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Trans Am Photos => Restoration Projects => Topic started by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 02:18:57 AM

Title: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 02:18:57 AM
As some of you may remember from my intro. post I recently picked up a '74 T/A for my personal project, and let's just say the wife wasn't as impressed as I had hoped. Well, she has finally started to see the light and has been slowly falling in love with the 2nd gens. At first I was just thinking of it as "Sweet!!! Green light for new toys!" But it has recently gone much further. After my constant pointing out of cars while driving and the various catalogs/magazine paraphernalia laying around the house she has begun spotting birds and naming the years before I see them. She recently stated that she LOVES the '79-'81 style and wanted one for herself. Hmm....did I have a problem with getting permission to buy another project?  You guessed it....no, no I did not.

For three years I have seen this car sitting at a house down the road out in the weeds. I have stopped multiple times and could never catch anyone home. I was driving by on the fourth and seen a fella out in the yard, pulled a quick u-ey and whipped in there. He said he bought it four years ago to "restore". I use that word lightly as he thought it was a '78 and was awful proud of the original "honeycomb" wheels. He started to take the interior apart and fell through the floor pan in front of the rear passenger seat. At that point he said "F-it!!" and walked away. I took a look and asked what he wanted for it. Said he wanted what he paid for it to get his money back so the lowest he could go was $200. I stood there stroking my chin like I was really contemplating it, did a couple of hmm's, while inside I was doing an Irish jig and considering wetting myself. Needless to say I hit the bank on Tuesday and drug her home. This is the first I have had time to get pictures.

She's rough, but that just makes it sweeter when ya get done. It was originally a 403 olds car, but he told me that it had been replaced before he got it with a 350. After doing some research I believe it is a late 80's 307 olds with the 7A heads. So that is going bye bye. The wife said she wants somewhat decent mileage so I will likely build up a Pontiac 350 I have sitting here out of a '74 Ventura, then stick a 4-speed auto behind it. Not really worried about being original with this one. She has pretty much made up her mind that it will be black, but she doesn't care for the gold decals and wants the burgundy decals on it. Anyone have any pictures of a black bird with burgundy decals? Anyways enough of my blah blah story. If I figured out the photobucket thing right, here are a few pictures I snapped.


(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230109.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230110.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230111.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230112.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230113.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230114.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230115.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230116.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230117.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230118.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230119.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230120.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230121.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230122.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230123.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230124.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230125.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230126.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230127.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230128.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/shanehall/1979%20Trans%20Am/P4230129.jpg)

Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 02:20:16 AM
Hmm....not really sure why they turned out so small. Anyone know how to fix that?
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: 89flyboy on July 14, 2011, 04:32:17 AM
Looks like a great project car. I look forward to seeing this come together. When you upload your photo to photobucket run your mouse over the pic but dont click it. There will be several links that appear below the picture click on the one that says image code and it will copy it. Then just paste the image code into the reply box and it should come out a full pic. I hope this helps. Good luck and keep us posted.
Josh
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: 4speed76 on July 14, 2011, 09:25:45 AM
Good luck with the project, I will be watching this one as it comes together.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: ponchonutty on July 14, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
Good luck!  Looks like you will have your hands full but isn't that the point?  I haven't seen a black car with burgandy decals.  I myself would go with the silver bird if she doesn't like the gold ones.  Also, there are 2 different gold ones too
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 01:32:42 PM
Looks like a great project car. I look forward to seeing this come together. When you upload your photo to photobucket run your mouse over the pic but dont click it. There will be several links that appear below the picture click on the one that says image code and it will copy it. Then just paste the image code into the reply box and it should come out a full pic. I hope this helps. Good luck and keep us posted.
Josh

I think that was basically what I did. I just uploaded them then copied the IMG code without clicking the pic. Maybe there is something I need to click when I put them into p-bucket. I'll play around later and see if I can either fix it or screw something up. HA!!! Thanks for the help though.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 01:38:07 PM
Good luck!  Looks like you will have your hands full but isn't that the point?  I haven't seen a black car with burgandy decals.  I myself would go with the silver bird if she doesn't like the gold ones.  Also, there are 2 different gold ones too

Yup, that makes it more interesting that's for sure.

She really dislikes any of the gold or silvers. I might be able to talk her into blue decals but she doesn't care for the amount of white in the 5 color bird. Might be able to go with the older blue bird though.  I'll just have to see how much sway I actually have in the final decision. Since this is the one that ultimately gives me the green light to build mine I better do what she wants. HAHA!!

