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Title: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: pwrcat4000 on May 11, 2021, 06:09:57 PM
2    PJ  G322 8?  1
It is on a 1979 Trans Am (my sons) he wants to decode it for his youtube channel
I think this is a
2PJ = 2.41 standard  (open)
http://www.teufert.net/pontiac/rears.htm
The counting method seems to confirm this 2 wheel rotations is about 2 1/2 on the pinion
The axle "acts like limited slip" spinning one wheel does not seem to effect the other wheel
I have not pulled the diff cover yet

322 made November 18th 1978 Saturday? or  November 18th 1979 Sunday?  making axles on a sunday????
on Day shift = 1
I have no idea what the 8 symbol means  1978? is it some other stamp
unsure about the G
G = Detroit Gear & Axle   
G=Chevrolet Gear and Axle
G = Detroit G&A Positraction Carrier



Thanks any help is appreciated
 
(https://i.imgur.com/51ED11Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: pwrcat4000 on May 12, 2021, 02:39:34 AM
Build sheet is from under the gas tank and hard to read but you can defiantly see
GU2 2 second character (looks like a 1) 3rd is unreadable
so this may be PU - 2.73 Rear Gear (Posi)
next line on build sheet is hard to read but you can defiantly see POS(unreadable)XLE
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Wallington on May 12, 2021, 04:01:43 AM
Looks like you pretty much have it covered. Is it actually a TA? Or original rear axle?
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: RENOVATIONS on May 12, 2021, 07:40:01 AM
Does this help further?
https://www.78ta.com/Pages/etrcodes.htm
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: pwrcat4000 on May 12, 2021, 07:19:46 PM
Thanks for responding Aus78Formula and RENOVATIONS
Ok so this is weird Build sheet is from under the gas tank and hard to read but you can defiantly see 2PU at the top
Down in the RPO codes
GU2 2 second character (looks like a 1) 3rd is unreadable
so this may be PU - 2.73 Rear Gear (Posi)
next line on build sheet is hard to read but you can defiantly see POS(unreadable)XLE 
I guess I will have to pull the diff cover to be sure. "Probably needs changed anyway"  Is something I find my self saying a lot! LOL
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: pwrcat4000 on May 17, 2021, 11:20:18 AM
confirmed 2PJ = 2.41 standard  (open)
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Wallington on May 17, 2021, 07:18:51 PM
Date and Open confirm rear swap in a 79 TA. Look around under the rear fenders for any panel repairs since swapping to an open 2.41 wouldn't likely be by choice, rather just one they had or at short notice perhaps.

The unreadable bit is likely something similar to Posi-traction Rear axle.
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: pwrcat4000 on June 01, 2021, 06:53:05 PM
Date and Open confirm rear swap in a 79 TA. Look around under the rear fenders for any panel repairs since swapping to an open 2.41 wouldn't likely be by choice, rather just one they had or at short notice perhaps.

The unreadable bit is likely something similar to Posi-traction Rear axle.
Well you buy something out of a junk yard maybe someone took the original and swapped this one in
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Wallington on June 01, 2021, 10:26:31 PM
The date seems to work, have you checked if in the internals match? Perhaps the J/U is a mis-stamp. And based on the fact that in '79 all TA's still came with Posi diff, others will confirm if that was no longer the case like in the final years.

The buildsheet says 2PU rear ratio up in box 11 for Axle, that would be the preferred option and make it correct. The stamp does look like a J, under the red, rather than an angled-U strike.
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Maxthe222 on June 02, 2021, 10:53:48 AM
How do you know if it is a 2.41 just by looking at the code etched into the gears?
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Wallington on June 04, 2021, 12:52:11 AM
It has GM part number, date and ratio.

Here's a 2:41 Posi I had.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51224274808_52a13c1388_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m3vNgS)Diff 241 Posi 17 41 1252065 (https://flic.kr/p/2m3vNgS) by Aus78Formula (https://www.flickr.com/photos/53057445@N08/), on Flickr

Part number GM #1252065 for those who want to look up or google. Ratio 17:41 which is 2.41.... and date code 2/79.
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Maxthe222 on June 04, 2021, 09:57:37 AM
It has GM part number, date and ratio.


Part number GM #1252065 for those who want to look up or google. Ratio 17:41 which is 2.41.... and date code 2/79.

Ok, excellent, I have a bunch of 10-bolt centres lying around and I wanted to figure out where they came from
Title: Re: Trying to make sense of these Axle tube markings
Post by: Wallington on September 08, 2021, 10:39:31 PM
A bunch? Way too much time on US car forums, next you'll be saying they Pop.