Hitman's Pontiac Trans Am Forum
Trans Am Photos => Restoration Projects => Topic started by: Gunner on September 15, 2010, 05:49:33 PM
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Told him to go ahead and dig in and start fixing the car. So the game begins. I'll have before pics here in a little while
FOR THOSE OF YOU ASKING ABOUT MY VINTAGE AIR SYSTEM.
It advertises that the kit is for Camaro's or T/A's. Well it's more for Camaros. Right now it's about halfway installed, and I'm waiting on defroster vents that tie from the unit to the dash. WELL, I guess our TA's don't get a lot of love, because the guy thats doing my car (who's also installing my AC) had to send the dash control unit in so it could be modified to fit the kit, and now they're custom molding the defroster vents for Trans Am's. As I understand it, I'm the FIRST person to order one of their kits for a 2nd Gen Trans Am. Also, as I understand it, our AC/Heat system is vacume controled, and Camaros are cable controlled. Now all the underhood components look good, as well as the under dash unit itself. It's just that nobody thought that Camaro's and TA's were THAT much different from each other, and everybody assumed that they'd fit identically. So I would assume that, after the teething problems that I've encountered, that anybody ELSE going the Vintage Air route on their cars won't have the teething problems I've had.
That was another reason why I told him to go ahead and start on the car. It's only halfway in, and at this stage of the game, with the weather starting to close in, he might as well pull it apart with the weather still SEMI good for sandblasting, welding etc, then just put the whole damn thing together once and get it right.
I'll keep you guys posted as this progesses.
Gunner
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sounds great.... i asked year one about what system they put on the BRE car and they said they started with a gen IV system and custom made alot of stuff for the vents and whatnot..... wonder why you cant just get a camaro defroster vent assembly and put it in place of the T/As ?
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Wow this whole A/C install sounds alot tougher than I thought it would
be . I did not know the camaros controls were that much differant.
Do you think a factory setup would have been a better route?
Can you not get some factory duct from a donor T/A instead of
these guys making custom ones.
Anyways I am happy to hear you are bringing her back
to her former glory . Looking forward to seeing the pics
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Where are the pics ?
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Where are the pics ?
X2 We want pictures, not a belly itcher!
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Wow this whole A/C install sounds alot tougher than I thought it would
be . I did not know the camaros controls were that much differant.
Do you think a factory setup would have been a better route?
Can you not get some factory duct from a donor T/A instead of
these guys making custom ones.
Anyways I am happy to hear you are bringing her back
to her former glory . Looking forward to seeing the pics
Here's the deal. It's a complete replacement unit. Under the hood, other than a comprressor, my car looks like an AC delete car. The one thing about a 2nd gen Camaro is that the heater controls are next to the drivers side door, as opposed to the center like in our cars. Now the system itself is controlled by microswitches, hence the cable controls. They took the faceplate off my car, removed the vacume controls and installed cable controls. It'll look just like a stock unit if you're looking in the window.
In my situation a factory install wouldn't have done me much good as I would have had to have replaced EVERYTHING anyway. And I figured that with the added extra cost of converting it over to the new coolant, it wouldn't have been worth the time or trouble. As I said before, they're fabbing the parts as we speak, so I don't think MY problems are going to be everybody ELSES problems.
The factory ducting won't work because it has to tie into the ac unit and the ends on the unit under the dash aren't anywhere NEAR to stock, where it connects to the AC unit. Remember, the WHOLE unit goes under the dash, rather than haveing that condenser under the hood. But, as I said, anybody ELSE won't have the same problems that I'm having as I'm the first to try to put one of these in a 2nd Gen TA (God I love being the guena pig ::) )
I don't have pics yet. I told him to pull the trigger two weeks before the agreed on date, so he's still got some projects that he has to square away before he can get started on mine in full effect.
Will update as I know more
Gunner
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keep us posted because I was also thinking of installing the same unit in my car for the same reasons!!!
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Update: Car starts coming apart next week for sandblasting. No pics as of yet. BUT, since I've been good, I get a Christmas present. Engine and tranny rebuild to go along with the rest of the rebuild. Also rewired, dash repaired, guages restored and recaliberated. Cometion date is guestimated to be around the Christmas-New Year time frame. Will post pics as they become available to me but I have to go out on a job next Wednsday but as soon as I get em they'll go up here
Gunner
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Got some pics yesterday and today, but I'm on my way out to a job I haven't been able to dump them from my phone to my computer as of yet. Will post them when I can. Floorpan was MUCH worse than I thought. No damn wonder I couldn't keep the mice out of it. Interestingly enough, though, was the places they did and DIDN'T find bondo. But where they did find it it was THICK. Will post pics when I can.
Gunner
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Oooooooooh,
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Ok I FINALLY got time to upload my pics that I got before I left for this job
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Interior1.jpg)
The above shot is more toward the back of the car. Not the HUGE gaping hole in the floor
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Interior2.jpg)
More toward the middle. Once again notice the daylight streaming in though the floor
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Interior3.jpg)
More toward the dash. Not QUITE as bad, but still pretty ugly
One of the reasons why I couldn't keep the rodents out of my car. The floor was in MUCH worse shape than I thought it was (or anybody else, for that matter). The back part is in pretty good shape, but the rest of it is ROTTEN. Suprised I didn't end up dragging my butt down the road.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Trunk1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Trunk2.jpg)
The above pics show the trunk. There are little pinholes of light coming in there, too. Looking into the trunk was when I first suspected that the integrety of the floors and trunk MIGHT be questionable
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These are shots of the outside. Not much done, but they'd just started that morning
Here's the one that got my attention. This is foreward of the passenger side door underneath where the fender flare was
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OMFG! They riveted HOUSE FLASHING underneath all that bondo then just slathered it on. I didn't think to get a pic, but they laid it in there 1/4 INCH THICK. The chunks that fell off were big enough to KILL PEOPLE if you hit them with it. I hope she ain't ALL like that or this is going to be a long drawn out process.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Debris1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202/Debris2.jpg)
Here are shots of the "PILE 'O DEBRIS" that they pulled out of her. Most of it will be reused, but some not. I think you guys can tell which is junk and which isn't ;D
I'll post more pics as they're sent to me. I'm out on a job right now so I can't get any pics or info first hand. I'll put them up as they become available.
Gunner
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Awe. The poor thing. I feel bad it's getting ripped apart. All just to be better right. Good luck on everything. Find anything else weird?
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Not so far, BUT I haven't talked to the guys doing my car in about 3 days, and haven't had any updates. I'll let everybody know when I find out some more.
Gunner
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Hey whos that Geezer on your car, tell him to stop standing about and get busy !!
Well i still think youre onto a winner mate, great !
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I can't believe they used house flashing, no bigger than that hole was they could have used screen wire with some old newspapers stuffed behind it ;) Its good to know that you are putting it back right and I'm sure it will look great when it's finished. Oh and I really have found holes patched like this it's amazing and shameful what people try to cover up with body filler the wrong way.
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Well I told the geezer to get to work thats why he ain't got any more pics ;D
Gunner
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Im glad, he looks like the sort of guy that when the boss aint looking , stands around and drinks coffee.......
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Hey I resemble that remark ;D
Gunner
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^^ Bless you . LOL
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Well you know how I get sometimes ;D
Gunner
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True, all touchy feely and emotional..... its ok , your amongst friends ( whatever ) LOL
So will this be at next years Nats?
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True, all touchy feely and emotional..... its ok , your amongst friends ( whatever ) LOL
So will this be at next years Nats?
Dunno yet. Too far down the road to tell. Been selling the Missus on the idea, but I MUST NOT - REPEAT - MUST NOT use any of my coming vacation time on this as I had to promise her ALL of it for her New Zealand trip and that is sacrosanct. I'll have to get a lot closer to the date and hope I can catch it between wells.
Gunner
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Pm me your bosses phone no, ill have a word.
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Pm me your bosses phone no, ill have a word.
Yeah I'll get right on it ;D
Gunner
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Dont worry, i have a way of talking to people in a universal language.
Youll get the time off alright.
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gunner holy chokey pokes, i have found liscence plates for fender bottoms before. I think this is just how body shops "used" to do things. back then cash caw was around easy come and easy go that car will be in the bone yard in a year or two anyways. I think that was their take on things back then.
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Well it's gonna be done RIGHT this time around. I told the guy before we even STARTED this shindig that there will be NO bondo on that car when it gets done. Period. End of story.
Gunner
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Looking forward to seeing your progress!!!
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Oddly enough, I am too. Been trying to hint to the missus for the past three days that it would be REALLY cool if she just happened to "drop by" and shoot some pics for me............But she is either COMPLETELY clueless (not) or she doesn't want to bother them while they're working (most likely).
Gunner
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NO bondo? at all.........
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As little as humanly possible. If there is a hole in that car that wasn't put there by Pontiac I want it filled with STEEL.
Gunner
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make sure you specify that, you may end up with something looking like an armoured car from WWII lol.
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Acutally I was VERY specific when I told him that, and I told him MORE than once. I made myself CRYSTAL clear on THAT point.
Gunner
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in the end your going to get some kind of filler. but the most important thing, they should be patching the metal correctly trying to align seams as much as possible and also mending the metal to where minimal filler is needed.
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Shows you what I know about body work. I just assumed you welded new metal in then ground it down so it matched what was removed............either by man or mother nature.
Gunner
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Ive found some one that can help with the mechanical side, he may even be able to make it go a bit quicker too !
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/thumb_hp004090.jpg)
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Ive found some one that can help with the mechanical side, he may even be able to make it go a bit quicker too !
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/thumb_hp004090.jpg)
THERE's the man that can tell me where the flux capacitor and the warp induction coils go! ;D
Gunner
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But you wouldnt want this GUY !
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/michaelknight-1.jpg)
Last daft one mate, i promise.
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Any updates Gunner?
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Any updates Gunner?
It's getting weirder by the minute. Will post when I can
Gunner
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Any updates Gunner?
It's getting weirder by the minute. Will post when I can
Gunner
please don't tell me your dealing with the same body shop as Cya!
Were going to have to get both of you Guys together and do a rebuild at the same time lol
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Any updates Gunner?
It's getting weirder by the minute. Will post when I can
Gunner
please don't tell me your dealing with the same body shop as Cya!
Were going to have to get both of you Guys together and do a rebuild at the same time lol
NONONO! Don't have any pics as of right now as the car is being sandblasted. Should be back next week.
Gunner
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oh man. I hope it is actually a 79 trans am and not a camaro shell.lol hope it goes well for you
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No I ran the VIN. It's a 79 TA that was built in Van Nuys.
Gunner
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wow
thats some of those optional ventilation holes you can get
Good luck Gunner and i hope it doesn't surprise the ol wallet too much either ;D
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wow
thats some of those optional ventilation holes you can get
Good luck Gunner and i hope it doesn't surprise the ol wallet too much either ;D
Well there's been a slight change in plan. As rotten as the body is on my car, we all (wife, me and body guy) confabed about it and decided that mine, while it wasn't too far gone to fix, it WAS going to be labor intensive and expensive to do so. He had a nice straight California body that he was going to cut up and use to put a T-Top roof on mine. The thing about it is it would be more cost effective to fix the body that HE has and use MINE for parts. So thats the plan. I've gone from fixing a 78 to a 79. There is the new project car
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Rigth now they're down sandblasting it and getting it ready to work on. Should have more pics by next Wednesday
Gunner
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I like the sticker on the rear bumper.lol. You should save it.
Are you sure you mind is made up now?
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Yup
Gunner
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looks clean!!!
must be excited!!
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looks clean!!!
must be excited!!
Well at first I was a little heartsick that my original car was to far gone to be fixed economically, and that I was ending up with a 79 instead of a 78. I just had to get my head in the right place, thats all. I'm going to end up with a MUCH better car, in the long run. I just hated seeing pics of my 78 sitting in the shop half stripped. It looked so sad, like it knew what was coming (It just became the parts car).
But a sharp 79 is a sharp 79. And this one has T-Tops (which my 78 didn't). And they aren't that much different that it's worth quibbleing about. And since most of the parts on the 78 will cross over to the 79, there is a LOT of stuff that I DON'T have to go chasing around the country looking for.
All in all, an equitable, and practical solution to the problem.
Gunner
Just FYI these are the guys that are doing the work on my car. They are going to post pics also so they can do a "Beginning to end" photo essay of whats happening
http://www.3gsuperrides.com/
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Hey that's great that we will get to see the restoration.
Glad to hear things are progressing . It wouldn't bother me at all to have a 79 , but I'm a nut and would change the front and rear clip . Although I have always liked the 79-81 front to, and really like the tail lights.
Some how some way I am going to own a 4 speed TATA
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My cousin has one. And yes, they're every bit as sharp and one would expect ;D
Gunner
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............. but I'm a nut and would change the front and rear clip . Although I have always liked the 79-81 front to, and really like the tail lights.
I thought about that, but thats not for me. Some guys do it, and it's looks REALLY good, but if I'm driving a 79 I want it to look like a 79. Now, and this shows my level of hyprocacy, I didn't bat an eye thinking about putting a 400 poncho in a car that came with a 403 olds in it, among other things. I don't know why I'm that way, I just am. I'm funny like that, I guess.
Gunner
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Yes you are, x LOL
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I thought about that, but thats not for me. Some guys do it, and it's looks REALLY good, but if I'm driving a 79 I want it to look like a 79. Now, and this shows my level of hyprocacy, I didn't bat an eye thinking about putting a 400 poncho in a car that came with a 403 olds in it, among other things. I don't know why I'm that way, I just am. I'm funny like that, I guess.
It's ok I'm the exact same way, except mine has a 455 but it's olds powered so I'm not super bad... just kinda bad ;D
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I thought about that, but thats not for me. Some guys do it, and it's looks REALLY good, but if I'm driving a 79 I want it to look like a 79. Now, and this shows my level of hyprocacy, I didn't bat an eye thinking about putting a 400 poncho in a car that came with a 403 olds in it, among other things. I don't know why I'm that way, I just am. I'm funny like that, I guess.
It's ok I'm the exact same way, except mine has a 455 but it's olds powered so I'm not super bad... just kinda bad ;D
Mine is probably going to end up with a stroker in it. 400 Poncho with a 455 crank in it.
Gunner
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no more updated pics on this? Sorry but I just keep checking in to see more.lol
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no more updated pics on this? Sorry but I just keep checking in to see more.lol
Negative, not yet. Car should be back from the sandblasters next Wednesday as I understand it. It's that time of year when people are mothballing their boats for the winter, and having all the accumulated crud blown off the hulls of their boats, or it would have been done faster.
Gunner
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ahhh blast!!! I guess I will have to be more patient.
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ahhh blast!!! I guess I will have to be more patient.
Yeah I know. It's eating me up, too. If I was there I could go stare over their shoulders so I could get them to REALLY screw up ;D
Gunner
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yeah. I know the feeling. Can the interior be dyed or anything like that?
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yeah. I know the feeling. Can the interior be dyed or anything like that?
Well we're going back in the new car with the same Camel Tan that came out of the white car so there really shouldn't be any problem with that. We already got 90% of the parts, in the right color, already. The only parts we're really going to have to dye is the trim around the T Tops And Doors which will have to be procured elsewhere and then dyed, but from what I've been told that really isn't too much of a problem.
Gunner
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ah. Well than I guess just patients now. Did they say about how long all this is going to take until you can drive her away?
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We've allotted a timeframe of Christmas/New Years, but it might be sooner.
Gunner
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oh wow. I thought for sure you were going to say march or april. that awesome. So your going to get a new trans am for christmas huh?
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Stem to stern, inside and out. Engine and tranny rebuilt too ;D
Gunner
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it will be like buying a new home..... Have a different outside appearance but have some familiar things inside.
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black paint ? a white gunfighter II would look better. the good guys dress in white with a gold badge of justice.
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black paint ? a white gunfighter II would look better. the good guys dress in white with a gold badge of justice.
Black? On NO NO NO. We already discussed this in PM's this morning. If I can't see her from the space shuttle she ain't white enough ;D
Gunner
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just checking..
mine is as white as white gets. a cameo car looks almost gray sitting beside mine.
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I was thinking dark blue or dark green myself. I might still shift color, but as of now, it's still white.
Gunner
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CHANGE !!! while you can man !
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CHANGE !!! while you can man !
Well we tried change two years ago and look what it got us ;D
Gunner
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I love white paint with the gold accents like the wheels and bird . I can't remember his name ,but there is a bodyman here who has the white that I like .
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I love white paint with the gold accents like the wheels and bird . I can't remember his name ,but there is a bodyman here who has the white that I like .
Think that would be 4Speed. He's got a pic of his car in his sig about 3 posts up. Ok I hadn't anticipated starting a new page. About 3 posts above your last there, RainMan ;D
Gunner
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No not 4 speed .The T/A has a blue hood bird ,and the paint looks extremely white (if there is such a thing lol]
Also he is a bodyman by trade
Iv'e got the screen name tin indian in my head ?