I appreciate all the comments guys!! Can't wait for winter when I have time to hit the cars hard and heavy.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: brian c on July 14, 2011, 04:13:20 PM
When you go to upload your photos in Photobucket, click the link for "Customize your upload options". Select something other than 100x75 (what your current settings are more than likely set to). 800x600 is reasonable although mine's set to 1024x768.

Click Save so Photobucket knows what to use next time. Now re-upload your photos - you should be good to go after that.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 14, 2011, 04:57:27 PM
AHA!!! Thanks Brian C, I appreciate it!!!
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: CT Bird Fan on July 14, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
Another T/A saved, always nice to see! I look forward to your progress!!
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: Grand73Am on July 15, 2011, 12:41:42 AM
Black with the red/orange bird would look really good. Here's a page with one on it, along with many other 79 color combos. The black with red/orange is toward the bottom of the page: http://tran-zam.com/1979TAGallery.htm
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: bobg on July 15, 2011, 07:10:44 AM
Great score at an outstanding price.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: UnderDog403 on July 15, 2011, 09:05:39 AM
Nice find for the money!!!! Its also a factory black car too, very cool!!
I noticed the pinstriping and it lookes like the steering wheel rim is faded gold..
Y84 possibly? Didn't see it stamped on the cowl tag though..
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: UnderDog403 on July 15, 2011, 09:06:25 AM
I know youre not keeping it original, but it would  still cool to know
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 15, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
I was wondering about that myself. Couldn't find the build sheet under any of the seats, but the fronts I do believe are not the original seats. When I start tearing into I will see if it is on top of the gas tank where I found the one on my '79 in high school. Either way I think I am gonna order the PHS soon just to know for sure. If it actually is a Y84, the wife may get vetoed on this one, restore it, and find her another '79. 
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: brian c on July 15, 2011, 03:43:22 PM
No problemo.

Looks like your car came with the ever popular "Fred Flintstone" floorboards. They're awfully popular these days - even my Y88 had them. ;)

I'd run PHS on the car to see if its a SE car. It has the markings of one from what I can see BUT those are easy changes for any owner to "fake/clone/tribute/whatnot" these days.

With an engine for $200? Darn and I thought I did good on a base firebird with no drivetrain for $400 but its mostly rust free - or at least in the important areas it is! We won't discuss the A pillars or the cowl which both need to be addressed.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: dewcrazzy on July 15, 2011, 04:00:46 PM
Black with the red/orange bird would look really good. Here's a page with one on it, along with many other 79 color combos. The black with red/orange is toward the bottom of the page: http://tran-zam.com/1979TAGallery.htm
nice page with great info.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: buzzkiller on July 15, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
Another one saved. Well done sir!
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: IdahoDirtFarmer on July 16, 2011, 05:03:38 AM
No problemo.

Looks like your car came with the ever popular "Fred Flintstone" floorboards. They're awfully popular these days - even my Y88 had them. ;)

I'd run PHS on the car to see if its a SE car. It has the markings of one from what I can see BUT those are easy changes for any owner to "fake/clone/tribute/whatnot" these days.

With an engine for $200? Darn and I thought I did good on a base firebird with no drivetrain for $400 but its mostly rust free - or at least in the important areas it is! We won't discuss the A pillars or the cowl which both need to be addressed.

I think Ol' Freddy must have pulled Employee of the month a few times at the factory in the 70's.  ;D

About seven years ago that was kind of the running price on birds around here. It was rare to find one not restored for over about a grand. Now a car like this usually runs about $1500-$2000. There is a base model right now on Craigslist with decent paint and the guy is firm on $10,000.   http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/2441428761.html      Very very slim chance he will get that in these parts. There is also a basket case '79 T/A with a 454 non running in it for $2,000 firm. But every now and then ya see one for a decent price. Those ya try to jump on before someone else does. There was a '79 T/A a couple months ago on craigslist that ran for $800. Never saw a picture but I called about thirty minutes after it was posted and it was sold already. Currently there is a '79 Formula with the interior removed but there, one small patch of rust in a front fender and an old 428 in it for $600. If I have the time I might try and go look at it but it is about 5 hours away. Things are kind of all over the place in this area.
Title: Re: '79 T/A project
Post by: Frode_skj on July 16, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Looks like a nice project:) will be nice to see another one getting saved :)