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Offline Gold78Spc

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Well I have decided it was time to redo my engine compartment so here we go!!!!

Would like some input on some things:

I took lots of photos but any other suggestions on marking vacuum lines so I can put em all back in the right place?

Does the intake manifold get painted the same as the engine color?

Since I got it all tore apart what else would you fix/replace if it were your car.

Heres sort of a before shot.  Will take and post some shots of my progress.  Hope to have this project complete in less than a month!!

« Last Edit: May 04, 2007, 08:38:55 AM by Gold78Spc »
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 04:53:02 PM »
Excellent project.  I've been thinking about doing the same but just don't have time right now.  I'll be watching your progress very closely so make sure you take lots of pics and post them as you go.  I may not post much as I'll be learning by watching ;)
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2007, 07:36:54 PM »
Does the intake manifold get painted the same as the engine color?

If you are shooting for a "factory correct" resto the answer is YES.  Engines were supplied already assembled, and they were painted with only the accessories missing, which were added afterwards before assembly into the vehicle.

I understand that the colors were changed to reflect changes in the emissions ratings/calibrations, so cars built after the date new environmental regs kicked in wouldn't get old (hence no longer compliant) engines -- the factory could tell at a glance if they were set up correctly or not by the color.

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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 11:57:50 PM »
A good way to label vac. lines and wires is to use tape and put numbers and letters on it.  For example: Mark a vac. hose with "A" and mark the spot where it plugs in with the same.  If you use letters for vac. lines, use numbers for wiring.  If you somehow get past "Z" continue with "AA", "BB", "CC", etc.  I learned this from a Master Auto Body Tech.  Never had a problem since.
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 12:51:43 AM »
A good way to label vac. lines and wires is to use tape and put numbers and letters on it.  For example: Mark a vac. hose with "A" and mark the spot where it plugs in with the same.  If you use letters for vac. lines, use numbers for wiring.  If you somehow get past "Z" continue with "AA", "BB", "CC", etc.  I learned this from a Master Auto Body Tech.  Never had a problem since.

or just take pictures and yank everything out like me
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 09:16:19 AM »
Yeah eroc I usually do it your way.  Then I am kicking myself trying to remember how to put it back together.  I like the tape idea.
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 11:04:06 AM »
A good way to label vac. lines and wires is to use tape and put numbers and letters on it.  For example: Mark a vac. hose with "A" and mark the spot where it plugs in with the same.  If you use letters for vac. lines, use numbers for wiring.  If you somehow get past "Z" continue with "AA", "BB", "CC", etc.  I learned this from a Master Auto Body Tech.  Never had a problem since.

A few years ago when I had to pull the engine out of my 95 Z71 I bought a Dymo label gun like you get at retail stores. It was very handy. But a sharpy and masking tape would be much cheaper. Those guns are any wheres from 20-40 bucks depending on which you get.

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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 05:50:04 AM »
Man!! I should take the fenders off everytime I work on the car !!! The amout of room I have to work is amazing !!  I can hardly wait to change the spark plugs (can you believe they are AC Sparkplugs??? Do they even make those anymore ??)
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 03:11:13 PM »
hahaha yes they still make them....but be aware they recently changed the "design" so they cost 4.99 for some plugs!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 11:15:07 AM »
Looks good..you're a brave one to tear into what looks like an already beautiful car! Keep us updated with pix!!
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 11:44:57 AM »
Looks good..you're a brave one to tear into what looks like an already beautiful car! Keep us updated with pix!!

I agree with Jeff. I wish my car looked as good as your's did before you started tearing it down.
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 05:00:33 PM »
I did the heater core last winter.  It started leaking towards the end of summer.  I am going to have to put a shout out for a part though.  I don't know what its called yet cuz I cant find my handy dandy parts manual I bought from El Conquistador but in the meanwhile I will tell you what it is.  It mounts on the intake on the left side of the carb.  It has a metal line coming out of the carb, through the intake, and back up and into the carb again.  On mine (and my spare engine) the metal line is rusted in two at the intake !!

Did find a little rot on the core support also below the battery tray.  Not sure what I am gonna do about that yet.  Weld in a new piece if I can or I guess pay a zillion bucks for another if I cant find one.

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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2007, 05:44:59 AM »
Appreciate it Hammer. 
Will look into it.  Anyone have one of these stove choke tingy ma jiggies in case I go that way?
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2007, 10:41:22 AM »
I DO!!! I DO!!!! ME ME ME hahahaha
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Re: Tearin a perfectly good Special Edition apart !!
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 01:29:25 PM »
Brian, I wantto know when we are going to rebuild the Rock and Roll big wheel. Now thats a real project.  ;)
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