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White with a Blue chicken does look good i agree,
Gunner you need to tie in a colour with the Tan interior mate, blue works well.
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SoonerTA has a white and blue t/a
http://www.78ta.com/smf/index.php?topic=26478.0
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Going white with gold bird and lettering, with SE penstriping. That ought to work with a tan interior, don't ya think guys?
Gunner
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Nope BLUE !! its the only way.......................... lol, Blue and Tan SWEEEEET ..........
but then im biased.......
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/birdcallyandmore018.jpg)
I have an eye for things Blue.... lol
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Going white with gold bird and lettering, with SE penstriping. That ought to work with a tan interior, don't ya think guys?
Gunner
It's Been Done!! ;)
(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/19763-1/trans+am+pics1+010.JPG)
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It's Been Done!! ;)
(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/19763-1/trans+am+pics1+010.JPG)
Thats what I keep trying to tell the missus! That's why I'm thinking on going with either a dark blue or dark green with the SE piping
Gunner
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is there a red and black penstripe out there? Like maybe the thin stripe is red and wider stripe is black?
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You could probably order it from Phoenix Graphics
Gunner
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they do offer custom kits, that would be cool.
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So no blue ? :'(
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So no blue ? :'(
Still fighting that fight, but right now the missus has made up MY mind as to how she wants ME to paint up MY car. Basicly she still wants me to clone 4Speed's car. I sent her the pic of his car and told her that it's already been done. All she said was "EXCELLENT! I LOVE IT". :(
Gunner
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Do you wear the trousers in that household Man !!
LOL whatever way you go im sure IT WILL look great !
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hummmmmm , My wife picked white to. I must not wear um eather.
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hummmmmm , My wife picked white to. I must not wear um eather.
Doug.. I found your pictures in the gallery. After seeing your car Katee is in love with the white you used and the color combination between the white car and gold decals. Theres just something about your car the lady's love I guess.
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LOL well at least your honest !
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you guys ::)
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Well my battle as to who actually owns MY car is still raging..................Outcome uncertain ;D
Gunner
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Well my battle as to who actually owns MY car is still raging..................Outcome uncertain ;D
Gunner
She does !!!!!
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Yep you already lost, finish this one up and start looking for you another one. lol
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Thanks for the support guys ::)
Gunner
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Were just telling you what you already know deep down inside. lol
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You're welcome Gunner be sure to keep us updated on your wife's car :D
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Gunner it may be easier to just sell you my Marty?
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just trying to help hold your pants up.
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If I don't have anything IN them why hold them up ;D
Gunner
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Gunner it may be easier to just sell you my Marty?
Don't you DARE threaten me like that or I might just take you up on it ;D Honestly I was cruiseing ebay the other day and saw one JUST like yours for 15K. SERIOUSLY thought about going and looking at it, but decided against it.
Gunner
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aw crap our dollar is at parity right now (http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/images/laugh.gif)
Pm sent
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Rain delay
My car is still at the sandblaster. Due to the fact that it's going to rain all week back home, and also that my body shop guy doesn't have an enclosed trailer, pictures coming soon are iffy at best. She's stripped, so if we put her out in the raid, insta-rust, and thats never good. As soon as I get more I'll upload and post for you guys.
Gunner
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It's Wednesday. Any pics or updates?
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It's Wednesday. Any pics or updates?
Not yet. Might be a rain delay due to the fact my body guy doesn't have an enclosed trailer, and the car has been sandblasted. Still waiting on further word.
Gunner
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Update. The missus is going by with pizza today or tomorrow for the guys, so I should be getting some pics here shortly.
Gunner
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Pizza ? Blimey shes spoiling them !! No one brings me Pizza.......... :'( :'(
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Me neither...gotta go get it myself
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You don't know my missus. The only person she makes it a point of not spoiling is ME ;D
Pics should be coming tomorrow. She wanted to go next week, but I casually pointed out to her I would like to see it BEFORE they shoot primer all over it so I can see if there's any dodgy body work, bondo, or other bozo no-no's under all that stuff from the previous owner that I need to know about. So I should have some shots tomorrow.
Gunner
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right...patiently waiting ;)
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Hmm pizza that's a good idea throw a pizza in the door lock them in the building tell them they can't come out till you see results you like. revolutionary idea if the cops come to let them out give them doughnuts (JK) law enforcement personel that will get them on your side lol. All kidding aside I know you are anxious to see results and so are we, but I found that body shop time line was different than mine :( good luck!
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Hmm pizza that's a good idea throw a pizza in the door lock them in the building tell them they can't come out till you see results you like. revolutionary idea if the cops come to let them out give them doughnuts (JK) law enforcement personel that will get them on your side lol. All kidding aside I know you are anxious to see results and so are we, but I found that body shop time line was different than mine :( good luck!
Not really trying to rush anybody here, but right now I'm on a job in Oklahoma and they're working on my car in Missouri, so I can't just drop by and go see what the current status is. Sort of like sitting in a closet waiting for people to tell me whats going on in the outside world. And what THEY think is important, and what YOU think is important could be two very different things. My wife doesn't know the first thing about cars (she's getting an advanced course, thats for sure), but she doesn't know whats important and whats not. For instance, she wanted to go by next week after it was shot with primer. She didn't understand that I wanted to see what was UNDER all that nasty old paint, before we had any issues that I should have known about in the first place. It's a learning experience for her as well as me, I'm just a little further up the curve than she is.
Depending on the weather back home I may or may not have pics today
Gunner
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Good luck mate. ;-)
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More delays. They haven't got the car back from the sandblaster yet (should be later this afternoon) so I'm still waiting on pictures.
UPDATE. The car was on a trailer en route back from the sandblasters when the missus went by so no pics till next week.
UPDATE 2. TRYING to get the missus to go over there and get pics, but she doesn't want to do it till Wednsday. I can't seem to get through her head that I need to get pics of it BEFORE the primer is put on to see if there's any damage underneat all that paint. She sends me pics back of that car in primer and I'm gonna be one PISSED OFF oilfield hand >:(
Gunner
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OK NEW PICS
MY FRONT END SHOWED UP TODAY! YAY! Many MANY thanks to Renovations who hooked me up with a front end thats in VERY VERY GOOD shape!
Here are the pics
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Nose15-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Nose1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Nose14.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Nose13.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Nose12.jpg)
Car will be back from the sandblaster tonight or tomorrow. SHOULD have pics........SHOULD being the operative word.........tomorrow or the next day.
Gunner
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Rennovations is one of the good guys !!
Nice mate.
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I can provide PIZZA!!
Nice pieces you got there, Gunner!
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Someone mention PIZZA ?
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Yeah as slow as these pics are coming y'all might want to bring something to nosh on ;D
Gunner
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NEW PICS
Just got back from the sandblaster and my body guy took some shots of the car
Here they are
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast21.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast20.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast18.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast17.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast16.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast15.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast14.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast13.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast12.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast11.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast10.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast9.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast8.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast7.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast6.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast5.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast3.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/Sandblast2.jpg)
More to follow
Gunner
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Looks good from here are you happy with it so far?
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So far I am, but then again I haven't laid eyes on it personally yet.
Gunner
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From what i can see youve got a result there !!
A few perferations, but on the whole a very solid car , well done mate.
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Well I beleive I got more pics coming, but yeah she looks pretty solid so far.
Gunner
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There's some fine looking metal on that car.
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Well from what I've seen she's looking good, but then again, all I've seen is EXACTLY what YOU GUYS have seen. But the good news is that this well has gone from drilling at the speed of smell to digging like a badger, so at the rate we're going we SHOULD be done in a few days, barring anything weird(er) from happening.
Gunner
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looking good
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Looks great
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Thought I had some more pics coming, but checking my email I guess I don't. This job should be over in a day or so so the next shots should be of the car in primer, and hopefully I'll be the one shooting them ;D
Gunner
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Ok got some fresh pics of the car. Here they are
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New13-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New12-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New18-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New17.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New19.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New9.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New10.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New8.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New4-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New3-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/New4.jpg)
As much as I hate to admit it, going with this body and building a 79 is going to, in the end, make me a better can than trying to fix the 78. I am poaching parts off the 78 as 92% of them are interchangeable, so thats a big help too.
But I can already see that fixing my 78, while it breaks my heart, wasn't a practical option
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Making progres...the hard part is etting it back together!!!!!
I wait with anticipation
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Should be getting off this job here in about 2-3 days, so then I can go shoot some pics in person. I was more worried about what was under the paint than anything else. My poor 78 was about half rotten, and I was a little nervous that I'd be trading one set of troubles for another.
Gunner
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That's what old car life is like around here!!
Everyone here patches over the problems, throws some paint on it and calls it rare or custom
case in point, my RIP TA, but I blame myself for that blunder!!
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Well when I bought my 78 from the guy he told me "There's a little bondo in it". Ok fine. The car is 30 years old.
He didn't tell me to take the bumps easy or the damn thing might shatter, either.
Gunner
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I went back and refreshed my memory looking at the earlier photos with the Geezer ;) and just looking at the photos you look to be miles ahead with this body, when you start smelling fresh paint and the car going back together I don't think it will bother you too much maybe. Things are looking good and thanks for the photos.
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I'lll have more here in a few days. Hopefully it will be in primer when I get home, but we'll see
Gunner
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Its a nice body youve got there mate.
Shame about the 78, but not all of us have the time, skill or money to restore.
I bet you cant wait to see it.
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Looking good Gunner . Are you doing any of the reassembly yourself or is the bodyshop going to hand you over a new T/A when it's all said and done.
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At this stage in the game this may be a good time to install that 4 speed auto ?
Or are you a little over budget already?
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Looking good Gunner . Are you doing any of the reassembly yourself or is the bodyshop going to hand you over a new T/A when it's all said and done.
I'll be brutally honest with you guys. I don't have the time or the skill necessary to do the body work myself. I've been on this job for 38 days now(and we're still 3 days to a week from finishing), and the last one I was out on was 48. I generally get between 10 to 15 days as home between jobs, but I've been sent out with as little as one hour at the house. I don't really have a set work schedule, so a project like this, for me, is just undoable. Couple that with the fact that I have no bodyworking skills whatsoever, and you can see my dilemma.
I'll probably help rebuild the engine thats going in it (I want to save this one just in case anything bad happens during machine work. I know this one runs), as I'm familiar with engines and rebuilds, but unfortunately, my participation is mostly hands off, bossman finger type stuff. Given the time, yes I'd LOVE to help, but the missus would be a little pissed off if I spent all my downtime working on a car, rather than working on her projects ;D
So I kinda got my hands tied by work. I'd love to do it myself, but I don't want to take a beautiful car and turning it into a wreck.
Gunner
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At this stage in the game this may be a good time to install that 4 speed auto ?
Or are you a little over budget already?
Well with all I got going out on getting everything else redone, I'm just going to either get my TH350 rebuild, or look for a TH400 to go in there. The OD tranny will have to wait till next year.
Gunner
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Its a nice body youve got there mate.
Shame about the 78, but not all of us have the time, skill or money to restore.
I bet you cant wait to see it.
Damn curious would be an understatement at this point, my freind. I have never acutally laid eyes on the 79 body we're rebuilding ;D
Gunner
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Im sure it will be worth the wait.
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Getting itchy to get off of here and go see whats going on in the REAL world. Haven't even got to watch the TV news in 38 days. I'd be stark raving mad if it wasn't for the net out here ;D
Gunner
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looks really workable and a whooooooole lot less work to be done in the end, I think you will be much happier with this body. Shame the 78 wasnt just as clean though
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As I said, the guy I bought it from said it had a little bondo in it. Well what do you expect from a 30 year old car? Ok I thought..........But like I said, he didn't tell me the thing might shatter if I hit a bump too hard, either. Oh well, I guess I just took a different tack, thats all. I bought the parts car FIRST, THEN I found one to fix.
I never was one for doing things the easy way. Why start now ;D
Gunner
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Im sorry
Ive been far too sensible for too long.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/selling/1ef0.jpg)
Thats better.
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Im sorry
Ive been far too sensible for too long.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/selling/1ef0.jpg)
Thats better.
YUMMY! NOTHING like a big refreshing glass of FROGS EGGS ;D
Gunner
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Back to the thread..............
so what colour is it going white again?
i think i snuck that in quite well then,
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Back to the thread..............
so what colour is it going white again?
i think i snuck that in quite well then,
So far we're still white, but I haven't been home yet to discuss other options with the missus yet. This will be 40 days on this job, and it's just about over. They start wearing you down after 30.
Gunner
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Update: Went and got a look at the car yesterday. Things are looking GOOD. Really impressed with what I've seen so far. Will have more pictures either this afternoon or tomorrow.
Gunner
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Good news.
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I'm glad the 79 is working out good.
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any updates on it yet?
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any updates on it yet?
Well it should be in primer next week. They've been pullling some minor dents and getting ready for primer, so while there's a lot going, you can't SEE much going on. I'll get some pics tomorrow or the next day. We ARE making progress though. I'll so you guys some when I can ;D
Gunner
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Hows it coming?
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wow
thats some of those optional ventilation holes you can get
Good luck Gunner and i hope it doesn't surprise the ol wallet too much either ;D
Well there's been a slight change in plan. As rotten as the body is on my car, we all (wife, me and body guy) confabed about it and decided that mine, while it wasn't too far gone to fix, it WAS going to be labor intensive and expensive to do so. He had a nice straight California body that he was going to cut up and use to put a T-Top roof on mine. The thing about it is it would be more cost effective to fix the body that HE has and use MINE for parts. So thats the plan. I've gone from fixing a 78 to a 79. There is the new project car
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/IMG_0296-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/IMG_0296.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/IMG_0295.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/IMG_0294.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/IMG_0293.jpg)
Rigth now they're down sandblasting it and getting it ready to work on. Should have more pics by next Wednesday
Gunner
I like those whelels
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Well it's coming along nicely, but, unfortunately, my computer is shopped (trying once again to get the cooling fans replaced). Not in primer yet but moving forward. I like the wheels on the 79 too, but there are only 3 of them. The fourth is just a steel rim. Luckily I have a brand new set of YearOne snowflakes waiting in the wings
Gunner
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Ok here are some new pics of the car. Progress is coming slowly but surely
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/CurrentPic2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/CurrentPic1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Repairs%20Phase%202A/CurrentPic3.jpg)
Progress is being made, slowly but surely, but it is being made..........
Will update when I get more pics
Gunner
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Nice to see some progress. Keep up the good work.
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I'm sure whatever color you choose it's going to look exceptional Gunner.
I really like white and if you look at Tin Indians T/ A it is the white I like . It would
be interesting to know which white paint he used exactly
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I'm sure whatever color you choose it's going to look exceptional Gunner.
I really like white and if you look at Tin Indians T/ A it is the white I like . It would
be interesting to know which white paint he used exactly
Honestly, I'm not real sure myself as of this moment. Will find out tomorrow for you ;D
Gunner
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any progress is a good thing.. its when it takes a few steps back that hurts..looking really good
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Going to go check on her tomorrow. Will see if anymore progress has been made, and if so I'll post more pics.
Gunner
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You kow how we love pics ! :-* :-* :-* :-* lol
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I like them myself, but I'd bet there isn't much to photograph today. At the rate they're going right now there is no way this will be done by the Christmas/New Years time frame. Progress is being made, but I think I need to pack a lunch ;D
Gunner
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Got some more pics, but progress has been slower than I'd like. Will probably be home tomorrow and get an update then.
Gunner
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I like them myself, but I'd bet there isn't much to photograph today. At the rate they're going right now there is no way this will be done by the Christmas/New Years time frame. Progress is being made, but I think I need to pack a lunch ;D
Gunner
I thought you were a little optimistic considering how much work had to be done . As long as your driving it this spring is the main thing
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I figured they were too, but I left it with them at the beginning of September...........But it is what it is ;D
Gunner
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Looking good so far!!! I am jealous!
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any word on the vintage air kit ?
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Not so far. If I don't see any progress here in a QUICK hurry I'm going to go over there and get VERY upset.
Gunner
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Go get em !
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how is the car looking these days?
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how is the car looking these days?
Just about the same as it did. That's why I'm about to get pissed.
Gunner
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Went and had a "come to Jesus" meeting. I think things are back on track now.
Pics to follow when I get them
Gunner
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did ya show him the back of your hand? lol JK , nothing good comes from that.
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No but I made it real plain that the lack of progress over the past month. I was prepared to get ugly, but it wasn't necessary. It's a fine line though. Get to nasty and it's like yelling at the kid working at McDonalds. You never know exactly WHAT'S in the secret sauce on a Big Mac after you yell at him.
It was civil, and we got it organized..........
Gunner
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^^^^^ Great quote about Maccy Dees !
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hopefully it will make good progress this month then.
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Not to upset anyone in the autobody industry ,but my friend was a body man his entire life and owned a shop . According to Chriss there isn't alot of money in paint . It's labor intense and shops don't make alot of money cause the employies doing the labor make most of the cash when it's all said and done . The money is in the vehicles that come in that have been in a collision .
