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Offline SalNat

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NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« on: October 15, 2012, 07:48:09 AM »
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »
Out of their freakin minds!! 
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 12:37:21 PM »
I believe those are for the vin plate and they are of an odd size.  I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 04:06:57 PM »
its not the size its the shape.  those are called "rosette" rivets & as mentioned are used only for vin tags.  from my understanding you can not buy them new, they are specific to gm vin tags & not available to the general public.

at least thats what i heard many years ago, & i have never seen them for sale anywhere.  that would explain the price.
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 04:24:53 PM »
its not the size its the shape.  those are called "rosette" rivets & as mentioned are used only for vin tags.  from my understanding you can not buy them new, they are specific to gm vin tags & not available to the general public.

at least thats what i heard many years ago, & i have never seen them for sale anywhere.  that would explain the price.

I went and checked my vin tag and I guess you are right ... I just can't believe that this shape can't be found at all  :-\

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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 09:55:13 PM »
Hey, do you have a custom bird????  You only have one rivet :)
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 09:33:32 AM »
Hey, do you have a custom bird????  You only have one rivet :)

So are you suggesting that I should get these rivets to make it right!!!

I really don't know why I have one only  ??? but I guess it makes my bird a rare one   ::) ... Off to eBay to list a rare one of kind bird  ;D ... lol
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 01:07:39 PM »
Hey, do you have a custom bird????  You only have one rivet :)

So are you suggesting that I should get these rivets to make it right!!!

I really don't know why I have one only  ??? but I guess it makes my bird a rare one   ::) ... Off to eBay to list a rare one of kind bird  ;D ... lol

Yup, I would list it!  Gotta be work $250000 or something near there.  I better bondo mine up too ;)
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 03:47:40 PM »
Well if you have a lot of time and patience you could take a steel rivet and a small round file and make some. But I think that if I really needed them I'd just spend the 40.00. If your having to replace that part of your dash because of rust issues and needed to remove the vin and put it back after your repair they would be well worth the 40.00 to have it looking original.

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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 01:29:12 PM »
dont mean to raise any issues nor am i judging your car.... but that vin area looks kinda funny.  there should be a rivet on each side as far as i recall.  on the right side it looks like its been tampered with.  its not a perect rectangle corner like the left side... almost looks like some putty was put in there & not sanded & shaped right. 

previous owners can do some pretty shady things with cars these days.  it just doesnt look right to me. 
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 02:35:15 PM »
I never paid so much attention to that area at all ... I know it doesn't look right but now you guys get me worried ... Can anyone post a similar photo of the same area please just to see how it suppose to look like.

and you can judge and raise any issues you like ... After all that's what we are all here for ... TA talks and discussions and of course exchanging experiences ... So any comments you guys make are more than welcome by me  :)
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 04:12:02 PM »
i can get pics of my 81 for you if you want but there should be 2 rivets, one on the right just like the left side.  like i said i didnt mean to open a can of worms with your car, just wanted to be sure my comments didnt read wrong.   ;)

some cars have repairs in that area due to rust or damage, so it could be perfectly legit.  they just didnt try to hard to put the other rivet in or sand the inside of the corners.
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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 04:32:43 PM »
heres the best i could get with the car inside a shed, under a cover & on a rainy day.  the angle is upside down, using a led flashlight, through the windshield!   but you get the idea.  should be 2 equally spaced rivets & a perfect stamped rectangle opening. 

im sure someone else can post a better pic.


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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 05:41:35 PM »
It's probably there just someone puttied over it during a repair and didn't sand it right.

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Re: NOS GM RIVETS!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 08:25:26 PM »
I never paid so much attention to that area at all ... I know it doesn't look right but now you guys get me worried ... Can anyone post a similar photo of the same area please just to see how it suppose to look like.

and you can judge and raise any issues you like ... After all that's what we are all here for ... TA talks and discussions and of course exchanging experiences ... So any comments you guys make are more than welcome by me  :)

I wouldn't worry about it too much.  My guess is that the previous owner just bondo'd over the rusty corners of the dash since they sometimes rust.  You can see the end that's in question looks real wavy and it's perfectly squared off.  I bet if you get to sanding a bunch in that corner the other rivit will show up.
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