers. Why anyone would want to copy a look most ricers and imports sport is beyond me.
Geno
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hella+dumped&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-7&form=QBIR
Geno with today's sway bars and coil spring set ups the guys that have tucked tires the right way can and will out handle any stock ta that rides around like a truck with the top of the tires being inches from fender arch. I can't stand to see a "sports" car like ours with the tires exposed like a truck. Just means there is a ton of body roll. Most of the cars in the pictures you selected such as the S2000,STI,BMW M3 and 350Z would smoke our older heavy cars around the turns. Just all depends on what you like.
I do know what you mean though about the guys who cruise around in the cars that are worth $500 with the tires tucked and front end jumping around over the little bumps and such. Just needs to be done the right way.
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They might handle good but it really is ugly, I don't want my TA to look like a 4x4 but I like to see the whole tire also. I like the look of the top of the wheel arch about a half inch or so from the top of the tire. When they are tucked way up inside it looks like an airplane retracting it's gear....
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hahaha..Yeah...getting ready for take-off
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hahaha..Yeah...getting ready for take-off
I hope if it is retracting it's gear it has already taken off =)
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Justin,
I've been into 2nd gen Birds and T/A's for close to 30 years now- I'm well aware of the latest aftermarket suspension upgrades available for our Firebirds and TA's. My 72 Bird was set up for road race over 20 years ago, well before all of this trick suspension gear became available. I'm looking forward to upgrading my set up to current standards, and seeing how much better the new stuff really is.
I know it's more esthetically pleasing to have a performance car that's lowered and yet has a suspension that is capable of full suspension travel- that does require an exhaust that is strategically tucked under the car. Many Pro-touring TA's and Firebirds have a lowered stance, wide 18" or larger wheels, and trick suspension setups which allow the suspension to articulate without the tires rubbing. But I doubt the "hella dumped" sports cars could even keep up w/ me on a twisty road- if they gotta slow down for driveway ramps and speed bumps, how are they gonna handle wavy, roads with dips and bumps at full speed?
Geno
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(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/er022/19598d12.jpg)
HELLA DUMPED YO!
no but in all seriousness. some people take it WAAAAAAY to far.... yes wind tunnels have proven the lower the car the more aerodynamic it is, making it faster.... but at the same time you lose ride quality with a stiffer suspension... and this "Hella Dumped" look seems to be mostly ricers... and for cosmetic appeal only...
as far as lowering cars, and suspension setups, Mary Pozzi has proven that the stock suspension setup on these cars can handle ALOT.... it was only til just recently she was running rear leaf springs, and whooping everyone with their 10k rear suspension builds... and probablly 95% of the people that build cars dont ever get the full potential of their car...
now as far as street driving... cars that are lowered considerably low, and were built for a racing purpose, most of the time they are only on closed course, maintained driving tracks.. so they dont have to worry about pot holes, speed bumps, etc... no different than an Indy car or nascar.... they sit low, but dont have problems on the track...
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Custom? That sound too expensive for Me?! :( I would probably do 18s maybe 19s on the rear and 18s in the front. A guy can dream right?
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Norwood's is one of my favorites on this forum that's lowered, and, no, the tires aren't tucked. There is a functional advantage to stiffening and lowering our cars. Compared to my other 2G Pontiacs, my current one has MUCH less body roll and feels firmly planted & stable. When I hop on it when turning, it kicks out nice & smooth.....just a more refined experience. ;D Yes, the ride is stiff and not for everyone, but it suits my tastes.....it's what I wanted this time around. Who knows? As I age and/or my tastes change, I might want a more comfortable ride.
eroc022, that pic is wrong.....freakin' hilarious, but wrong! lol! :D
72blackbird, your 'bird is on my list of dream cars to someday have parked in my stable. While we may not agree on what it should look like and/or perform, we do agree it's simply a wicked looking design.
Pacman, we're all starting to suffer from pic withdrawals! Really looking forward to seeing yours with the new rims.
Justin - I totally agree on the bags for show & go. There's a '69 Camaro that did most of the same local shows I did in 2011. His is P-T'd out, and is bagged. It is so sick! Would love to do the same to mine.
10Aniv - So what you're saying is, the below pic isn't your style??? Come on man! Seriously??? ;D
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Cars/4x4transam.jpg)
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^ That picture just kills me...
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Solicit,
I like the way your TA is set up- I plan to do a suspension/ chassis upgrade once my 455 is finished, and of course step up to 17 or 18" wheels, since speed-rated 15" street tires basically don't exist anymore. My suspension set up may be outdated, but it still handles well enough to surprise most new performance car owners.
Geno
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Justin,
I've been into 2nd gen Birds and T/A's for close to 30 years now- I'm well aware of the latest aftermarket suspension upgrades available for our Firebirds and TA's. My 72 Bird was set up for road race over 20 years ago, well before all of this trick suspension gear became available. I'm looking forward to upgrading my set up to current standards, and seeing how much better the new stuff really is.