So I could see where your project may be put aside while they try and make ends meat as the meal tickets come in .
Just thought I would give you a heads up as to why it's taking longer as you were told . I realise they shouldn't give you a date and then prolong it ,but I suspect that this is what may be happening ?
Knowing how the industry works ,when I first seen your thread I was certain the time table given was not going to happen and that you were overly optimistic
The good news is it's still winter and you will have that beauty on the road this spring
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It is true, theres more money in Insurance work.
Gunner if all else fails............. and you can find me.......... maybe you can hire ....................
THE SPRAY TEAM ................... der der der, da ner nerrrr .................
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/spray.jpg)
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It is true, theres more money in Insurance work.
Gunner if all else fails............. and you can find me.......... maybe you can hire ....................
THE SPRAY TEAM ................... der der der, da ner nerrrr .................
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/thebigv8/spray.jpg)
English
I worry for you man........I REALLY do..............
A flame job doesn't include REAL flame ;D
Only net I got on this job is my phone so I will post more when I get home
Gunner
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insurance work is definately a higher rate than any but...never should anyone put that aside from who was first in line.
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^^^^ LOL , just thinking of you fine Sir.
I could always go back to posting pics of Hoff........
Gunner, dont worry, its all good.
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Ok........well it's long and convoluted, but after two months of watching this thing be a paperweight, and, due to the fact that I couldn't go down and get a hunk of everybodies butt (since I was out on a job) the wife did it for me. And they knew that if SHE was pissed they didn't want anything to do with me. This was last Friday. This pics showed up on my phone on Tuesday.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0483.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0482.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0472.jpg)
Well they knew I was on the way home that next day. So I get home, get some sleep, and the next day I go down and I find THIS
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0484.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0492.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0488.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Phase%203/IMG_0484.jpg)
She's beginning to resemble a car again, kids. They're also working on the front end. Progress is coming along smartly after a LONG haitus.
Gunner
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thats looking really clean hope they get it done for you asap.
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The body mans motto "We will drag unless you nag!" Looks good dude! Keep on em!
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shes looking good. looks like they used a spray on filler . good stuff.
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Congrats on getting them started again. Glad you are finally getting the results you are looking for. She's looking really good.
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Looks great Gunner keep up the good work.
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Looking solid Gunner. Will be worth the wait.
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Looks to be coming along nicely
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Glad to see some progress Gunner . She's sure going to be a solid car when she's done by the looks of things so far .
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More progress but no pics
Just went down to the machine shop and dropped about 2300 on the machine work and parts for the engine rebuild. Shop is a small local one, but it's VERY clean (inspected it myself) and very squared away.
The rebuild itself has been dialed down though. Since I've gone to work for my old company, they've been having trouble putting me on a follow me job, and I've been playing "catch as catch can" catching loose jobs of varying length (and therefore, while my cashflow is GOOD, it's VARIABLE). So the rebuild is going something like this
L78 Block out of my 78 (unfortunately)
Smog Heads on L78 Block (unfortunately)
Custom ground roller cam (don't know the specs yet)
Roller rockers
recondition my rods and use ARP studs throughout
recondition my crank
Engine power output is estimated to be in the 375 horse range (dissapointing but acceptable), and is going to be backed up with a rebuilt and beefed up Turbo 400 tranny.
More news to follow
Gunner
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Engine power output is estimated to be in the 375 horse range (dissapointing but acceptable),Gunner
Gunner that is about all the HP that I want to tell you truth . I mean it is over double the factory 180 .You would think you should feel the differance in the cars attitude with those extra ponies as long as you didn't loose any low end torque in the mean time
What rear dif ratio are you running again?
With my 2.56 rear ratio I am more concerned with low end torque ,so no matter what it takes I am going to do a stroker
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Well unfortunately I have my choice of high and higher. The 78 has 2:56 rear gears in it (I know that for sure because I have the build sheet for the car) and we THINK that the 79 has 2:73's in it. Don't know which one I'm going with yet, BUT I know that the one on the 78 has fresh lube in it, and it's had a brake job (cause I had them do it before we started building).
Dunno which way I'm going to go with that yet, but probably going to transplant the 2:56 over, as I don't really know what kind of shape the one on the 79 is in.
Gunner
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Nice to see things moving along mate.
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Well Gunner at least you have both carriers and can change the 2.73 to a 3.42 if you felt inclined . In my case I will end up having to spend a ton as I want an eaton carrier if I ever go with a 3.42 .
I can't wait to see how your T/A performs with the new engine moddes , as it will be a good comparison for me if you go with the same gear I am running , the 2.56
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Well Gunner at least you have both carriers and can change the 2.73 to a 3.42 if you felt inclined . In my case I will end up having to spend a ton as I want an eaton carrier if I ever go with a 3.42 .
I can't wait to see how your T/A performs with the new engine moddes , as it will be a good comparison for me if you go with the same gear I am running , the 2.56
Didn't think you could put a 3 series gearset in a 2 series rear end. Might be worth my time to check out the other one.
Gunner
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Got an update but no pics. Progress contiues on the body, and the engine and tranny will be pulled next week and sent to the shop for rebuild.
Gunner
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Nice to see things moving along mate.
Damn shame the missus had to go down and rip a strip off everybody. The thing is that they knew that if SHE was pissed and did that, God himself only knows what I'd do if I showed up and no progress had been made. I was prepared to pull the cars out of there and trade them both on a RUNNING 78 that I had spotted down by Ardmore Oklahoma. I wasn't even going to get pissed. Just cut my losses and go.
But progress is being made, so that wasn't necessary...............yet.
Gunner
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Glad to hear it. Stay on them. It is a shame to have to do that when paying for a service.
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Ok I thought the series 2 carrier had the 2.56 and 2.41 ,and the series 3 came with a 2.73 and steeper ?
Guess I'm wrong
I have to say though I am amazed at how nice the Marty is with the 2.56 in town . Great cruising in town ,just no wheel spin off the line . I could break loose from a dead stop if I was turning with the factory tires ,but these freaking 60 series BFG's stick like glue .
It would be interesting to see what the street manners would be like with the tall gearing I have now if I had a stroker at around 400 hp ?
A 3.42 and a modded 200R4 may be the answer in the end .Hope it doesn't come to that though
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From what I've READ the 2.73 is the starting rear end for the 3 series carriers, I THINK. Can anybody elaborate on this? If so I'll be keeping both rear ends.
From what I've been told, mine is going to end up in the 375hp range when they get done with it, and I'll have a TH400 behind it, with the 2.56 rear gears. That will have to do for now, as the budget is already allocated. Perhaps in a year or two I'll be able to build the engine/tranny/rear end combo I really WANT for her, but this will do for a start. All in all though, for the money I've put into this project, as far as power goes, I'm prepared to be underwhelmed.
I'm hoping for 375 PLUS hp, but with the smog heads and stock intake I'm not really holding my breath. I'll probably end up in the 350 range. Thats better than the 175 she was putting out, but still dissapointing because of all the money I'm going to be putting in to her, and still end up lacking what I want.
Oh well, thems the breaks
Gunner
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375hp will brake the tires in 2nd. it will push ya into the seat. you'll like it. mine is 382hp @ 4500rpm . I dont know what that is to the ground, but I like it.
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my 77 was 392 on a dyno. dont know the transfer when in the car but it was more than enough to feel the body twist. It was plenty fast. you will be very happy with what you will have trust me.
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Thats about the range I was looking for myself, about 1HP per cubic inch. The thing is I HAD the money in the bank, but over Christmas work slowed down a little and I had to dip into the budget to pay some bills...............which took my rebuild down. As I said, it's just kinda disapointing to have to throw that kind of money at what you want and STILL have to compromise on what you end up with.
As I said, them's the breaks
Gunner
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Gunner, all said and done it will still be a Gorgeous car.
First drive will wash those cares away.......
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Actually I kinda like that 1 hp per cubic inch idea . Going to
be tough to hit that exactly though , but you got me thinking .
Gunner are you going to have those sub frame connectors installed .
Makes me a little nervouse with t roofs and all . Especially with all the torque your going to have
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nice project!!!, can't wait to see it when it's done...
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gunner, I was promised 550hp or more at $4500 so 392 was a let down BUT when i took off in the car, HOLY CRAP more than plenty.
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Looking very nice! I can't wait to see it finished.
Say, where does the Vintage Air system get the fresh air? Looks to me like both holes in the firewall are going to be blocked off and the hoses for refrigerant and coolant routed through the delete plates. Or is it just recirculating?
Jesper
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Actually I kinda like that 1 hp per cubic inch idea . Going to
be tough to hit that exactly though , but you got me thinking .
Gunner are you going to have those sub frame connectors installed .
Makes me a little nervouse with t roofs and all . Especially with all the torque your going to have
OH yeah. It WILL have subframe connectors. That was already dialed into the price of the work from the get go.
Gunner
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Looking very nice! I can't wait to see it finished.
Say, where does the Vintage Air system get the fresh air? Looks to me like both holes in the firewall are going to be blocked off and the hoses for refrigerant and coolant routed through the delete plates. Or is it just recirculating?
Jesper
BELEIVE it just recircs, but not sure. There will be a plate where the old condenser under the hood went through the firewall. Not sure though, will have to check on that.
Gunner
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Staus update: No progress due to last weeks blizzard. Understandable. If I don't want to get out in it, I don't really expect anybody else to want to either.
Gunner
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Hey gunner,
Just got caught up on your build. Lookin good and glad you found some steel in the '79. '78 was rough no doubt. Will be looking for more pics and progress. Keep on em man.
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Looking good...I'm jealous...been too cold to work on mine!!!!
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Right now I'm out on the rig and THEY'RE working on it ;D, but as I said, I due to the blizzard work has shut down. Now I don't know whats going on at home, but I know where I am (one mile south of Kansas, and 30 miles west of I-30) we got a foot of snow..........so I reckon it's pretty nasty at home too..............probably got a weather delay again, but not for sure on that one.
Gunner
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NEWS UPDATE: Lots to reports here. No pics as of yet (due to the fact that Photobucket is blocked out here). Engine and tranny has been pulled. The rebuild has started on them as we speak. LOTS..........and I mean LOTS of parts ordered thanks to the SajMaj (Meaning my missus ;D ). Shipped off the dash to be restored as well as the guages to be refinished and recaliberated. They should be back in about 4 weeks.
No further word on the how the body is coming so far. Will post when I hear more.
Gunner
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Wow it must be nice to have someone on the home front to keep the build going, maybe you should just stay on the rig and that baby would be built in no time ;)
Hat's off to the Lady of the house for work well done !
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Gunner i cant wait to come and collect my car when youve finished it. !!
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Gunner i cant wait to come and collect my car when youve finished it. !!
Oddly enough, thats the same thing the wife told me on the phone just a minute ago ;D
Gunner
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Part are now arriving in the mail. Painless wiring harness and some other odds and ends are beginning to show up at the house
Gunner
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Gunner i cant wait to come and collect my car when youve finished it. !!
Oddly enough, thats the same thing the wife told me on the phone just a minute ago ;D
Gunner
Shouldnt be a problem for me then, Good news on the parts, you not sticking with the original wiring?
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Gunner i cant wait to come and collect my car when youve finished it. !!
Oddly enough, thats the same thing the wife told me on the phone just a minute ago ;D
Gunner
Shouldnt be a problem for me then, Good news on the parts, you not sticking with the original wiring?
Well glass fueses are getting hard to find around here, as well as we went from building a 79, and started with a 78. The wiring harness in the 78 was 30+ years old, and I'd hate to build a sweet car and watch it go up in smoke due to an electrical fire.
Gunner
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All true, i wonder how many other people here think about their wiring ? ill be running a modern loom to, but ill have to build mine. :-( lol
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All true, i wonder how many other people here think about their wiring ? ill be running a modern loom to, but ill have to build mine. :-( lol
The only reason it occured to me is that that exact same thing happend to a freind of mine in high school who built himself a VERY nice Nova over the period of a couple of years only to lose it a week and a half after he finished it for EXACTLY that same reason.
Mine is an 18 circut setup from Painless. Why not look at one of those? They're a little pricy, but it would save you a lot of time and headache. Surely it can wait till your classes are done?
Gunner
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you can also purchase a brand new harness from npd year one etc designed and built for these cars just food for thought. and the glass fuses are not scarce around here id be happy to mail you some.
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More and more stuff is showing up at the house. My new hood bird and decals (among other things) showed up yesterday ;D This it might me starting to come together.
Gunner
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Ok got some further word, and pictures are to follow
Had a visit with the guy who's building the engine and doing the machine work. Found out that my engine has a set of 6X heads. They cleaned up very nice, and are just about ready to put back on the block. Will have ARP studs and roller rockers
The engine itself is going to be decked, and the main and cam bores are good to go. Just need new bearings pressed into them. The engine needed to be bored forty over, but other than that was in good shape. Will also get the ARP treatment for the mains
The crank is being turned down ten under to clean up the journals.
Going to have a nice new Edelbrock Performer manifold, new water pump, and a nice new MSD ignition. Pistons will be replaced, but we're going to recondition and use the stock rods. Also a shortie set of Headman headers. Right now they're grinding a custom roller cam for the car
Tranny has beem built. Replacing the T350 with a T400 with a shift kit, Kevlar clutches, and hardend second gear sprag. Just waiting for the guy who built it to call me and tell me when I can come pick it up.
MOUNTAINS of stuff showing up just about daily..............Think it's coming along.........
More to follow
Gunner
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As long as you are happy is all that matters. Glad to hear work is being done. ETA?
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Looking at the end of the month.
Gunner
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Wow, i like what youre doing, its most certainly gonna boogie !
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Here's the new carb for the car
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Carb.jpg)
My guy says he can make it work with the shaker so I'm going for it. At least it will get the Rochester off of it.
Gunner
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is that a summit carb gunner?
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is that a summit carb gunner?
Could be. The guy building my car had it setting in a bag on a shelf and talked me into putting it on my car against that Quadrajet that I had on there. Says he can make the shaker work with this one, so I said go for it.
Gunner
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got it. didnt know for sure thats why i asked. so how is the paint coming along?
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Is that a bottle of Fabric softener ?
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got it. didnt know for sure thats why i asked. so how is the paint coming along?
Well due to the blizzard, and the fact that he's moving shops, it's not in paint yet, but it should be by the end of next week. I'm not going to get into somebody about weather delays. If I don't want to go out in it, I don't expect ANYBODY ELSE to have to go out in it, either. Weather delay is a weather delay. I can honestly say that none of the delays have been out of malice or neglect, just bad time management, so, it is what it is.
Gunner
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Is that a bottle of Fabric softener ?
Not it's Tide detergent. It's the bottle that I carry in my truck with me when I go to work (I carry detergent, bleach, toilet paper, and some canned food, in case I can't get to a store after I get to a job). You gotta carry stuff like that with you because right when you get out to a job they want you rigged up in the hole, running, and making sure that everything is right before they let you go to town and get stuff, so everybody carries some supplies with them to a job so they can get a snack, do a little laundry, or take a dump.
It's just the name of the game with my line of work ;D
Gunner
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(I carry detergent, bleach, toilet paper, and some canned food,
Sounds like MacGyver
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Here's the new carb for the car
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Carb.jpg)
My guy says he can make it work with the shaker so I'm going for it. At least it will get the Rochester off of it.
Gunner
Are you sure that is going to work? No air horn or choke I am sure with those humid cool mornings in MO the car is going to be interesting to start. Did you ask how many CFM that carb was,what about idle solenoid for AC and is your car auto or stick. With that carb having mechanical secondaries a 4 speed is usually better. Good luck
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Looking at those SUPER WHITE gloves, it must be a good detergent.
Sorry Sim, i couldnt resist and i know what a good sport you are. xx
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Are you sure that is going to work? No air horn or choke I am sure with those humid cool mornings in MO the car is going to be interesting to start. Did you ask how many CFM that carb was,what about idle solenoid for AC and is your car auto or stick. With that carb having mechanical secondaries a 4 speed is usually better. Good luck
It's a 650 monster demon. Choke is going to admittedly be a problem (but it will keep the wife out of while I'm gone on jobs ;D ) but I don't think it'll be anything insurmountable. As far as AC goes I'm replacing the stock unit with a Classic Air system, so I don't think that will be an issue either. My guy doing my car says he can make it work with the shaker (albeit with some mods to the breather). Personally I see more upside than down with this. The carb is a good one, as I bought it from the guy fixing my car, and have seen it in action (yeah I've heard the Demon carb horror stories). The thing is I've never been a fan of Rochester carbs, and the one I had on the car before only reinforced that opinion ( professionally installed brand new rebuild, and the back barrels wouldnt open, as well as a dead spot as wide as the Grand Canyon), so to me I'm coming out ahead. But time will definately tell. But if worse comes to worse I think I can get a choke kit for it.
Gunner
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Gunner ive had cars with multiple carb bodies and no chokes and yes they can be a b it of a pig to start sometimes, but they soon get over it.
My Blue bird has no choke, ( never has ) and that runs tickety boo, plus im in the Uk and we have all the glorious weather.....
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Looking at those SUPER WHITE gloves, it must be a good detergent.
Sorry Sim, i couldnt resist and i know what a good sport you are. xx
Actually those gloves are batting gloves for baseball that a freind of mine gave me because he thought they'd be good driving gloves ;D
Gunner
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You LIAR those are your " im checking for dust gloves " .... your poor wife.
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You LIAR those are your " im checking for dust gloves " .... your poor wife.
You got the wrong guy dude. I'm a card carrying, dyed in the wool, lifelong slob.............Thats a big no can do on the white glove test ;D
Gunner
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Michael Jackson impersonator ?
Nice to see things moving along with your car mate............ you really deserve it.
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Michael Jackson impersonator ?
Nice to see things moving along with your car mate............ you really deserve it.
Nope. No sequins, and I know where both of them are ;D
I'm just happy to see progress man
Gunner
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So whats the plan for the interior mate ?
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Ok here's what we got going. Going back in with Camel Tan. The dash pad is getting reworked at Just Dashes. Got the guages being recaliberated and refaced. Got new door panels waiting in the garage. New carpet, and seat covers there as well. Got hushmat and soundproofing coming. Just waiting on parts delivery. Got the new headliner, and waiting on the trim for the tops, and the sponge to reappolster the seats.
Just standing by to stand by
Gunner
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Wow, you've done alot of shopping.
Cant wait to see it all together, then again i suppose you cant either.
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Forward motion IS a nice thing to see
Gunner
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Forward motion IS a nice thing to see
Gunner
Glad to hear things are progressing Gunner .Sounds like shes going to be as clean as she was when she came off the assembly line .
Can't wait for some more pics !
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some serious pictures would be a wonderfull thing gunner.
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I know. I got so little down time last time that I wasn't able to unpack everything and get more pics. Car SHOULD be in paint this week, but waiting on that one. Engine WILL be done this week. Tranny already delivered. Got more parts than JC Whitney in the garage.
Will post pics when I can
Gunner
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Ok I got new pics for you guys. Here is the engine at the builders. It's coming together
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ShortBlock4.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ShortBlock2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ShortBlock1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ShortBlock5.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/806da401.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Carb.jpg)
Here are the only two of the body I've got so far. Will get more when I can
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/BodyComingTogether.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/8c1157ab.jpg)
It's coming along, folks. I'll have more pics when I get a chance.
Gunner
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WOW. I can't believe you posted pictures. lol. It is looking great. Tell them to keep it coming along.
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Very nice !!
But Gunner look at that ashtray full of FAG ENDS
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Carb.jpg
ROFL.
Nice mate, im really pleased for you. Honest.
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Well I can't beleive I acutally had TIME to post pictures. Been buiser than a one legged man at a butt kicking contest.
Gunner
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Very nice !!
But Gunner look at that ashtray full of FAG ENDS
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/Carb.jpg
ROFL.
Nice mate, im really pleased for you. Honest.
Well I it's been a bit stressful..............Smoking more than usual actually. This weeks been a killer too. Not going to go into it, but it sucked bigtime.
Gunner
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Thats definitely my favourite quote of the week
" Been buiser than a one legged man at a butt kicking contest. "
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Looks nice :)
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Hey Gunner,
Hope it all went well today.
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Hey Gunner,
Hope it all went well today.
Still stuck out on the rig. We've had a setback that will probably put us back about another week. But we can't go home yet.
Gunner
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Motor looks nice Gunner. I hope when you get her fired you can post a soundbite....nothing like the sound of a poncho in heat!
Hope you get off the rig soon too!
Rick C.
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Well I was SUPPOSED to go home yesterday, but I got sent to another job WHILE I WAS ON THE WAY HOME >:( Engine SHOULD be ready to fire today or tomorrw, but I hope they wait till I'm home. I got one of those iPhone 4's so I can get video of it too................But I got to figure out how to post a video clip here. Can you post it on Photobucket then copy the address over like a picture?
Gunner
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Yes. That's what I do. Just load it onto Photobucket and then your the URL code. Looking forward to it. Oh and they better wait for you to get back before they fire her up. Good luck with everything.
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Got some REAL good pics of.........beleive it or not.................PROGRESS ON THE BODY..................... :o
Somebody throw some water on English. I think he fainted........... ;D
Anyway I'll post them as soon as I figure out how to get them off my phone and on to photobucket
Edit Ok I figured it out
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/d32755ae.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/09973188.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/d32755ae.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/45649e59.jpg)
Gunner
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glad to hear progress is being made buddy.
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Gunner, something strange must be going on............. i posted after reading this great news and its dissapeared..............
Spooky. or was it the fact that id fainted? ................. strange comings and goings at the old mill.
Lets see them piccies then. ;D
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Got some REAL good pics of.........beleive it or not.................PROGRESS ON THE BODY..................... :o
Somebody throw some water on English. I think he fainted........... ;D
Anyway I'll post them as soon as I figure out how to get them off my phone and on to photobucket
Gunner
There's a Photobucket App you can get. I just got it last night. It's free. Good luck
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Gunner, something strange must be going on............. i posted after reading this great news and its dissapeared..............
Spooky. or was it the fact that id fainted? ................. strange comings and goings at the old mill.
Lets see them piccies then. ;D
Think you fainted old son! We had to hit you with a bucket of water to bring you around ;D
Gunner
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Here's the engine as she sits, waiting to be fired up. 400 Poncho, bored 40 over, roller cam, stainless roller rockers, head decked, block decked, crank balanced. It's waiting on me at the builders shop for it's first firing
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ccacb282.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ddbbbb0e.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ccacb282.jpg)
Just waiting to get off this PIG of a job
Gunner
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Geez. That thing is sweet. Hope they keep up progress...for their sake.
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Just to clarify. It's just the body guys that have been fiddleing around. The engine builder has been FIRST CLASS all the way through this little gig, and has been nothing but nice, on time, on target and absolutely STRAIGHT UP. I don't want anybody here to think otherwise.
But yeah, after the missus and I growled at the body people, I think, I HOPE, they got the hint.
I told her to tell them:"Look, you've had my iron, in some form or another for NINE months. Here's the deal. I will be down there, bright and shiny, on 1 May, with a trailer. And I will come get whats mine. Weither I DRIVE it onto a trailer, PUSH it onto a tailer, or CARRY it onto a trailer, it's leaving 1 May. It would be in your best interests if I can DRIVE it up there. But come Hell or high water, it leaves 1 May"
Gunner
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This is what it's all about. Looking good right there!
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Ok I'm about to show my ignorance here.
What the HELL is this?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/03f20016.jpg)
Here is a closer view. Not sure that if between my phone and photobucket it didn't swap sides though
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/84cc0fb8.jpg)
I ASSUME that that's a port for an EGR or PCV valve. If so, do I really need it? And if I don't what can I plug it with? And if I can't plug it can I put a PCV valve in it and run it back into the valve covers?
Gunner
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its the grommet that the PCV valve goes into.
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its the grommet that the PCV valve goes into.
Thats what I thought. Now, what does one do to make that magically go way..........or can one? I'd REALLY rather not circulate oily air into my shiny new carb.
Gunner
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Georgeous...................... its so, so , so shiny.
Im a jealous little Brit right now.
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very nice hopefully a black subframe and control arms doesnt content you enough to make them see you through more time. its easy to lay paint on that stuff. that shoudl have been done months and months ago.
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very nice hopefully a black subframe and control arms doesnt content you enough to make them see you through more time. its easy to lay paint on that stuff. that shoudl have been done months and months ago.
See thats the straw the finally broke the camels back. He's had that subframe off of the car for just about 3 weeks now. 2 weeks ago I walk in that shop, here is the front suspension STILL in the middle of the floor in pieces, and HE'S sanding out some knock off covers for SOMEBODY ELSES chevy rims. He'd HAD the parts to rework the front end, AS WELL as the body bushing kit to get it back on the FRONT of the car. And he had it for TWO WEEKS. THATS what initiated the countdown
But no, he's already been told that he's had MORE than enough time to get this off the ground and he's been fiddleing while Rome is burning. He knows I WILL be down there, bright and early 1 May at 0900 with a trailer, and I'll be there to get whats mine. It's would be in his best interest if I could DRIVE whats mine on to that trailer, but if I have to PUSH, or CARRY whats mine up there, so be it. But it's in his best interest to try to make sure I can DRIVE it up there.
Gunner
Gunner
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You have the patience of Jobe, that's for sure. Best of luck Gunner.
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You have the patience of Jobe, that's for sure. Best of luck Gunner.
Patience nothing, man. 1 May, it's over.
Gunner
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that gives him roughly 3 weeks. unless he has a major crew, i dont see this working out but i do have my fingers crossed for you.
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I'm crossing my fingers, too.
Would like for you to be happy and be able to bury your headaches with this body shop.
He surely don't/won't want a negative word of mouth to spread around.
Fingers are crossed
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Ok folks
Just got my guages back from being rebuilt and reworked.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/992e2364.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/1e8a4450.jpg)
Now all I need is a car to put the in
Gunner
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They looks very nice. You can use my car to put them in if you want. Just trying to help. ;)
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I dont mean to " nit pick " but the clock isn't showing the right time.
Very nice.
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^^^^^^^^^^LMAO
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Justin,
he deserves it mate !
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Steve, I'm surprise you didn't complain about the temp being a little warm and the oil pressure being low even thought it was revved up to 2100 RPM. lol All the fun aside Gunner the gauges look great !
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Hey even a stopped clock is right twice a day ;D
Gunner
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Hey even a stopped clock is right twice a day ;D
Gunner
Its right all the time if youre dislexic !
Tommy, i did notice that, but i thought that would just be TOO cruel, after all, hes had a rough ride lately......... and i didnt wanna upset the man.
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Yes you're quite right but I think maybe things have turned around for the good ! Maybe when things have settled down a might you could ask the Hoff to appear and offer his congratulations. ;)
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Man, those look sharp.... That one thing on my list of need to do's....
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gunner who did your guages? I am in need of a hood tach rebuild for a gto.
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Yes you're quite right but I think maybe things have turned around for the good ! Maybe when things have settled down a might you could ask the Hoff to appear and offer his congratulations. ;)
Dont even go there.................. you do know hes over here filming for a show.
I keep ignoring the phone.
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Man, Those do look nice. 1/2 tank of fuel would double the value of my Ford. LOL
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^^^^ At todays prices im not suprised.
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gunner who did your guages? I am in need of a hood tach rebuild for a gto.
AutoInstruments out of Virginia. I got their number if you'd like
Gunner
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that would be great dude pm me the info when you get a chance.
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Ok folks I got a BIG, BIG update
ENGINE IS RUNNING
Here is the video clip
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/th_Running1.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/?action=view¤t=Running1.mp4)
Estimated HP is 400 at the flywheel.
AND
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ReworkedDash1.jpg)
My freshly redressed dash from Just Dashes showed up today. All the big ticket items are complete except for the body, which has made LEAPS and bounds in the past three weeks. Engine and tranny go in tomorrow. Will post more photos tomorrow
Gunner
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Glad to hear the build going better for you Gunner. You sound way better than a couple of weeks back. All my best.
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Awesome. i'm so glad its starting to come together for you. Nothing worse than being on the fence straddling disaster and restored not knowing which way you're headed. The ol poncho mill was sounding really nice.
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That motor sound KILLER dude!
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i wish i had my sound clip fixed cant hear anything :(
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Gunner, im made up for you mate, i genuinely am.
You deserve some good news.
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Beastly
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Awesome...looks like you'll be driving her home after all...! Motor sounds good Gunner!
Rick C.
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Hey Reaper,
When you get so far into a resto there's a certain point where if you start over from scratch with yet another body that you've thrown away all that money spent on the work done on the previous body.
I know - I was on that ship when I restored my Y88. It's a decision that a majority of us have to face when you look at how much $$$$ you've already spent and whether or not you can walk away from it.
So considering Gunner's goals and where he is right now with the resto, I figure he's right on track. Well, provided his wife goes down to the shop a few more times ;)
Sorry Gunner, couldn't resist.
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Ok another update. Pics to follow.
Engine and tranny is in. Pics will follow soon. Still working on what we're going to do about the crossmember (we have the one out of the 78 we're going to try to rework to use. We have a universal tranny mount for it too).
@ Reaper
Thats pretty much what we didi. We're using the 78 for a parts car for the 79 we're building. The 79 is a California car, with NO rust whatsoever.............just had to get them MOVING........
Gunner
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Ok folks status update: We've had a last minute................
COLOR CHANGE!
Gail goes and gets the paint tomorrow. Should start painting Friday or Monday. First one to guess the color............
Well I guess they'll be first to guess the color.....;D
Gunner
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I don't even know what color it was going to be before ;D .
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Well i was going to go with white, but the missus FINALLY relented at the last minute and we're going with a dark emerald green. Ought to work with the gold bird, se stripes, and camel tan interior. ;D
Gunner
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Nice combo, looking forward to seeing the pics in the not too distant future. Been having my fingers crossed for you.
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I'm looking forward to it too. I'm out on a job right now. Pics will be interesting ;D
Gunner
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Gunner,
Have you heard or seen anything from the shop? Are they going to be done by the 1st?
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Ok folks I got a BIG, BIG update
ENGINE IS RUNNING
Here is the video clip
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/th_Running1.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/?action=view¤t=Running1.mp4)
This video clip just made my day ---- "BIG SMILE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well i was going to go with white, but the missus FINALLY relented at the last minute and we're going with a dark emerald green. Ought to work with the gold bird, se stripes, and camel tan interior. ;D
Gunner
That is going to look awesome, there was a guy on TAC that had a dark green and gold TA. If my car was not a Y84 I would have gone that color. I cant wait to see pics good choice. Your car will definately stand out from all the gold and black TAs
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Well they won't be done by the first. I backed off that one a bit. But I did tell them that I'd BETTER see CONCRETE progress EVERY time I go in that shop from now on. And the missus cracking the whip. Estimated being done (except for decals because the paint has to cure) by the 15-21st timeframe
But the joke is OVER
Gunner
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Superb mate, i cant wait to see it done !!
Interesting colour choice mate....
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Well i was going to go with white, but the missus FINALLY relented at the last minute and we're going with a dark emerald green. Ought to work with the gold bird, se stripes, and camel tan interior. ;D
Gunner
dude that sounds so frickin cool, i am really wanting to do something like that with a dark green and camel interior, i was wanting to go with brewster green from 73, how close is the green you chose to brewster. your ta is going to look sick. i want brewster on a 78 ta with t tops and 4 spd.
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That's a good color scheme. My 74 bird was emerald with a white interior...that's what drew my eye to her in the used car lot. I think you're really going to enjoy that look.
Rick c.
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Official name of the paint is
Mercedes hunter green w/gold metalflake. It's a 2011 color
That ought to set off a gold bird and camel tan interior right nice.
Gunner
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Hey Gunner I'm guessing you have a hood already for that beast? I didn't see any pics with a hood ? but I could have missed something I'm sure... I you need a 79' hood I have a silver one form a TATA just sitting around going to no use for me..Let me know..
and great build looking forward to more pics.
JOSH
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Thanks man but I have the hood from my 78 that I'm going to use. It's one of the few pieces on the car that is in good shape so I'm going to use it. But I do appreciate it!
Gunner
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Got pics to post, but photobucket is being weird. Will post later
Gunner
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oh come on there has to be a picture you know the rules by now.
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oh come on there has to be a picture you know the rules by now.
I got the pics, but something is weirding out Photobucket and I can't get them uploaded. When it gets better, I'll post them, but they got a MAJOR glitch going on right now. Their servers are probably overloaded due to the Royal weddding.
Gunner
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Probably SEF posting all of the Royal family pictures he will surely post some here with them posing with his car. :)
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Probably SEF posting all of the Royal family pictures he will surely post some here with them posing with his car. :)
ROFL. ................ i really dont know how to answer that.
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Glad to hear all is going well but like everyone else....waiting for pictures.
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Got some will try to post tonight. PITA on an iPhone
Gunner
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Ok folks you asked for it, you got it.
MORE NEW PICS
Ok here we go
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0699.jpg)
Rear End Inspection
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0708.jpg)
Here are the numbers on the rear end. 2.41 to 1. 0 to 60 in 3.5.........................Days............. ;D
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0721.jpg)
On her feet
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0722.jpg)
PAINT!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0723.jpg)
MORE PAINT : This was shot yesterday after paint was shot
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0750.jpg)
This is today after it's been buffed. Not quite complete yet, but you can see the gold pearl in the paint
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0755.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0735.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0730.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0732.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0745.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0738.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0746.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/TA%20pics%20Three/IMG_0725.jpg)
Here is where we sit today. We hauled all the stuff out of the garage over there today. It ain't gonna be long now.
Gunner
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Looks like a really nice color. Car is looking great!
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I am loving that color and I dont like green
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Man, that looks good. Can't wait to see what it looks like all together.