I know it's more esthetically pleasing to have a performance car that's lowered and yet has a suspension that is capable of full suspension travel- that does require an exhaust that is strategically tucked under the car. Many Pro-touring TA's and Firebirds have a lowered stance, wide 18" or larger wheels, and trick suspension setups which allow the suspension to articulate without the tires rubbing. But I doubt the "hella dumped" sports cars could even keep up w/ me on a twisty road- if they gotta slow down for driveway ramps and speed bumps, how are they gonna handle wavy, roads with dips and bumps at full speed?
Geno
This^^^ I have been into Birds even before I could drive. I've had 2nd gens, 3rd gens and 4th gens, and let me tell you, my 4th gen wasnt "all that". I've been working on these cars for 20 years, and all that flashy garbage is just to look at, very little of it has any real functional purpose. I see so many nice Birds violated by people that bolt on whatever shiny thing is "in" right now....
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ahhhhh.....it's good to have dreams. Wow! This is the sickest T/A I have ever laid my eyes on. Earlier pics were in post #49 of this thread, but I just can't get enough of this beast.
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?78263-trans-am&p=869664#post869664
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Cars/DSC02355.jpg)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Cars/DSC02362.jpg)
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Yeah...not really diggin it...
Oh, I am also against putting an LSX Engine in EVERYTHING on the planet.
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ahhhhh.....it's good to have dreams. Wow! This is the sickest T/A I have ever laid my eyes on. Earlier pics were in post #49 of this thread, but I just can't get enough of this beast.
http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?78263-trans-am&p=869664#post869664
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Cars/DSC02355.jpg)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Cars/DSC02362.jpg)
Too low for me, cars that low look idiotic, just my opinion. I am sure that car is done right but 99.999999999% of people don't have the cash to do all that work.
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Norwood's is one of my favorites on this forum that's lowered, and, no, the tires aren't tucked. There is a functional advantage to stiffening and lowering our cars. Compared to my other 2G Pontiacs, my current one has MUCH less body roll and feels firmly planted & stable. When I hop on it when turning, it kicks out nice & smooth.....just a more refined experience. ;D Yes, the ride is stiff and not for everyone, but it suits my tastes.....it's what I wanted this time around. Who knows? As I age and/or my tastes change, I might want a more comfortable ride.
eroc022, that pic is wrong.....freakin' hilarious, but wrong! lol! :D
72blackbird, your 'bird is on my list of dream cars to someday have parked in my stable. While we may not agree on what it should look like and/or perform, we do agree it's simply a wicked looking design.
Pacman, we're all starting to suffer from pic withdrawals! Really looking forward to seeing yours with the new rims.
Justin - I totally agree on the bags for show & go. There's a '69 Camaro that did most of the same local shows I did in 2011. His is P-T'd out, and is bagged. It is so sick! Would love to do the same to mine.
10Aniv - So what you're saying is, the below pic isn't your style??? Come on man! Seriously??? ;D
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/jdjdtdmd/Trans%20Am/4x4transam.jpg)
I can't see the pics, I guess China doesn't want it's people looking at Pro touring TA's lol. I am in China for work
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Those rims are way too big for my taste, I am old school and don't care for anything over 18's on vintage cars. That being said the cars are really nice otherwise, that orange one is really cool!
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10Aniv I think the pic was moved or deleted I can't see it either. I use to be that guy that liked factory rims on these old school cars, and I still do. But I gotta admit some of the new type of rims are growing on me. SOLICIT for ex I love the rims that you and some others have, I am just not a fan of slamming these cars and putting "wagon wheels" or "pizza cutters" on them. I do think if done right a 1-2" drop does look pretty nice, just not smalled so low you will hit your fender in a pot hole. Just my opinion.
Josh
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No, I hosed up the link. Sorry about that. The pic should be visible now.
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Ok I can see it. That pic is why I personally believe some people should not be allowed to have children lol
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I put these on mine back in 1994. It was unheard of to have 17's. I had to wait months for Centerline to build them and paid a small fortune for them. The rims are for sale cheap if anyones interested. 17x8's and 17x9.5"(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Trevor02ta/INSPICS015.jpg)
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nice paint
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It's kind of ironic, but my upgrade to larger rims and lower profile rubber will most likely be 18" wheels. I can put together a package of Rev 100 18 x 9 rims and 265/40R18 General Exclaim UHP's for around $1100, but to run Year One Honeycombs and a split set of 255/45R17's and 285/40R17's would actually cost alot more- around $1600.
18" wheels on a dropped suspension looks nice, but to do it would take a tucked exhaust and adjustments to the suspension- too bad my budget can't handle that and an engine build at the same time. I guess I'll live with gap between my fender lips and tires when I do make the switch to 18's and low pros.
Geno