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Can someone please make a drool smiley! Nice.
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Thanks for the pics. Glad it's finally coming together for you. Makes me want to grind for those few more minutes each time I can get a chance. The motor looks great also and looking forward to her coming all together.
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Can someone please make a drool smiley! Nice.
(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/22254-1/drool.gif)
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Very nice mate, i was unsure of the colour choice at first , but its better than i expected.
GOOD ON YOU !
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not a fan of green, but the gold in the green is really sharp with the gold wheels.
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I think it's going to look great plus be something different than what you usually see.
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gunner i am sooo happy to see your car in paint. this is great news and it looks even better than the news.
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Also glad to see the progress. That's a nice shade of green. How did you choose it and what color decals and interior will you use?
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Also glad to see the progress. That's a nice shade of green. How did you choose it and what color decals and interior will you use?
x2, you had me sweating bullets thinking there was going to be 2 white SE's on the forum.
gold decals would really pop on that green.
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I was thinking that too :) .
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looks great..... green and gold are(were) my school colors
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Very nice color :) sort of looks like Brewster Green, and it really looks great on your car :)
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I like the color combo also.Really looks good.
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Looks sweet gunner. I really think that will looks sharp with all the green and all the decals, along with the tan interior.
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Well I wanted it to be different. Never seen a white one before (till I got on the board ;D), and never EVER saw a green one. Well I wanted her to be different, and and eye catcher, so white, while cool, was already taken. Racked my brain to try to come with something different that would go with a camel tan interior. Then I remembered a Vette I saw at a dealer when I was a kid, dark green and camel tan. And the rest is history. Should have more pics today actually.
Gunner
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My car was originally berkshire green (dark green) with the camel tan interior. The paint was horrible on the car when I got it though. I don't think the previous owner knew how to wash a car, because I don't think it was ever washed or waxed. I will be changing color however also. My car will be Prowler Orange Metallic, which is a coppery orange color that came on the Plymouth Prowler.
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No new pics right this given minute, but the windshield and back glass are in, and we just went down and picked up brand new door glass just this afternoon
It's coming together
Gunner
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Im really pleased for you Sim.
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Ok folks more photos (now that I've got time. You wouldn't BELEIVE the week I had last week.)
ANWAY here is what I got shot before I had to leave out on another job yesterday
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ebf02cc4.jpg)
Here she is with the sound deadner and and dynamat in it
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/92a9f689.jpg)
Here she is with the back glass in it. We transplanted that out of the 78 into the 79
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/e3a944e5.jpg)
Here she is with the windshield in, metal part of the dash painted camel tan, engine, wiring harness
Didn't get a chance to shoot pics, but I located two BRAND NEW door windows for the car.
The only glass that was resued was the rear window out of the 78 as it had rear window defog, and the windshield as it was brand new (The first thing I replaced on the 78)
More pics to follow when I get home
Gunner
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looking sharp
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That is gonna be one Bad a** car dude!
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it's going to look sweat indeed!!
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Its lovely to see it coming together.
The colour is going to look great when its all back.
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I can't wait to see it with the gold SE stripes on it. That ought to work REAL good with the green
Gunner
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I LOVE the green. You need a good artist to make you a hood bird crossed with the incredible Hulk.
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Wow Gunner I was just thinking about you and found your thread again . I think that green paint looks just incredible !
It's going to look great with gold accents . I'm glad to see that your seeing some progress finally .
I've been out of the loop a bit and was wondering if there is a definite finish date now ?
I have to say I can hardly wait to see her done with this color
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@Rainman
Well, I would guess about two or three weeks from now. I've backed off the hard finish date, as there has been quite a bit of progress made, and as customers coming in to his shop have slowed down, I've cut him some slack. I'm not trying to break the guy, just get him moving. Work has been slow for all the body shops around the house, so I haven't said anything if something comes in and he can make some money. He's got bills to pay too, and I don't want to see him go under, just get some damn time management skills.
But it SHOULD be done in 2-3 weeks I'm guessing
Gunner
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Well I am very happy to hear your going to have your T/A for the summer ,and glad to hear you've got things worked out with the shop .
This has been quite an adventure for you ,and I think the final outcome is going to be worth it
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Great to see her coming together for you.
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Got more pics. GOOD pics...........It actually looks like a CAR..................
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/e06a301c.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/2604bdf5.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/7800aa93.jpg)
Gunner
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IT FLIES LIKE A DE LOREAN !!!!
Run for it Marty!
Really, really nice to see it coming together for you mate, superb.
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Wow its coming together! (http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/images/clap.gif)
I love the looks of the emeral green and the gold on the wheels already ,what a great combo
This is going to be amazing when shes outside getting her picture taken .You are putting on a gold bird to right?
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IT FLIES LIKE A DE LOREAN !!!!
Run for it Marty!
Really, really nice to see it coming together for you mate, superb.
No we just had the Flux Capacitor up and operating for testing. You ought to see the optional Tardis interior I put in the trunk. There's a 6000 square foot house back there..........just a long walk to get there ;D (Inside English Sci Fi joke for all you Americans out there ;D )
Gunner
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Wow its coming together! (http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/images/clap.gif)
I love the looks of the emeral green and the gold on the wheels already ,what a great combo
This is going to be amazing when shes outside getting her picture taken .You are putting on a gold bird to right?
Oh yeah. Gold 79 bird, with gold SE stripes on it.
Gunner
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Looking Good!
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That green and gold are going to look sweet....glad to see things are working out for you in the end.
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looks really good man.
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IT FLIES LIKE A DE LOREAN !!!!
Run for it Marty!
Really, really nice to see it coming together for you mate, superb.
No we just had the Flux Capacitor up and operating for testing. You ought to see the optional Tardis interior I put in the trunk. There's a 6000 square foot house back there..........just a long walk to get there ;D (Inside English Sci Fi joke for all you Americans out there ;D )
Gunner
ROFL
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Your progress is looking good, I am really liking the green. Sweet car Gunner.
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I can't wait to see it when it's finished. The gold SE piping on the green ought to be interesting to say the least ;D
Gunner
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Green and Gold...that was my High school colours!!!
Lockerby Vikings!!!
#60 was my foorbal # and played defensive end/tackle...sometimes offensive tackle,
The car is going to look sweet!!
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Update: Seats are back from the upholsterer
Check these out
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/e8018684.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/b1e5ea49.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/7c416f37.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/046958b7.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/3e461225.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/e8018684.jpg)
Its getting closer every day
Gunner
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How much is left to do mate ?
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How much is left to do mate ?
To be honest I'm not quite sure. All the pics I've posted lately have come during this week have been sent to me. I'm THINKING that it should be about two weeks, but I'm not quite sure about that
Gunner
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So will it be ready for you next time your home?
If not i can help " run it in " for you..........
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Wow seats look awesome Gunner. Your going to have a brand new car when your done
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Wow seats look awesome Gunner. Your going to have a brand new car when your done
That's kinda what I'm hoping for actually. I don't want to have to do this again for a long, LONG time.
Gunner
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Ok I have been waiting patiently here to see her debut . And I'm about as patient as you are Gunner (http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/images/laugh.gif)
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Ok I have been waiting patiently here to see her debut . And I'm about as patient as you are Gunner (http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/images/laugh.gif)
SERIOUSLY. I'm glad someone said something. What the heck? We need updates or a complete car. Don't hold out on us please.
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LOL go get him Justin !!!
Come on Gunner, do you really want an angry mob at your door? :-*
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Nice ride and I like the green.I had a 76 corvette that was the same color it changed in the sun light..Looking good.......nice job.
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Well here's the story so far folks. I've been stuck on this job for three weeks now, and it looks like I got another week before we're done, so I'm standing by just like everybody else.
Work has slowed down the car a little as the big stuff to do has been completed and they're working on the smaller, more detail oriented parts that are time consuming but not real photogenic, if you take my meaning. He's having some other problems too (not with the car, but you know what I mean) and that's eating up some time too. I haven't had any recent pics, but I am looking forward to getting home and seeing what's going on myself.
Gunner
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LOL go get him Justin !!!
Come on Gunner, do you really want an angry mob at your door? :-*
I don't mind angry mobs at my door, or any OTHER kind of mobs, actually. I just ply the mob with BEER
WITH BEER (subtle hint);D
Gunner
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Did someone mention beer ?
I'd love to bring you some but it doesnt travel well...........
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Well I know what WE like to call beer in the US generally doesn't pass European standards, but, as we ALL know, after about three standards go out the window. And while US beer generally doesn't tickle the European QUALITY standards, we do have QUANTITY covered ;D
Gunner
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Im a Lager man meself........... Bud and Miller are fine by me...... we English do have a BAD reputation in Europe for drinking..........
But im sure at some point we can compare notes.
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Ok guys.
I'm home on days off but I've been REALLY busy and just now have time to post some pics. First off here's the car as she sat thursday.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/fbb5aba4.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/0431cdef.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/3a8e92bc.jpg)
Right now they're finishing up the wiring (the Painless harness.........well.........wasn't) they're fitting the rubbers for the tops, and are about to install the steering column and the Vintage Air AC. We're going to use the 78 column because 1) it's in better shape than the two 79 columns he has, 2) I like the dimmer swithch on the floor and 3) Fat boy needs tilt to get in and out of his car ;D.
Now as for what I've been distracted with. Well the wife found me a REAL deal on a new work truck. We traded my good old Warhorse
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/0b0f82c0.jpg)
For this
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/80daac7f.jpg)
Warhorse II. My new prime mover/work truck. We got a KILLER deal on it. An old duffer bought it early in the year to pull a fifth wheel. Well he decided to retire, didn't need a prime mover anymore, so he traded the truck about 2 weeks ago for a brand new F150. Wife spotted it while I was out on a job. Went and looked at it and hey, it was too good to pass up. A brand new 2011 truck, will 90% of the options, with about 15K knocked off of it. And only 10K on the clock. It was just too good to pass up. But getting it financed and all that crap has been eating up most of my time since I've been home.
This is my work rig all loaded up. Yes I use the trailer when I'm out on the job too. But me and the missus use it for traveling also
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/20ef4665.jpg)
But I PROMISE that I'll have more pics and such before I go out again! ;D
Gunner
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Gunner, thats a stunning looking combo, it must be cos even the wife made a comment about how nice it was.
Any idea on when the Ta will be finished?
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I hope your getting close Gunner , the sun us actually suppose to come out next week.
There talking T roof weather here by tuesday
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Looking like about 2 weeks ;D
Gunner
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Looking like about 2 weeks ;D
Gunner
Good to hear Gunner ,bet your getting just a tad excited right around now . I really want to see her with those gold decals
Hopefully the laser is operating by next weekend and I can whip you up a little something to commemorate her debut .
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Actually they're putting the bird on the hood Friday, so it should make for interesting photos come Monday ;D
Gunner
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Love that truck man, the car looks great too! I wish I had the scratch for a super duty! I got the 2011 fx4 ecoboost instead.
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Looking like about 2 weeks ;D
Gunner
Now that is good news....
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Love that truck man, the car looks great too! I wish I had the scratch for a super duty! I got the 2011 fx4 ecoboost instead.
The thing about it is if I didn't have a truck allowance at work and if I didn't have that, quite frankly, I couldn't swing it either.
Gunner
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Now that is good news....
Honestly, me and the missus are suffering from car building burnout. This has been such a long, drawn out, nerve wracking, painful process that I honestly doubt that I ever do it again.
We're just to the "for the love of GOD get it OVER with" stage
Gunner
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Send it here, ill build them !!
Or ill come across as " Miguel " lol.
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Nice rig Gunner. I know my wife and I just love hitting the open road also. Load up the dogs and we are just gone. Even though your journey with the TA has been stressful at times to say the least, I've enjoyed watching it. It's nice to see your satisfaction as the project comes to completion. Best of luck finishing her off.
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Actually they're putting the bird on the hood Friday, so it should make for interesting photos come Monday ;D
Gunner
Hey it's Monday here in Canada lol. I really want to see the hood bird on that green paint outside in the sun !
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Actually they're putting the bird on the hood Friday, so it should make for interesting photos come Monday ;D
Gunner
Hey it's Monday here in Canada lol. I really want to see the hood bird on that green paint outside in the sun !
Well no bird yet. But the pedals are in and they're working on getting the hood on the car, and they've put the spoiler on the trunk
Here are the pics
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/IMG_1036.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/IMG_1037.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/IMG_1038.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/IMG_1039.jpg)
Gunner
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I really love the gold in that green paint, looking good!
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Well got further word last night. Bird and penstriping are going on the car Saturday. Will DEFINATELY have pics of THAT. Been waiting a LONG time for THAT one.
Gunner
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Will DEFINATELY have pics of THAT. Been waiting a LONG time for THAT one.
Gunner
So have we............ xx lol.
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Will DEFINATELY have pics of THAT. Been waiting a LONG time for THAT one.
Gunner
So have we............ xx lol.
Yeah yeah yeah.................. ;D
Gunner
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wow...it's coming along nicely eh!!
I really like it!!!
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Well supposedly the bird, decals and penstriping goes on Saturday. We'll see.
Gunner
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Psst...they messed up. Look where they mounted the headlights:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/IMG_1036.jpg)
Sorry, couldn't resist. ;D
And I've been to the "will it ever make it out of the shop under its own power" phase. So hang in there, its getting close.
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Gunner,
Been awhile since I have seen your post and I finally got all caught up. All I can say is WOW!!!!!! I LOVE the green. Daring move on your part and it is awesome! I hate cookie cutter cars. Anyone can just build one like everyone else but it takes true vision to go out on a limb and go with something different.
AWESOME job by you and the wife!!!
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Ok boys.......today she got the bird!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/94c6bd76.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/dd9ae1b8.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/fa1ed848.jpg)
The green and gold works GOOD ;D
Gunner
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That looks killer dude!
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That looks fantastic, great color choice....
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That is a great color combonation!!!!!!!
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I love the color combo Gunner. Now its almost time to play >:D I am excited for you, I know its been a very long road but we have all enjoyed watching this build come together.
Josh
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I see a bubble !!...Just kidding.. DANG that color combo is Awesome great choice Gunner.
JOSH
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dont worry i wear jeans and a shirt so no trauma.
Glad you told us before the mental picture set in. :o
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I ended up reading this whole thread again today, man it's been a crazy ride for you. ( I feel your pain) I would almost bet it must be a missouri thing (Mines in lebanon, MO going on 1 yr and a few mths) with the shops taking thier time, lol... I'm glad to see this car finally getting some decals put on, it looks amazing....
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that green and gold POPs as good as white and gold, maybe better
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Gunner i just seen your recent pics and she looks Killer!
Great contrast happening there
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July 1st long weekend and I thought you would be driving!
Just kidding bro , it is what it is .
Hey the sail bird looks like it has pearl in it just like the paint? They sure did a fine job on the hood bird ,looks as straight as can be
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Dude that is Flippin SWEET!!!!!
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Wow Gunner, I absolutely love the color!! Looks great with the gold decals, and it's very different!
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Adding gold is always a good idea.
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Perfect match Gunner. Are you gonna make a video of your first ride out the door? I think we'ld all like to see it in action.
Rick C.
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Agreed....that color was an excellent choice!
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That looks great! I like the color combo a lot. Good work.
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Well I'm out on a job so I'm waiting for further word on progress. The last time I went and looked was the day before I went out. They had the door glass in and the power windows working. Not very photogenic so I didn't shoot any pics. Hopefully the missus will go and give it a look here in a day or two and send some pics.
Gunner
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Ok here's some more photo's of the progress. This is mostly little stuff on the body. I believe they're just about done with the external body stuff, and after this they're concentrating on turning her from a cold lump of steel to a warm breathing TA ;D
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/cari-1.jpg)
Fitting the center spoiler
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/carH-2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/carg-1.jpg)
Door mirrors
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/carf-1.jpg)
Fender flares and turn markers
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/carc.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/carb-2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/cara.jpg)
Brake booster and front end
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/card.jpg)
Shot of rear flares
Just some little things. The progress continues
Gunner
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Wow, it's been a while since I checked out your restore post. You have got a crap load of stuff done. And the colors !! "I LOVE 'EM". I always like dark green on most all cars. Tried to get a Forest Green Grand Prix once, but ended up with black. The gold decals with that green looks awesome man. Hey, "green and gold" you can drive over here to Wisconsin "Green Bay Packer Land", and there won't be a person here not wanting to shake you hand. The T/A is looking great. Can't wait to see more of it. Keep chipping away at it, and it will be done before you know it. Super Job!
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Its nice to see some progress Gunner, as those little things add up . She sure is looking purdy.
To think it's only 2 more weeks away to completion .You could make the NATS!
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Perfect match Gunner. Are you gonna make a video of your first ride out the door? I think we'ld all like to see it in action.
Rick C.
Funny you beat ne to it as I was hoping there would be video of her debut
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Gunner the car looks great man.
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Im so pleased for you, nice to see its getting closer.
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Its really comeing along. Looking good.
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Here's the official poop from the Missus back home. They're going to try to have it done by the 15th. No new pics yet, but she's getting WAY WAY close.
Gunner
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Glad to hear it gunner you have been waiting so long good luck.
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Thats only 4 days away !! Congrats Gunner.
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Awesome!!
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Well. Here it is the 16th and no pics yet...must be making a music video! I can't wait! (lol)
How'ya doin Gunner?
Rick C.
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I'm waiting too. I feel bad for the refresh button.
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No further word folks...............I'll let you know when there is.............I haven't heard anything either one way or the other...........
Gunner
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Darn ,it would have been cool if she was ready on your birthday (although you were working your butt off that day anyways so you wouldn't have had a chance to enjoy her)
Well hopefully she's not far from completion
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Maybe they meant the 15th of September.... Let's hope not.....
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i have been very patient but i am loosing it waiting to see the final product. my dream build is very close to yours and i will do it sooner than later. 78 ta with tops, brewster green with 73 decals, honeycomb wheels, tan hobnail, 4spd with mild build, can't wait.
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No final product yet. Got some pics today. It's coming but still slow. Will post a little later when I get access to my computer
Gunner
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Ok as promised more pics of the car. They're still working on it............
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Progress
Gunner
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Looking good Gunner!
I remember putting my 84 GMC together and when the carpet was installed things started to take some real shape . I hope these guys commit some solid hours to her the next few days as she could be on the road next week
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I wouldn't bet on it
Gunner
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Dude that puppy is smoking! You're closer than I am! LOL I cant wait for you to upload that cheese eating video of you taking off sideways!! Hang in there. You are close.
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Thats nice!
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Ok folks I got more progress pics
Here are the subframe connectors
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What the HELL is this thing anyway?
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Vacume Can And ICM mounted
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It coming
Gunner
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Looking good, I think that one pic is a mistake, or maybe they thought you'd really want to see the back of the drivers rear wheel spoiler, lol
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Looking good, I think that one pic is a mistake, or maybe they thought you'd really want to see the back of the drivers rear wheel spoiler, lol
That's kinda what I thought myself......but WHY! ;D
Gunner
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For some reason I'm thinking there might be an issue with the shaker fitting with the vaccum canister there?
Maybe it looks closer than it really is in the picture.
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For some reason I'm thinking there might be an issue with the shaker fitting with the vaccum canister there?
Maybe it looks closer than it really is in the picture.
Building a custom breather so the shaker will work properly with the carb as well as taking care of clearance issues
Gunner
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Looks like it's coming together nicely.
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Closer and closer mate, it looks as though it will be worth the wait.
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I cant say it enough...looking sweet!
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Just ready for it to be DONE, already...............
Gunner
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Just ready for it to be DONE, already...............
Gunner
Amen. I know what u mean.
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You folks may or may not believe this.....................
My wife just got word from my body guy. The car will be done TOMORROW. Waiting on a yoke and driveshaft.
Climbing the walls waiting for picutres. Hopefully I can get off this damn rig tonight and go see her in person tomorrow.
Will post pics as SOON as I possibly can.
Gunner
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Hope their good on their word....
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From what I've been told they're waiting on a yoke and a driveshaft, and thats all thats left, other than getting it aligned and getting pipes put on it
Gunner
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Fantastic news mate.
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WHOO HOO, cant wait to see the finished project.
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Ok false alarm. They're about a week away from the looks of it. Here are more pics.
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It's coming.............Just not as fast as we thought. They still have to get the AC organized, get the dash wiring organized, get everything mounted, etc. I thought it would take them a little longer, but well it's one of tham thangs.
Gunner
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I know its been said time and time again, but its really looking great, what more can i say?
I bet you cant wait to get them wheels spinning.
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I know its been said time and time again, but its really looking great, what more can i say?
I bet you cant wait to get them wheels spinning.
Yeah..............I'm PAST ready..............But the upside of this is that they're AREN'T done this time (I know I know, what am I thinking, but I'll tell you my reasoning). I get off this job on Friday, after 46 days on this pig. I'd kinda like to be HOME and shoot my OWN pics of the finished product rather than have the missus shoot them for me, if you know what I mean.
Gunner
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I do. Im genuinely pleased for you.
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what are the plans with the air cleaner base, looks to have dual snorkle, leave them open or run the duck work on both sides.
should have at least one good month of cruising this year once they are done.
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Well at least it's down to weeks.... The guys working on mine couldn't even tell me if it'd be done by Oct....
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Looking great Gunner, it will be well worth the wait!!
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what are the plans with the air cleaner base, looks to have dual snorkle, leave them open or run the duck work on both sides.
should have at least one good month of cruising this year once they are done.
Well they actually had to fab the breather so the shaker works correctly, instead of bolting the shaker to the hood to make the carb work. It will have to KB cone style external filters at the corner of the fenders with two hoses coming off the filters into the breather. I think it's gonna work pretty good.
Gunner
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For a minute there there was a glimmer of hope that I was going to be able to make it to the nationals..............but a perfect storm of events out here at the rig and at home managed to nix that >:(
Gunner
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gunner im stoked for you. this thing is looking great and cannot wait to see it finished 100%
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Ok folks the "finished tomorrow" was a bit unrealistic. It was a nice gesture on their part, but a bit unrealistic. BUT, the exhaust goes on next Wednsday, and they are getting VERY close. It IS down to small stuff that might have to be fabbed rather than bought, so progress might slow a tad.
But I digress
They moved the car out so they could do some work in the shop on another project they had to work on (I know, I know, but he has to pay the bills too. And we're waiting on some hoses for the AC system to be fabbed before they can continue). BUT we get a good look at her out in the sun
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/ef961ce0.jpg)
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As far as the breather goes, this is the final configuration, but we're looking at it and analyzing the geometry on it. We're wondering of the filters and the horns are going to be crammed against the inner fenderwells and hood, and if so, weither we're going to shorten the horns, or run hoses or whatever. Thats the way it's gonna BE, we're just wondering if we're going to have to tweak it anymore to fit.
Gunner
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My only critism, its sitting a little high ( alot of air in those wheel arches ).
But the colour is superb.
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Looking great Gunner, I can't wait to see it all finished.
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My only critism, its sitting a little high ( alot of air in those wheel arches ).
But the colour is superb.
Well the springs are new on all four corners, and she hasn't settled in yet.
Gunner
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If they tightened the front control arm bushings and leaf spring bushings while the car was still jacked up with the suspension hanging, then the bushings will be holding the car up higher than it should be. The bushings should be tightened only after the car is on the ground with the car's weight on the suspension and after having been bounced up and down a few times to settle the bushings to a relaxed position. Then tighten.
Maybe they did that, but just in case they didn't, it's something you can ask them about.
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If they tightened the front control arm bushings and leaf spring bushings while the car was still jacked up with the suspension hanging, then the bushings will be holding the car up higher than it should be. The bushings should be tightened only after the car is on the ground with the car's weight on the suspension and after having been bounced up and down a few times to settle the bushings to a relaxed position. Then tighten.
Maybe they did that, but just in case they didn't, it's something you can ask them about.
Definately will do. Thanks for the heads up.
Gunner
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she looks great Gunner.
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another guy at the nats did the same intake setup as you... If I had a camera, and wasnt busy being told to move my car left and right... I would have snapped a picture of it...
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just keep that bug eater out of winners circle.
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Just seen the most recent pics Gunner ,looks awesome !
I have to say that's a great color combo
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It's been a while ,Gunner please tell us that's she's minutes away from completion !
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Your car looks great Gunner :) real beauty :)
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Your car looks great Gunner :) real beauty :)
X2 Gunner
Hey Frode Ski mate, your about to pop the 1000 posts 8) 8) 8)
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Extremely nice.
The pictures of your T/A out in the sun brought a quick smile.
You and your wife surely will have one awesome T/A.
Congrats!!!!
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Your car looks great Gunner :) real beauty :)
X2 Gunner
Hey Frode Ski mate, your about to pop the 1000 posts 8) 8) 8)
yeah getting even closer with this one ;)
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Your car looks great Gunner :) real beauty :)
X2 Gunner
Hey Frode Ski mate, your about to pop the 1000 posts 8) 8) 8)
yeah getting even closer with this one ;)
lol
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Well I got a small snag. I don't know if it's done or not.
I'm in Maine
Missus wanted a vacation, so we're up here eating lobsters and roaming around. Gonna call my guy here in a minute and get a status update. Haven't posted in a while as the missus has declared computers VERBOTEN and all I got right now is this damn iPhone. Will update when I get word.
Gunner
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If they tightened the front control arm bushings and leaf spring bushings while the car was still jacked up with the suspension hanging, then the bushings will be holding the car up higher than it should be. The bushings should be tightened only after the car is on the ground with the car's weight on the suspension and after having been bounced up and down a few times to settle the bushings to a relaxed position. Then tighten.
Maybe they did that, but just in case they didn't, it's something you can ask them about.
just saw this post my suspension is high. and i done all the bushings with the trans am on stands. thanks for the tip
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Have been lookin at your post, read it from page 1 to 34. I note that you are unhappy with the body guys regarding progress. After reading your post it is clear to me that you started with seeking an ac job, then decided to get a very nice paint job and engine rebuild, then wanted t-tops instaled, then found out your car was a buckit and decided to move to a real t-top car, the you decided on a full blown show car but could not pick a color. It note from your pics that the car was blasted, body worked for a show car, prime and blocked 4 to 5 times with ample shrink time 3-4 weeks between each, then paint, then setup time, then put on bird, then asemble. On the front sub frame it looks to me like many hours of work went into deburing it and making it slick. I thought you sad this was a body shop, yet they are doing alot mor then body and paint work from what I see. You should give credit where credit is due. You did not have all the stuff to build it in the time you was demanding yet the time spent was proper for a lon lasting knock out paint job and everyone in the biz knows that it is alot of body prep to go frm a 95% paint job and a 100% WoW job like you got on that one of a kind show car you now have. I see at least 230 hours tied up in the body prep, paint part and near 220 hour in other work to the car that is not body and paint. That is not including your engine and trans build or stuff you sent out to vendors. So you got a 15000-20000 paint job plus all the labor and fab work that is seen in your pics and mechanical / int labor, another 15000 or so there then there is sundries and other hard parts somone paid for? Its a dang bitchen ride you got there and your darn lucky the body guy took his time to get it right. Read your post you have been silly. Wanting a car don when you lacked everything to get it donn, and the color WOW it Pops but you did not settle on a color untill the end of APR 2011. The car is Wow so quit pissing on the body guy. It I was that guy, I would not have don that job fror less than 60,000 nor woould any other TA shop so get real gunner and quit wooping up on the body guys for your lack of planning and such.
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Gunner,
See you at the shows, look for a fake 69 ta rag top whith white seats ls7 and 6speed tagged fakerrr would love to see you car up close and personal. I just love that color combo you came up with.
Did not mean to be hard on you just thought the world needs to understand you do not get top lastings jobs quick, this ain't TV land!
Go when some shows and enjoy that 1 off custom you got there.
Regards
evilspeedracer
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Have been lookin at your post, read it from page 1 to 34. I note that you are unhappy with the body guys regarding progress. After reading your post it is clear to me that you started with seeking an ac job, then decided to get a very nice paint job and engine rebuild, then wanted t-tops instaled, then found out your car was a buckit and decided to move to a real t-top car, the you decided on a full blown show car but could not pick a color. It note from your pics that the car was blasted, body worked for a show car, prime and blocked 4 to 5 times with ample shrink time 3-4 weeks between each, then paint, then setup time, then put on bird, then asemble. On the front sub frame it looks to me like many hours of work went into deburing it and making it slick. I thought you sad this was a body shop, yet they are doing alot mor then body and paint work from what I see. You should give credit where credit is due. You did not have all the stuff to build it in the time you was demanding yet the time spent was proper for a lon lasting knock out paint job and everyone in the biz knows that it is alot of body prep to go frm a 95% paint job and a 100% WoW job like you got on that one of a kind show car you now have. I see at least 230 hours tied up in the body prep, paint part and near 220 hour in other work to the car that is not body and paint. That is not including your engine and trans build or stuff you sent out to vendors. So you got a 15000-20000 paint job plus all the labor and fab work that is seen in your pics and mechanical / int labor, another 15000 or so there then there is sundries and other hard parts somone paid for? Its a dang bitchen ride you got there and your darn lucky the body guy took his time to get it right. Read your post you have been silly. Wanting a car don when you lacked everything to get it donn, and the color WOW it Pops but you did not settle on a color untill the end of APR 2011. The car is Wow so quit pissing on the body guy. It I was that guy, I would not have don that job fror less than 60,000 nor woould any other TA shop so get real gunner and quit wooping up on the body guys for your lack of planning and such.
for being a new guy and showing up and one of your first post is ragging on somebody you have a lot of nerve... that is very rude and dissrespectful I would love to see where you are getting your labor hours and numbers from, cause from working in a shop that does just about everything you are full of it and there is no lack of planning anywhere, if a shop says a deadline and cannot fulfill their part it is on them.... not the owner so drop it.....
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for being a new guy and showing up and one of your first post is ragging on somebody you have a lot of nerve... that is very rude and dissrespectful...
Kinda' thought the same thing...first post and a bit disrespectful to the cars owner...yet complimentary of the car at the same time...??
Also no idea how the labor hours could be calculated by a reader simply by looking at post dates and pictures...
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From what rock crawleth he???
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From what rock crawleth he???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFMDLakxaY
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I love it!
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Forget about Mr. Highspeed, I want to know if there's been any update? The phone call? C'mon man your killing us with the suspense! ;) ;D
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for being a new guy and showing up and one of your first post is ragging on somebody you have a lot of nerve... that is very rude and dissrespectful I would love to see where you are getting your labor hours and numbers from, cause from working in a shop that does just about everything you are full of it and there is no lack of planning anywhere, if a shop says a deadline and cannot fulfill their part it is on them.... not the owner so drop it.....
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Gunner-- What's up with the T/A?
Be sure to post a picture of you and the wife smiling with the completed project.
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No word as of yet. Left him a message that we might be home a week early depending on how tough a time we'll have getting in and out of Vermont. Road there are dicey at best and we might have to skip it.
But I'll try to get ahold of him today
Gunner
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Hi all,
Should be my last post here, that should make you all happy.
Nuwbe not realy, just started a post for the two faced post by gunner and the uninformed post by others, I know Gunner,his wife, the body guy, the engine builder and his situation. Was just reading the 34 pages of one-sided BS posted here. Gunner knows me naybe not as evilspeed racer but he dose know me. As for time, If you know the business just look it up, anyone worth their sault will tell you a job like that will take 400hrs or more then you have the labor rate for 60 to 100 bucks and hour depends on the shop. And by his own post you can see the true time line, look at the parts flow! You never put paint on a car until you have everything to put it together otherwise the paint may be damaged juls by setting around. Lets see, Paint it by OCT,NOV, DEC, of 2010, but the eng, trans and all the other parts needed to put the car to gether did not start showing up until FEB, APR, MAY. 2011 and so on. And Gunnere did not have a firm color until the End of APR. We all know that a change order to a project will change the time line, And since Gunner was getting the parts on his budget and time frame it should be plain to see to everyone that the complaints are misplaced. I would advise the body shop to sue Gunner for his post here! But the body guy wold not do that as he is not that kind of guy. The body guy has many repeat customers paying 10 grand or mor just to do custm paint on undamaged vehicles, and many others that pay him 20 grand or more to do a car like Gunners, body and baint only! He also gets 3 to 6 grand to do a 100% showcar detail job for cars going to top auctions and shows. So for gunner to slam this body guy like he has in this forum and others is outright wrong. Gunner, was not ready to take on the job to build his dream as you can see from his post, Just look at the time line. If Gunner or the body guy end up in court over this 1 off knockout of a car, I will be there and Gunner would be eating the ill placed words he wrote here over the past year. Enoff said, Gunner, wonderful car you got there, I can't wait to see you driving it! But you do owe the body guy a retraction of all the ill placed words you have posted to the public in this forum. Enjoy your TA it"s "1 BAD BIRD" and will be a show winner!
Heck, I cannot belive nobody blasted me on my spelling and grammer in my post!!
Regards to all,
evilspeedracer
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the nerve of this guy ^ so disrespectful.
awesome car gunner, hope you bet it back soon
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spell check will not help with your issues...it's obvious who you are...and poor spelling and grammar are expected.
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For all you gunner fans one last post with the dope on the :oGreen 79 TA.
I had this in my email file since Oct 8 2010 see the pics.
car has the Fisher T-tops and is a factory red with black std int. No ac and Power nothing car, drum brakes in rear.
See pics of vin and trimtag
Car now has power everthing with AC, color change in and out!
Sey hey Sim ;), Gail >:(, Sam ::), Allan 8),Dennis :-X, Chris 8), and all in Republic MO, I may blow into town when the car is to be deliverd to Gummer to get pics of the hapy and stisfied cuple and ther new babby.
No disrespect, Just the Facts!
Now you know. And this is my last post!
evilspeedracer >:D
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oops, pis file to large.
Trim tag reads
79 06A 2FS87275274
19R 75L 75U W
A51 CC1 B-4311431
and the vin is
2W87K9xxxxxx
:'( >:D
Modified per request to edit VIN
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Gunner awesome car , great color scheme too!
I for one think you have every right in the world to say what is on your mind , and the way you feel about how some one DID or DID not treat you.
Right or wrong it does not matter, this IS a FREE country and brave men a women continue to fight and loose their life day in and day out so we can all enjoy the GOOD LIFE here in the Greatest Country in the World!
Ok getting off the soap box now!
JOSH
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for being a new guy and showing up and one of your first post is ragging on somebody you have a lot of nerve... that is very rude and dissrespectful...
Kinda' thought the same thing...first post and a bit disrespectful to the cars owner...yet complimentary of the car at the same time...??
Also no idea how the labor hours could be calculated by a reader simply by looking at post dates and pictures...
Please read and ponder it is short and very informitive.
Note the price range! Just a guide for you all.
http://taspecialties.com/resto/restore.htm
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what happened to 3 posts ago being your last post? lol
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Where's a moderator when you need one?
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Gunner awesome car , great color scheme too!
I for one think you have every right in the world to say what is on your mind , and the way you feel about how some one DID or DID not treat you.
Right or wrong it does not matter, this IS a FREE country and brave men a women continue to fight and loose their life day in and day out so we can all enjoy the GOOD LIFE here in the Greatest Country in the World!
Ok getting off the soap box now!
JOSH
JOSH tht law is the law, you are incorrect see below.
Civics Library Of The Missouri Bar
Defamation
[[ EDITED AND REMOVED BY ADMIN ]]
From The Missouri Bar
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what happened to 3 posts ago being your last post? lol
just reply to coments and questions like yours directed at me. Plus my pics did not pst so I posted the info they would have shown.
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your posts are uncalled for and irrelevant... Gunner has only posted a few times how he was unhappy with progress... and its easily seen in the thread... a car that by was supposed to be painted by the new years and its now almost a whole year later.... and on the website they have a garuntee on timelines? clearly the shop is doing insurance jobs to keep money flowing, but at the same time they are giving Gunner the runaround telling him this will be done tomorrow and yadda yadda, I have worked in a body shop/ restoration shop, I know that whole procedure.... your hour calculations are way off... especially for such a rust free car..... it never seemed that Gunner was holding up any progress on the body, as he has stated that he isn't a body guy... more mechanical, most guys are.... the fact that you come on this site to bash one person is downright disrespectful, when he clearly has done nothing but state the facts. you can always do work on a car after its been painted, especially without any problems... I have a perfect example of that... body shops now days are too worried about the quick buck than making somebody happy, and it seems like the shop Gunner has his car at is one in the category... He has been extremely laid back on most of this build, with the exception of a few "called for" times he isnt even in the same state.... why you are posting trim tag data and the vin number makes no sense, as well as the whole law board posts you are just wasting space... so I am marking you as a spammer as you seem to keep posting things that are not relevant to the situation...
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Lets get this back on track
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evilspeedracer I don't know who you are and I really don't care either. The fact of the matter is (as you stated yourself) you just know the people involved. So, you may know the people involved, but you have no right to come on here and do the things you did in your posts. You are not the body guy nor the engine builder. If they want to come on and say what they want to, then that is fine, but you personally are not involved n this and you have no right to be. If you know Gunner as you say you do, then go take it up with him in person and not here on my Forum. Not only that, but then you also go after other members on here as well in your follow up posts. I don't care what you say about "the law" or what you post about the "Civics Library Of The Missouri Bar" and so on. The only thing you need to be concerned with is that this is my Forum and according to my "Registration Agreement" it states:
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So I do not care what you think about the Law or anything else. Right now you are here and on very thin Ice. This project has nothing to do with you and you should keep it that way. This is your one and only warning.
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WELLLLLLLLLL now ,,,, how do you like them apples......... ;D
78ta is a very close-knit family, and like to keep it that way. (http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/35362-1/smooning_smiley_mooning_100-100.gif)
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(http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/35362-1/smooning_smiley_mooning_100-100.gif)
Nice, LOL.
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WELLLLLLLLLL now ,,,, how do you like them apples......... ;D
78ta is a very close-knit family, and like to keep it that way. (http://www.78ta.com/gallery2/main.php/d/35362-1/smooning_smiley_mooning_100-100.gif)
I'll second that
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I LOVE THIS SITE!! GOD BLESS 78TA.COM
JOSH
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we are a family!
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Hang in there gunner. We knew there would be haters!
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Not to worry guys. Not to worry. I know who this is and I'll take care of this when I get home. He's a loudmouth friend of my body guy who's once again let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird a**.
Gunner
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Not to worry guys. Not to worry. I know who this is and I'll take care of this when I get home. He's a loudmouth friend of my body guy who's once again let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird a**.
Gunner
Go easy on him Gunner. LOL.
Can't wait to see the finished car.
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Not to worry guys. Not to worry. I know who this is and I'll take care of this when I get home. He's a loudmouth friend of my body guy who's once again let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird a**.
Gunner
LMAO!!!! I may have to borrow this saying one day....
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One thing I forgot to post. Thanks for standing up for me guys. I appreciate it
Gunner
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One thing I forgot to post. Thanks for standing up for me guys. I appreciate it
Gunner
That is what family is for.
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One thing I forgot to post. Thanks for standing up for me guys. I appreciate it
Gunner
Anytime for anyone on this site..... But especially a fellow servicemember
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Anytime for anyone on this site..... But especially a fellow servicemember
Well said, brothers in arms, brothers in cars, brothers for life....
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I knew he had something to do with the body shop in some way.
Get'em Gunner , No don't hate on him he is only human ,
JOSH
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Hey Gunner,
Speaking of "the family"....remember those rims you sold me? Well a little elbow grease and some magic pixie dust and....
BAM!
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll266/deadfish_2008/1979%20TA%20Restoration/mms_picture.jpg)
Thanks for cutting me such a good deal on these...already getting compliments from my freinds and I'm not even done yet.
We'll be keeping these "in the Family" for sure! ;D
Thanks again Buddy,
Rick C.
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BAM IS RIGHT! Man you made those look GOOD! Glad I could hook you up man! They were just laying around gathering dust. I was using one for a spare in my car. They REALLY look good and I'm glad they went to a good home! ;D
Gunner
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LOoks awesome Gunner!!!!!
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Any updates???
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bump????
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Not to worry guys. Not to worry. I know who this is and I'll take care of this when I get home. He's a loudmouth friend of my body guy who's once again let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird a**.
Gunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2dqgUkJOvs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2dqgUkJOvs
LOL!!! I'm hoping this is a joke....
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Any updates about getting it home yet?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2dqgUkJOvs
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That's to funny Doug. Gunner I some how missed the whole battle sorry I missed it but Eroc said it best
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Anytime for anyone on this site..... But especially a fellow servicemember
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Hope things are going well man and we all look forward to seeing the car done. Besides he is just hating cuz he probly drives some beat up POS and only wishes he could have a car like yours.
Josh
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Any news Sim ?
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any updates?
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I hope its done by now.
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OMG, I read this post from start to finish and to get to the end and no word from Gunner made me feel like I am in a soap opera and now I am waiting for the masked murderer to appear and we all find out it was Bo Brady that caused all of the problems!!! lol
Awesome project and Now I am waiting to see the finished car...........TO BE CONTINUED!!!
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Just checking in to see if you ever got your car back or whats going on... haven't heard about it in a while, you got us wondering....
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missed this guy ranting to gunner here. he cannot calculate at all you see 400 hours@$80 per hour is merely 24,000 not 60,000 and who would pay 80 an hour for body work? average going rate is 30-mayyyyyybe 50/hr.
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he cannot calculate at all you see 400 hours@$80 per hour is merely 24,000 not 60,000
400hrs x $80./hr = $32K ;)
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DOH! C'mon Rick.
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Lol everytime I see an update here I hurry up and click I am dying to see this car done lol.
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Any updates? Gunner seems to have vanished!
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Ok seriously... What happened to this T/A and Owner???
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ummm... there is a reason... I talked to him, He is ok... but there is a situation...
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ummm... there is a reason... I talked to him, He is ok... but there is a situation...
Well, I hope everything is ok...
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thanks for the update eroc.
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i would love to see this car finished, this is the one i have had my eye on, any way someone can post a recent pic. hope gunner and car are ok.
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X2^
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Cool...glad to hear he is ok...thanks Evan!!
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Had the chance to chew the fat a little with Mr Gunner today. Just wanted to let everyone know he is doing well and things are on track. He'll probably be surfacing real soon. Stay tuned!
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Had the chance to chew the fat a little with Mr Gunner today. Just wanted to let everyone know he is doing well and things are on track. He'll probably be surfacing real soon. Stay tuned!
Good news indeed. Thanks for sharing Rob.
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Awesome!
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SWEET!!!!!!!!!
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I was hoping to hear from the man himself.... thanks for the false alarms, lol....
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That's good news. Thanks for posting
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/HowitzerBeThyName.jpg)
More to follow soon. Stand by to stand by.
Gunner
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Hahaha perfect picture! Glad to hear good news bud
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Yay, Welcome back.
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Come on with the come on, Sir!!!
Really been looking forward to you being around.
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Standing by.....
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Welcome back!!!!
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Just like the service, hurry up and wait.... LOL...
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give us some green, cash or TA!
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Woohoo. We got a great member back. Welcome back bud.
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OK
Here's the deal. I can't post pics or any info on what happened yet until I clear it with my lawyer.We won, but there is still ongoing stuff. BELIEVE me there is nothing I'd love better than than to let you guys off the hook. It's long convoluted cautionary tale, and I'll let it out of the bag as soon as I can. BELIEVE me I will.
Got a technical question for you cats.
The engine hasn't been broken in yet, AS WELL as not having been started in over a year. It was dropped in the car, bolted up to the tranny, and there it sat. No antifreeze or other fluids have gone through it since it was on that test stand . Other than draining the oil, what would you folks recommend I do to that beast before I fire it up. Should I pull the heads? How about the oil pan? What should I be looking for and inspecting before I crank this thing up? I've never EVER let an engine sit this long, and I DAMN sure didn't do that by choice here, but that's the situation I'm in.
Any input would be appreciated
Gunner
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Pull the distributor and prime the oil system with a drill to build up pressure before you turn the key. That way everything has lubrication as its possible some of the assembly lube has dripped off at this point. Better safe than sorry.
Also if you change the oil, make sure to add some break in additive to the oil so that everything is protected as best as possible during initial break in.
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Question: I replaced the stock igniton with an MSD setup that has a coil. Can I just remove the coil lead and crank the engine to move the oil around the engine?
Gunner
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Question: I replaced the stock igniton with an MSD setup that has a coil. Can I just remove the coil lead and crank the engine to move the oil around the engine?
Gunner
NO! The point is to turn the oil pump ONLY getting oil to the pistons and other moving parts BEFORE they move
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depends, was it ever started before? if so, most of the time you have oil sitting on everything on the inside.... and ls motors, although very different for the average shop/assembler thats how its done.... just crank it, with having oil in the galleys, cause there is no where for it to leak down to, youll be fine...
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depends, was it ever started before? if so, most of the time you have oil sitting on everything on the inside.... and ls motors, although very different for the average shop/assembler thats how its done.... just crank it, with having oil in the galleys, cause there is no where for it to leak down to, youll be fine...
i agree, if its been run on a test stand dont worry, maybe get that stale gas out of the carb
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I assumed from the thread it has never been run so yes that would be different if it has. If not I still would turn the oil pump first. Better safe than sorry IMO. BTW Welcome back!!!
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Thanks boys I appreciate it. Yes it has been run, but only on a test stand, and it was just about a year ago. I can't wait to hear it run again, I'm here to tell you. Just want to be VERY careful about how I go about doing it. The good thing is the guy who built the eingine is just across the tracks from the mechanic who's going to be working on the rest of the car, so I got plenty of horsepower on tap to lean on. The guy who built the engine and did the machine work just posted some pictures of some V12 Lambo heads he just fixed. Said if he couldn't have fixed em it would cost 20K just for ONE head. UNREAL
Gunner
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Well Gunner, It's really good to see you back on the forum. You have one of the best build threads on here.
If you need a priming shaft for your motor, I have one I made out of an old Delco distributor complete with a turned down end tofit a drill. It's yours if you need it...let me know.
Rick C.
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Gunner, If you have a good relatinship with the guy who built the engine, maybe ask him what he suggests. If it has been run already then other than the stale gas I am sure it will be fine
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Hey Deadfish man you wouldn't BELEiVE how glad I am to be back. I'll tell the tale when I'm cleared by the laywers, thats for sure!
Griff of Griff's C.A.M shop built the engine, and not only is he a freind, he's also a neighbor, so I don't think for a second he'd have a problem going and giving it a once over and lighting it off. We'll get all that sussed out a little later, but I'm sure we'll get it lit off and running no problem.
Gunner
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Griff of Griff's C.A.M shop built the engine, and not only is he a freind, he's also a neighbor, so I don't think for a second he'd have a problem going and giving it a once over and lighting it off. We'll get all that sussed out a little later, but I'm sure we'll get it lit off and running no problem.
Gunner
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Sounds like a great plan. I just caught up on your 40 page adventure. I also would love to see some pics of the finished project( or where it's at right now). You have been down a long and for what it sounds like, a bumpy path. I hope it is the dream car you always wanted. I am happy for you that you can see the end of the tunnel and spring is almost here(well, depends on where you live)... Mike
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Griff of Griff's C.A.M shop built the engine, and not only is he a freind, he's also a neighbor, so I don't think for a second he'd have a problem going and giving it a once over and lighting it off. We'll get all that sussed out a little later, but I'm sure we'll get it lit off and running no problem.
Gunner
Sounds like a great plan. I just caught up on your 40 page adventure. I also would love to see some pics of the finished project( or where it's at right now). You have been down a long and for what it sounds like, a bumpy path. I hope it is the dream car you always wanted. I am happy for you that you can see the end of the tunnel and spring is almost here(well, depends on where you live)... Mike
Here's the thing. The car ISN'T finished. It's only about 75% complete.
Gunner
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Gunner I have no doubt you'll get her done and she will look amazing!
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Oh I know I will. It's just a matter of time
Gunner
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Any word back from your lawyer, I am curious what happened?
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Yeah. He told me to just leave it alone actually.........So I guess I'm gonna have to keep this one to myself...........
Gunner
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but pics ?
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YEAH what eroc said PICS?
JOSH
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............yeah.............pics too.............. :(
BUT
She's going into the mechanics shop next week to start getting the wiring, mechanicals, and interior finished. ETA 3 weeks give or take. Will post pics of that when I get some.
Gunner
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IF'n I was to say that the owner of the previous shop should have their bed infested with the fleas of a 1000 camels, would I be close?
**Hint: I've been through (2) horrible shops so I know the feeling all too well.
BTW: Glad you didn't disappear and you're going to get the car on the roads this year. Gotta keep the flock on the road growing afterall!
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Ok here's the battle plan for the car.
Next week she goes to the mechanics shop to finish the electrical work, the mechanical work, and interior. Looking at the end of April timeframe (give or take)
Next
We're taking the car here
www.curryshotrods.com/index.cfm
After the mechanicals are done, Curry's will straighten all the lines up and pull the penstriping off. Then in the fall they're going to strip the car and we go back into paint.
But thats the battle plan
Gunner
Pics will be posted as they become available. But we're moving forward again
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Yikes!!! Down to bare metal a second time? Hang in there!!
If you need an ear to bend, hit me up!!! Been there, done that. I dropped $50k at first shop and got little to show for it in return. I'm still repairing things that the first shop "fixed".
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Yikes!!! Down to bare metal a second time? Hang in there!!
If you need an ear to bend, hit me up!!! Been there, done that. I dropped $50k at first shop and got little to show for it in return. I'm still repairing things that the first shop "fixed".
It's all good. Just looking forward...............we got a battle plan and are continuing to march. It is what it is, and it will be what it will be ;D
Gunner
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yup as the saying goes, "if you think a good shop is expensive, try a bad one"
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Yikes!!! Down to bare metal a second time? Hang in there!!
If you need an ear to bend, hit me up!!! Been there, done that. I dropped $50k at first shop and got little to show for it in return. I'm still repairing things that the first shop "fixed".
Wish we were able to post a listing of these bad shops and the stories so others would know who/what to avoid.
All the best to you Gunner on your restoration restoration.
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agree BONES there are so many bad ones it is rediculous
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OK we have some forward motion yesterday. Here she is going to the shop to get the mechanicals and electrical system squared away.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/c7843202.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/fc8a6fa9.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/69b7f900.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/62f59e7a.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/a6d851ca.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/739cb7cf.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/gunner15a/fe3e7722.jpg)
Not that I'm not glad that she's going to go get squared up and squared away, but I'm getting REAL tired of seeing her NOT moving under her own power. Oh well. What must be done must be done. I'm just glad I got good folks working on it.
Gunner
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I like the green and tan combo. Looks killer Gunner!
Is it just the pics (or my eyes) or is the front sitting a little higher than the rear? Looks like it has a little backwards rake to it?
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It will come together Gunner!!!!
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I like the green and tan combo. Looks killer Gunner!
Is it just the pics (or my eyes) or is the front sitting a little higher than the rear? Looks like it has a little backwards rake to it?
Yeah thats one of the issues thats gonna be adjusted. Front springs are new though so it might be tough from the getgo
Gunner
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Well mine I could crawl under and do a complete oil/filter change without the car on stands/ramps right after resto. After I drove it 100 miles or so, the car dropped about a good inch in the front. So, take it for what its worth, I wouldn't go too drastic lowering the car until it moves under its own power for a bit.
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Even though it's going away again and it's gotta be stripped down again, it sure is nice seeing it. When you do get it finished right this time, it's going to look so awesome. Glad to see things going forward...
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good luck Gunner, it looks sweet btw
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Right now she's at the mechanic shop, assessments still going on. Not going to go into it, but it ain't pretty. Will post when I get pics and hard word.
Gunner
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sounds bad i dont know the whole story behin your t/a but seems like a few bad hands have had a go at you
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sounds bad i dont know the whole story behin your t/a but seems like a few bad hands have had a go at you
Nothing that can't be dealt with, to be sure. Sort of like a flesh wound. Painful but not serious............But annoying nonetheless..............
Gunner
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happy to help with issues if i can
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Right now we're still finding out what they ARE...........
Gunner
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Right now we're still finding out what they ARE...........
Gunner
okay just let me know
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Green body is hosed. Looking for a new body. Finnigan beginagin...........ETA to completetion about two months. More word when I get it.
Gunner
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WHAT? This was the second body...what happened ?
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X2 ????
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Lets just say there were some issues.............But here we go again. The upside is I got LOTS AND LOTS of parts ;D
Gunner
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X3 ? ?
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Gunner, what the hell man
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So whats up with the body? Are the parts all you get to keep? All thats worth keeping? Pretty hard to destroy a Trans am body especially in the condition we've seen yours in. What gives?
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Wow yes how did that happen?????
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I got all the parts etc. Lets just say there was a hidden issue with the body, and leave it at that. But right now I'm fishing for a new bod. Got some spotted and will fill you in if and when I get further word.
Gunner
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I have a 79 esprit complete car on ebay now at 800 complete car...
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I got all the parts etc. Lets just say there was a hidden issue with the body, and leave it at that. But right now I'm fishing for a new bod. Got some spotted and will fill you in if and when I get further word.
Gunner
i think Eroc has one
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oopps did not see that post by Eroc
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I have a 79 esprit complete car on ebay now at 800 complete car...
Thank you. I appreciate it, but I got my new guy looking for something locally. He's pretty well connected and has a good eye for iron, so I think he'll find something pretty soon ;D
Gunner
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This just don't make sense .
Was the uni-body frame jacked up or something?
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Lets not pry too much guys as I think he's kinda limited on what he can put out on the net due to his past encounter. We all know Gunner and know if he says it's bad enough to need a new body then it's bad enough to need a new body.
Good luck brother, we're all hear for ya' if you need help...
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Man, sure do hope you get it worked out soon then just paint and swap parts. Long road you have been on just to get a car done. Good luck.
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Gunner, I felt your pain on the first one....shared a similar experience with my first attempt at a resto....I can't imagine the emotional rollercoaster you're on now...good luck and hope everything works out.
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Well boys, it's like my dad always told me. Nothing good comes easy. If it did, it wouldn't be good. I can hold out one minute longer than this takes.............
Gunner
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Ok update time. My new guy has three bodies spotted. Come monday I'll have one of them and work will start...............again.............
Gunner
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Congrats and God Speed
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Good luck Gunner!!!! Third time is a charm!
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congrats Gunner, whatever the issue is i am sure you will breeze through it just think of all the parts you have now
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Ok update time. We found the next car. Here are the pics
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Ok let me say this FIRST. I ran the VIN number and there is no X there. It looks to me like somebody was trying to clone a TATA and didn't get it done, hence all the TATA interior stuff. ANYWAY as you can see there are a few rust issues, but it's superficial rather than structual, and God knows I got enough sheet metal to fix about 5 cars. The engine in the car run (anybody need a 403 Olds?). But it looks like we're back in buisness. More updates to follow.
Gunner
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Great to hear!!!!!!!! Wish you Better Luck this time.
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TA Looks really nice. However, that Ford is sharp!
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Hum -- hum--- nice t-tops!!!!!!!!!!
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What is the condition of the floor and trunk ?
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ooofff a bit rusty no
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Good luck!
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So I hate to ask but you are going with the same paint and decal choice, right?
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Looks like a good starting point. Good luck bro!
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TA Looks really nice. However, that Ford is sharp!
That's my work truck ;D
Gunner
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Hum -- hum--- nice t-tops!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah they are, aren't they. Gonna look real good with that green paint ;D
Gunner
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What is the condition of the floor and trunk ?
According to my new guy, the trunk and floor pans are intact and sound. There is some rust, yes, but I got a whole shell (tweaked to be sure, but a whole shell nonetheless) that I can cut up for patches. I got the whole front end clip off of Green which I can use too so I'm not real worried about the front fenders either. I SHOULD end up with one good car and a LOT of left over pieces when this gets finished ;D
Gunner
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ooofff a bit rusty no
Yeah but as I said, I got a whole front clip thats just been reworked, and a whole shell that I can get patches off of. Ain't like I don't have any spare parts..........
Gunner
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So I hate to ask but you are going with the same paint and decal choice, right?
Yup.............same green, with camel tan interior, with SE stripes............What can I say..............I'm hard headed ;D
Gunner
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So I hate to ask but you are going with the same paint and decal choice, right?
Yup.............same green, with camel tan interior, with SE stripes............What can I say..............I'm hard headed ;D
Gunner
No way....that is going to be sweet.
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So I hate to ask but you are going with the same paint and decal choice, right?
Yup.............same green, with camel tan interior, with SE stripes............What can I say..............I'm hard headed ;D
Gunner
No way....that is going to be sweet.
Way............I mean I've got all the interior parts............I'm kinda committed ;D
Gunner
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certainly wont see another around town while you are out in yours. If you are driving that tow rig of yours in town and you see a green ta you better follow it. LOL
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certainly wont see another around town while you are out in yours. If you are driving that tow rig of yours in town and you see a green ta you better follow it. LOL
Might mention that to my insurance agent............maybe my rates will go down ;D
Gunner
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UPDATE: All the parts are pulled off of Green except for suspension parts. Green, for all intents and purposes has been stripped. Grey is going on the lift this afternoon for first hardcore visual inspection. Pics to follow if possible.
Gunner
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Fingers crossed --------
Mongo says 3rd time is the charm.
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Wow Gunner... I'm amazed your gonna do it again. It isn't even my car and it makes my head spin. I hope all goes well on this one as I'm sure you do too. Look forward to the pics, Mike
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Green has been dissected. Here's what I got left
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We haven't dug into Grey yet. More to follow
Gunner
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Man those last pic's bring a tear to my eye. You are seriously a patient man. Iceman said exactly what I was thinking. Good for you not letting anything hold you down.
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damn Gunner, a lot of work and hardship there brother
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I'll win in the end guys.............Tolstoy said it best:"The two most powerful warriors on earth are time and patience" ;D
Gunner
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Wow is all I can say.
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Went down and got a good look underneath Grey this afternoon. Actually pretty pleasantly surprised with what I saw. Engine and tranny both leaking, but they're getting replaced with the 400 Pontiac and the TH400 I had prepped for Green anyway, so that's not really an issue. Floor and trunk pans look solid, and the suspension bushing and subframe mounts are in very good shape considering their 30+ years of age. They're dry, and cracked around the edges, but nothing totally destroyed. They'll be replaced, obviously, but whats nice is the car doesn't look like "Ricky Racer" got ahold of it and abused it TOO badly. Of course it had the obligatory set of air shocks on it (THOSE are HISTORY as soon as they come off. Got four brand new Bilstiens waiting for it). This car IS a WS6 car with the 4 wheel disks on it, so we'll be looking at how we are going to work THAT. It's gonna have disks all the way around............the question is HOW. Many options ahead.
The car is nicely optioned. Cruise, tilt, pulse wipers, rear defog, trunk release, power antenna, AC, etc. My mechanics that I have working on it say they'll get all that working and up to speed. The AC system is all there and in good shape, and we checked it and it's STILL holding Freon.............Not bad for a 30+ year old car. On this one we're going to fix the stock AC system (since it's all there and functional on THIS car). I'm interested in seeing what they can do with the cruise control. It would be nice if they can get that up and on it's feet, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Lots of diaphrams, vacuum lines, and other whatnot, and combine that with 30+ years of age..............Hey it would be nice if they CAN, but I wouldn't get too torqued if that one doesn't happen.
We're going to use the good parts off the subframe that came off the green car, but use the subframe off Grey itself, as well as the front end spindles, that way nothing is suspect when it goes back in the car. Control arms, steering linkage, steering box, will be coming off the subframe from Green and go on Grey. Spindles wheel bearing, brakes, hubs and front subframe itself will be coming off Grey, and going back into Grey.
We got the plastic stuff for the interior covered with the Camel Tan stuff we bought for Green, and we can sub in stuff from Grey as appropriate, so we got that covered.
Checked out the rear fenders from the underside, and they're all steel. There ARE some rust issues, but nothing major that can't be dealt with. We have two complete front clips, so we can mix and match as well, as appropriate. We got plenty of patch material.
Body and paint is still up in the air, but that's one of those bridges that'll burn when we get there.
Cooling system is a bit of a question mark, but not much of one. It still has the stock radiator in her, but I got no idea what kind of shape it's in. Not a major concern though, as I have a Champion 3 core Aluminum radiator with electric fans that will take over the cooling duties most probably. Another question mark is the electrical system, which will have to be examined and tested. If the stock one is in good shape we're going to use it, if not we have that Painless harness on standby.
Other than the interior (remember I said that somebody had put a TATA interior in it?) the other non stock item I discovered is that somebody put a guage cluster out of a 78 in the car, as it has a 100mph speedo rather than the 79 obligitory 85mph unit.
Don't know if I'm going to get the PHS documentation on this one...........might just out of curiousity..........but that can wait.
Ok folks, thats the battle plan as she now stands. More to follow.
Gunner
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Sounds like it's in good shape for you overall....this should go much smoother for you :)
it has a 100mph speedo rather than the 79 obligitory 85mph unit.
May well be the original gauges...'79 still had the 100mph speedo as the 85mph started in '80
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Hows things coming along Sim ?
Long time no speak.. still working your fingers to the bone ?
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Hows things coming along Sim ?
Long time no speak.. still working your fingers to the bone ?
Yeah still hooked up out here in the oilfield...................
Ok English is right. Haven't posted much here lately, and I'm REALLY behind. Sorry about that folks. Lets take it from the top, chronologically.
One thing I did do. I ditched the carb on the engine for a F.A.S.T fuel injection system. From the reviews I've read, it got better mileage than a rochester carb on a smallblock 65 Chevelle in highway driving, So I jumped on that.I don't expect dramatic increases in fuel mileage by any means, but if it makes things easier, and helps feed the engine a little cheaper, hey I'm all about it. Atlantic Speed has the master kit, and if you're thinking about taking the plunge, I'd go there. It's about 300 bucks less than what the manufacturer wants (how they do THAT I don't know), but I got it all up for 1800 bucks. The master kit itself is really a better deal even though it costs more than the basic kit (300 bucs actually. Odd), but the basic kit does NOT include the fuel pressure regulator, high pressure fuel lines, the electric fuel pump (which is a 300 dollar item in itself). Here are the pics
OK this is how the kit was delivered. Three boxes.
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This is the wiring harness thats included in the basic kit. It's the wiring harness for the the TBI, the handheld controller, and the computer controller for the basic system
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This is the hand controller that you use to caliberate and manipulate the system. As I understand it you do NOT have to keep this hand controller plugged in AFTER YOU GET THE SYSTEM CALIBERATED. Once you get the system caliberated, you can unhook the hand controller and it will learn your engine itself. You can leave it plugged in, and adjust some parameters on the fly (it's recommended that you have the person ridiing shotgun with you doing that), but there are some parameters that you can adjust yourself, if you so choose
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This is the computer itself. It's about the size of a deck of cards. According to the documentation you can install this anyplace you want to either under the hood or inside the cab in a hidden place
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This is the thottle body itself. We've kind of eyeballed (haven't pulled it out of the plastic yet) but we THINK it WILL fit under a stock TA breather. Don't quote me on that part yet though.
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Now this is what came in one of the auxillary boxes. This is the fuel pump, wiring harness, and fuel pressure regulator for the system. These are some of the added extras that make picking up the master system worth the extra 300 bucks
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In this box is the fuel lines and connectors for the system. As I said it's easy to see for the extra 300 bucks you get a lot of value for money there
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IF any of you ARE thinking about taking the plunge, the installation instructions are available for download from F.A.S.T website in PDF format. That way you can get some kind of idea what you're getting into BEFORE you get into it. The one thing that you do have to do is install a sensor behind your exhaust manifold. But it comes with the sensor, and all the mounting hardware, but it DOES have to be installed or the system WILL NOT WORK. Not a big deal though as finding regular leaded gasoline is impossible anymore anyway.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
They are stripping Grey down and getting ready to blast the body. I have some pics I shot before I went out on this job, but nothing that isn't at least 10 days old. Old Grey is actually in pretty good shape, but there is a little more rot in some unexpected places, but nothing that can't be fixed.
This is the drivers side floorpan. This is the ONLY rust on the floor. The rest of the floorpan still has stock paint on it.
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Here is the rest of the floorpan
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Now this is something we WEREN'T expecting. A little more rust on the firewall and on the roof pillars. From what I've been told, nothing that can't be fixed, but as we said, something that we weren't exactly expecting.
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The thing about it is the body of the car looks like it's been Ziebarted by the deal when it was sold, as it has plastic plugs in the door jambs down by the rockers and in the back of the door jamb itself. I think the body itself is in REALLY good shape, it's just some minor stuff that needs to be fixed up. I guess what they say about the fit and finish of the 79's being less than stellar. It has the stock windshield in it, and it doesn't look like it ever sealed against the firewall, as you can see the black strip of sealing material at the bottom of the firewall, and you can see how it just didn't seal against the glass and water got up underneath it.
But that's where we stand folks, at least 9 days ago. There has been some progress made, but the missus hasn't shot me any pics so I'm not sure of the status yet. I'm sorry guys that I haven't been keeping this up as I should have. The last days off I had were..........well lets just say..........wild.......and things out here on this job have just now settled down. Sorry I've been absent guys.
Gunner
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Good to see that you are making some progress here. You are getting all of the best parts for the car. Nice work.
Ryan
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Hey Gunner, i have the same on my SE looks like some sort of acid spil on the cowl right on the cwl tag of course so my Y84 cowl tag is rotted about 1/2" and just at the 4 of y84
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Sorry to hear you had to get another shell my friend. But it is good to see the project moving again.
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Sorry to hear you had to get another shell my friend. But it is good to see the project moving again.
Acutally I got a whole new CAR. It was all there. We're just pulling the old stuff off of Grey and we're gonna put the new stuff we ordered in it after we get it up in shape. I'm here to tell you I'm gonna have a YARD SALE when this is all over with.
Gunner
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Lookin good Gunner! THe FI system is cool.
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The tear down is both exciting and heartbreaking at the same time... For some reason I find it fun... All the stuff tucked back in the pockets and such... Hope all will work out for the better.. Mike
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Lookin good Gunner! THe FI system is cool.
Well I HOPE it is...........dunno yet.........we'll see. I THINK it will be awesome, but looks can be deceiving ;D
Gunner
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The tear down is both exciting and heartbreaking at the same time... For some reason I find it fun... All the stuff tucked back in the pockets and such... Hope all will work out for the better.. Mike
Well the thing is, this is the third time in this build. The first time was when we tore down White when we thought it was saveable. The second time was when we pulled Green over here after we found the body was cashed out. I HOPE...........HOPE...........THIS is the final time we have to do this, and this is the end of the teardowns. I think it will be actually.
One nice thing about Grey (the car we're building now). It looks like it was Ziebart-ed from the dealer so I think it's in pretty good shape overall. When they pulled it apart they found a 2000 quarter and a 2006 penny, so I think the car hasn't been off the road for that long. I know the 403 in it RUNS (the guys I have working on the car started it up and it ran as long as it had gas), but other than that I don't know what kind of shape the engine is in (which doesn't really make that much difference either as I have a nice fresh rebuilt 400 Pontiac thats going back in it). But I think we have a much better starting point this time than we've had before.
Gunner